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How far would you go to be a mother? Dr. Phil's guests are women whose biological clocks are ticking time bombs, and they're willing to risk almost everything to become pregnant. When Tonya and Keith got married, they agreed not to have children. Six years later, Tonya has had a change of heart and is now obsessed with having a baby, but Keith is totally opposed to the idea. Can they reach a compromise without resenting each other, or will the baby talk end their wedded bliss? Next, Eric and Michelle have been married over a year and have been unable to conceive. Eric refuses to spend another dime on fertility treatments because he says there's no guarantee she's going to get pregnant. Michelle won't take no for an answer and has even considered going behind her husband's back and charging fertility treatments on her credit card. After talking with Dr. Phil, will Eric decide to invest in the procedures, or will Michelle put her baby dreams on hold? And, Dr. Phil fitness expert, Robert Reames, and his wife, Arminae, share their painful five-year struggle to have another baby. Talk about the show here.

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December 6, 2007, 11:13 am PST

Desperate Moms..

To the women out there that have been trying to conveice and still aren't having luck - I pray for you. I can only imagine how frustrating and upsetting it must be.

 

To the children, ALL OVER THE WORLD, who want nothing more than to be part of a loving and caring family - I pray for you. I can't even begin to imagine the pain and suffering.. the sorts of things these children must be feeling and thinking. It really is heartbreaking.

 

I do feel for these women who have been trying to conceive for so long and still continue to be unsuccessful, but my heart really breaks for the kids who don't even have parents to begin with. More and more children are brought into this world while more and more children go unnoticed. I'm not saying that women should turn to adoption if they cannot conceive...

 

.. but let's be honest about something - I think it would be safe to say that most women don't adopt because they want a child that is of their own flesh and blood. A child THEY conceived, THEY gave birth to. It's not that they don't feel for the children who don't have parents or that they're selfish and don't care.. I just believe that deep down, in their hearts, they truly want nothing more than a child of their own flesh and blood.

 

 

 
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December 6, 2007, 11:15 am PST

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whos the selfish one? it sounds to me like you couldnt compromise with anyone anyways.  marriage is a two way street.  dr phil is soooo right and you are the wrong one here.  im so glad my husband is not as selfish as this man.  whats more important ?  money or a baby.

Okay, here's a thought,

Should SELFISH people have children ? NO WAY, there are already too many parents who have had children as status symbols, "See I have it all now ".

You can't be selfish and be an effective parent, the baby dosen't really care if it's Superbowl Sunday if they need your  attention, they need it NOW and if a person isn't willing to give up the game to tend to the child, then they should NOT HAVE KIDS.

There's NOTHING wrong (actually I wish more young couples would do this) with getting your marriage on track and your finances (you don't need to be rich, but its good to have some saved)in order BEFORE having children, find out who your spouse is first, find out who you are FIRST.

Okay there are many stories out there about how "he fell in love with the Baby after it was born ", I think a better balance would be show how many DON'T fall in love, DON'T give up their own persuits, show the people who RESENT having parenthood FORCED onto them, or giving in because their parents wanted Grandchildre, or he gives in just to make his Wife happy and there are women who give in just to make their Husband happy, these are the most SELFISH reasons I've ever heard to have children, and think about this,

What if YOU were the child being brought up by the parent who made it clear through their actions, if not words, that they didn't want you in the first place ?  Aren't there enough children living with that ?

 
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December 6, 2007, 11:22 am PST

Be honest with your spouse. Keep your word

Sad to say, but I have known a handful of women who promised their HUSBANDS-TO-BE that they didn't want kids, all the while planning to convince them to have children once the marriage had taken place. One of my sister's friend even purposely got pregnant (lied about the pill) TWICE (one would think he wouldn't have trusted her after the first lie). Now she's complaining that the father spends little time with his children. Well, daaaaaaa....he never wanted children and was honest about that before the marriage!

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The woman needs to honor her word to her husband; if they agreed on no kids before they married, than she need to find happiness elsewhere when it comes to babies...be an aunt, a babysitter, a Godmother, work at a daycare, etc. Her vow to her husband comes first since he trusted her word before their marriage. Marraige is about TRUST and HONESTY. If he comes around to having a child (on his own) than that's great. Otherwise, honor your word and commmittment to him.

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As for debt, NO DEBT is acceptable but one. I don't have credit cards (they are all paid off). The one debt we DID have that was acceptable was infertitility treatment debt., providing BOTH HUSBAND AND WIFE WANT CHILDREN.  The procedure worked with child number one, but didn't with child number two (we got pregnant the natural way with #2 after spending thousands on failed infertility treatments).

 

Good luck to all infertile couples; it's a horrible feeling not knowing if one can ever conceive and a horrible feeling knowing one has to go in debt to adopt ($25,000). God bless them all. Trust in Him; he knows how your life is supposed to be.....

 
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December 6, 2007, 11:50 am PST

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Sad to say, but I have known a handful of women who promised their HUSBANDS-TO-BE that they didn't want kids, all the while planning to convince them to have children once the marriage had taken place. One of my sister's friend even purposely got pregnant (lied about the pill) TWICE (one would think he wouldn't have trusted her after the first lie). Now she's complaining that the father spends little time with his children. Well, daaaaaaa....he never wanted children and was honest about that before the marriage!

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The woman needs to honor her word to her husband; if they agreed on no kids before they married, than she need to find happiness elsewhere when it comes to babies...be an aunt, a babysitter, a Godmother, work at a daycare, etc. Her vow to her husband comes first since he trusted her word before their marriage. Marraige is about TRUST and HONESTY. If he comes around to having a child (on his own) than that's great. Otherwise, honor your word and commmittment to him.

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As for debt, NO DEBT is acceptable but one. I don't have credit cards (they are all paid off). The one debt we DID have that was acceptable was infertitility treatment debt., providing BOTH HUSBAND AND WIFE WANT CHILDREN.  The procedure worked with child number one, but didn't with child number two (we got pregnant the natural way with #2 after spending thousands on failed infertility treatments).

 

Good luck to all infertile couples; it's a horrible feeling not knowing if one can ever conceive and a horrible feeling knowing one has to go in debt to adopt ($25,000). God bless them all. Trust in Him; he knows how your life is supposed to be.....

I also had a friend that marrried a man who had been abused by his father.  He told her before the wedding that he did not think he would be a good father and did not want children.  She agreed.  After about 5 years she would cry and beg him to have a baby.  Then she would accept it only to feel the loss of her decision later.  She would go through a depression and come out of it again.  A real roller coaster for her.  He never wavered in his decision. 

 

Men who say that they don't want kids aren't kidding.  If they say it and you don't agree then don't marry that man.  He is NOT your soulmate if he does not share your dreams.

 

As for my friend and her husband- they have been married for 25 years.  They have managed to find fulfillment in each other and their marriage works. 

 
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December 6, 2007, 12:06 pm PST

I understand what they feel like

My wife and I went through many of the same issues while trying to have a baby. We went through 5 years of failed ferility procedures.  The emotional ups and downs really wore on me and my wife was detremined to have a baby.  We attempted a final IVF cycle with a donor egg and it failed and that was devestating to both of us. Before we started this cycle I had told her that no matter what happened I could'nt do this anymore. So when it was over she wanted to do another cycle.  I told her I was done and this almost ruined our marriage. She pulled away from me and  was resentful towards me. This took a long time as well as counseling to get us back on track. We also noticed that once we were done with our attempts that we didn't really have much to talk about. You see having a baby had dominated our lives for so long, had become theonly thing we talked about we had lost touch of each other. After about a year and after we had fixed our relationship we started the process to adopt. This past March we adopted a beautiful baby girl. She is perfect and we couldn't be happier. I understand everyones desire to have a baby, BUT you can't let it dominate everything that you do. You can't lose sight of each other in the process.
 
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December 6, 2007, 12:08 pm PST

Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome

I was told a long time ago it would be hard to concieve due to the fact that I have polycystic ovarian syndrome. I am here to tell anyone with this problem there is hope! My husband and I have been together 13 years married 8 of them and we wanted a child for a very long time. We had two miscarriages and gave up trying so hard because of the constant disappointment. Three months after my last miscarriage I had a funny feeling I might be pregnant again so without delay I bought a pregnancy test from the dollar store because I didn't wanna spend more $ on expensive tests. It  was positive, the line was very light and my husband said I was reading to much into the test. Well I went and bought the test that spells it out and Pregnant is what it said. Now considering my problem I didn't wanna get too excited and for next six months I took at least two pregnancy tests a day to make sure I was still pregnant. In Feb. of this year I gave birth to a healthy baby boy 7lbs. 15oz. without complications and without invitro or artificial insimination seeing as we couldn't afford it.  Now I still deal with the other complication of Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome like the access hair and the horomonal problems but I still have my beautiful boy who is now 9 1/2 months old so don't be discouraged and stop being overly stressed because that will play a part in keeping you from getting pregnant as soon as I stopped worrying it happened for me and funny enough I still have 30 pregnancy tests I took during the pregnancy to make sure I was still pregnant.

 
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December 6, 2007, 12:13 pm PST

Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome

Oh yeah here is a picture to prove it could happen!!!

 
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December 6, 2007, 12:16 pm PST

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If you cannot get pregnant naturally without all the fertility stuff ....then maybe you should see it as a sign from above.

 

Maybe it was in God's plan for you to not concieve. Considering adoption seems the more natural thing to do then tampering with nature.

How dare you? You are about as clueless as Dr. Phil when it comes to this subject. You obviously don't think infertility is a disease and IT IS. One for which I personally have had to seek treament for. Many drugs, many surgeries and much, much heart break before conceiving my perfect little girl. Guess if I was dying of cancer, I shouldn't take those drugs either, God obviously meant for me to die. What an insensitive and horrible thing to say. Get a clue, you think adoption is cheap? You think there isn't just as much heartache wrapped up in those options too. You are not guaranteed a baby either way, especially in this country. Guess it shouldn't amaze me how hurtful fertile people can be to those who aren't.
 
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December 6, 2007, 12:26 pm PST

I am stunned

Man o man, I am not a tearfull guy but when DR.Phil said in the show, He went and thought that much of his wife's feelings to try to give Robin another child even after having a surgery to never have another, I had to leave the room, What a Guy, What a DAMN good guy, Man I wish I was more like the man he is

Jeff/TN

 
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December 6, 2007, 12:32 pm PST

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I am  a 30 year old married women who has been trying to get pregnant for 2 years. Last year we seeked fertility treatments and had no success yet. Unfortunately we are in that 30% tile for no unknown reason as to why we cannot get pregnant. We have been lucky so far since our insurance copy has been covering the treatments. Our insurance company only covers three months of each cycle of drugs so in two months we will be on our own financially if we plan to take it to the next level. Trying to become pregnant is like having another job you are told when to have intercourse and how often, spontaneous is not even thought of anymore. Growing up I always knew I wanted to have children, I never imagined it would be this hard. Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
i am 37 yrs old i have eight month old twins , my husband and i tried for 5 yrs and nothing, we wound up doing fertility,i took shots and i got preg with my twins, it was a blessing during that time my husband had testicle cancer, and they said that he would be sterile so we wouldnt be able to have anymore children, i did wind up getting preg with another set of twins on our own,but I miscarried last week.  i am devestated, but know we are thinking of maybe trying again for another baby next yr,dont give up, it will happend believe me, what i did is they incereted my husbands sperm with my eggs and then incerted them into me, ask your dr about that i believe it is called icsi.
 
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