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Topic : 12/06 Desperate to Be a Mom

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How far would you go to be a mother? Dr. Phil's guests are women whose biological clocks are ticking time bombs, and they're willing to risk almost everything to become pregnant. When Tonya and Keith got married, they agreed not to have children. Six years later, Tonya has had a change of heart and is now obsessed with having a baby, but Keith is totally opposed to the idea. Can they reach a compromise without resenting each other, or will the baby talk end their wedded bliss? Next, Eric and Michelle have been married over a year and have been unable to conceive. Eric refuses to spend another dime on fertility treatments because he says there's no guarantee she's going to get pregnant. Michelle won't take no for an answer and has even considered going behind her husband's back and charging fertility treatments on her credit card. After talking with Dr. Phil, will Eric decide to invest in the procedures, or will Michelle put her baby dreams on hold? And, Dr. Phil fitness expert, Robert Reames, and his wife, Arminae, share their painful five-year struggle to have another baby. Talk about the show here.

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December 7, 2007, 2:15 pm PST

Desperate for Children

Story of Tonya and Keith.

 

Having a baby is a wonderful thing.  I hope all of these couples have taken into consideration the possibility that their child may not be perfect.

 

I was 41 when I became pregnant with my son.  It was the most wonderful 2 years of my life.  Then we received the horrific news that our son had Autism.  We are very lucky, our marriage has survived but it has changed our life dramatically.  Our son is 9 years old and doing quite well, we love him dearly, however, we have spent every available cent we have to provide therapy for him to help make his life and our life better.  We were also prisoners in our home for 5 years.  His sensory issues were so bad that we could not take him anywhere, not even the zoo.  We also moved to another state where the services for Autism were much improved from where we were living.  It is amazing what a parent will do for their child.  Since moving, our son has improved to the point that we can now go to Culver's for lunch.  The point I am making is as a couple you need to be prepared for anything.

 

My husband also did not want to have children but agreed to make me happy.  Luckily, my husband is a wonderful person and has never thrown it in my face. 

 

We also did not believe this would happen to us!

 

All the best,

 
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December 7, 2007, 2:21 pm PST

Adoption

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You must be one of those people with an opinion on this that has never had to experience the inability to conceive...We have considered adoption just like IVF.  Do you not realize that adoption is a very long drawn out and expensive process too that can take years and years?  Can you imagine having a child placed in your home to be taken away because the birth mother changed her mind?  This happened twice to my stepsister and she has give up because emotionally she cannot go through that again.  I never in my life did I think that because you wanted to have your own child you would be called selfish...you get a grip.  Just because we can't have children of our own does not mean we should just give up and take on the responbility of someone elses child.  I am adopted...I know both sides and I can tell you right now that when the time comes to adopt I will know and I will do it gladly.  But that is just not the right road for everyone.  I just cannot believe how people are reacting...you act like this is something we choose.  You have no idea how terrible of a thing this is to deal with...selfish.  I am selfish because I want a child...hmm.  Dr. Phil isn't suggesting adoption for a very good reason...they are not at that stage yet.  Each person must come into on their own at the right time and most couples do it at seperate times.  You can't push a someone into adoption...that would not be fair to the child.  Please think before you post...it makes you sound callous and unsympathetic to woman who have no control over their condition.

There is an adoption tax credit of about $11,000 the federal govt gives to offset adoption expenses.

 

While adoption is not for everyone and some infertility treatments makes sense 47 year old women spending thousands and using donor eggs is extreme and not right in my opinion. I think people that would push the envelope to get pregnant when they are obviously too old probably should not adopt either. They are too self focussed to parent well.

 

Adoption is a different journey but an equally special one. I love both my kids and the journey to them both was amazing.

 

I think if you have an open heart and are not obsessive about having a bio child you are ready to be a parent.

 

Interestingly, I have a friend who is a neonatal intensive care nurse. She hates it now because so many older women are having multiples and high risk pregnancies. She said there often tons of complications. She said many of them will not do selective reduction because they feel it is against "God's Will." She questions the logic on that one too because it is against God's will to have a busload of children at 47 too. She used to love her job but she said so many of the moms now are pushy older women that micromanage the nurses and fail to realize that it is not the nurses who caused their children to have all the issues. It was their choices to have babies way toooooo late in life.

 

I think taking steps to have a bio baby is fine but I have a really problem with couples who go to EXREME measures when their bodies are not equipped to take a child to term.

 

I also struggle to have any sympathy for people with 1 child who then go to extreme measures to have a second child. You are missing the forest through the trees.

 

The first couple seemed less in love to me than the others and I suspect if they are having issues with money and goals this early on they are in for a rocky road.

 

I always wanted to be a mom and have babies. A health problem lead me to believe I would not be able to conceive. I did not obsess and stew over it. I got involved with projects to help children in general. I got fulfilled in other ways and did not focus on fertility. I developed myself as a whole person. I would have been sad if I never got pregnant but I would have dealt with it. I was open to adoption from the beginning. I think that is because I was not self absorbed like some of these people seem.

 

I ended up being fertile after all but chose to adopt and have a bio child. I had an open heart.

 

Women may have no control over their fertility or infertility but they do have control over the means they will go to to have a child. They have control over how far they will go. They have control over deciding how many miscarriages they will endure. They have control over deciding to have 8 embryos implanted with the risk that they could all take. They have choices.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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December 7, 2007, 2:31 pm PST

Completely Agree!

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I can and do sympathize with the many women in this world, who for one reason or another, can't get pregnant.  The joys of motherhood are boundless.  Yet, pregnancy isn't all there is to being a mom.  I had a sister in law who for no medical reason, could not have children.  They went through agonizing test after test.  They did the next best thing - adopted children who really needed parents.  I think there is a God in Heaven who prepares people for adopting because of all the lonely children in need.  Why can't people just accept their life where they're at, and give a great home and all that love to children who never knew the love of a real mom and dad?  There are thousands, if not milliions, of children around the world who are suffering and dying because they were not wanted by their own biological parents.  There's more to parenting than the biology of it all.

I find it disturbing that so many women are willing to go to such extreme measures to try to get pregnant.  If they can't then....take a hint!!  The world would be a much better place if all the money that was spent on fertility treatments was directed to a worthy cause.  And for you career women out there who decided to work until you were 40 and THEN decided to try to get pergnant...hey you missed your window.  Get over it.

 
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December 7, 2007, 2:49 pm PST

Having a baby

I write this to all the women who wish to have a baby, tho having your own child is a god sent, there is another god sent even a great. We took a child at birth to care for while the mother was to go to drug rehab. for which she never completed, thus long story short we ended up with the child,and have now had her for 4 years. she is the joy of our lives. we are in the process of adopting her now, which i hope will be final dec 19. we call her precious miricale for she is our miricale.

so think of all the drug babys out there whom no one else wants because drug babys usally have many problems. but to us she has given us only love.

 
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December 7, 2007, 3:03 pm PST

12/06 Desperate to Be a Mom

Quote From: pemequid1219

I can and do sympathize with the many women in this world, who for one reason or another, can't get pregnant.  The joys of motherhood are boundless.  Yet, pregnancy isn't all there is to being a mom.  I had a sister in law who for no medical reason, could not have children.  They went through agonizing test after test.  They did the next best thing - adopted children who really needed parents.  I think there is a God in Heaven who prepares people for adopting because of all the lonely children in need.  Why can't people just accept their life where they're at, and give a great home and all that love to children who never knew the love of a real mom and dad?  There are thousands, if not milliions, of children around the world who are suffering and dying because they were not wanted by their own biological parents.  There's more to parenting than the biology of it all.
So why don't you adopt and "give a great home and all that love to children who never knew the love of a real mom and dad?" You seem to have very strong opinions about everyone else saving the world. Practice what you preach.
 
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December 7, 2007, 3:30 pm PST

WOW

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I find it disturbing that so many women are willing to go to such extreme measures to try to get pregnant.  If they can't then....take a hint!!  The world would be a much better place if all the money that was spent on fertility treatments was directed to a worthy cause.  And for you career women out there who decided to work until you were 40 and THEN decided to try to get pergnant...hey you missed your window.  Get over it.

Comments like that are so insensitive.  Take a hint?  You obviously don't have any empathy.  There are millions of people out there who would make great parents and the world would be a better place if they were parents but are unable to have kids and you say "Take a hint?"  I'm not just talking about the people in their 40's either.....You have obviously never wanted something  that you had to work for and you would do anything for.  There are many people out there who shouldn't have kids in way, shape, or form and you are telling people that would be great parents to "Take a hint".  You should be ashamed for such a comment that is so unfeeling.   I feel sorry for you. 

 
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December 7, 2007, 3:51 pm PST

Been there

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It is outrageous that in a country like America couples cannot have children for free. America needs socialized medicine like Canada where there are many opportunities to have children at no cost. Europe is so much more advanced and they help couples have children at no cost to the couple. Another option would be adoption or foster children. Dr. Phil, you never mentioned that as an option. There are so many children who need loving families and this would bring happiness to both couples and the children. Thank you for listening. Chantal
Hi!  I am 41 soon to be 42, I have three beautiful girls aged 17, 15 and 10 from my first marriage.  ( I lived in Eruope for the past 14 years)The very same mariage that after my last daughter was born, my Husband told the doctor to tie my tubes.  And you know what, THE DOCTOR TIED MY TUBES AFTER THE C-SECTION WITHOUT ASKING ME IF I WAS IN AGREEMENT.  I remarried and went through IVF treatment 4 times, two times were paid for by the social insurance system in Europe and the other 2 were not covered under the social system because I turned 40!  So as good as you may think the system is, it isn't!  There are lots of restrictions, etc..... That said, I have now moved back to the states with my children and new husband and will hopefully be able to start new treatment here in the next few months.  My feeling is that if you want to get pregnant, you should try as many times as you see fit and that you could physcially and mentally handle.  There is no one that can tell you it is enough, you are the only person who holds that vote.

Adoption, yes, I investigated it while in europe, let it be said that the adoption agencies, etc... do not retunr phone calls, nor attempt to contact people interested in adopting the many children that are waiting for loving homes.

I wish everyone luck in the journeys that they choose and NEVER LET ANYONE TELL YOU WHAT TO DO!


 
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December 7, 2007, 3:56 pm PST

Hmmm interesting story....

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Story of Tonya and Keith.

 

Having a baby is a wonderful thing.  I hope all of these couples have taken into consideration the possibility that their child may not be perfect.

 

I was 41 when I became pregnant with my son.  It was the most wonderful 2 years of my life.  Then we received the horrific news that our son had Autism.  We are very lucky, our marriage has survived but it has changed our life dramatically.  Our son is 9 years old and doing quite well, we love him dearly, however, we have spent every available cent we have to provide therapy for him to help make his life and our life better.  We were also prisoners in our home for 5 years.  His sensory issues were so bad that we could not take him anywhere, not even the zoo.  We also moved to another state where the services for Autism were much improved from where we were living.  It is amazing what a parent will do for their child.  Since moving, our son has improved to the point that we can now go to Culver's for lunch.  The point I am making is as a couple you need to be prepared for anything.

 

My husband also did not want to have children but agreed to make me happy.  Luckily, my husband is a wonderful person and has never thrown it in my face. 

 

We also did not believe this would happen to us!

 

All the best,

You know autism has nothing to with age, I delived my son (now 6) at the age of 18 and he was diagnosed with autism at the age of 17 months. It was devistating, but we knew something was wrong so we were ready for the news.... My son has all his medical and therapy paid for thank God for social security :)

 
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December 7, 2007, 4:05 pm PST

How do you become a donor?

I was just curious how to become a donor, I have googled it a few years ago and came up with nothin... I just want to help good families :) Does anyone know the qualifications??
 
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December 7, 2007, 4:07 pm PST

I will love to give my husband a child

I been married 6 years marreid and happy with my second married and my husband now dosent have kids me for my firts married i have 4 boys but there wrong kids now the younges one is 17 year old and the oldest one 22 and i have a beautiful granddaugther and she 1 year and half and my husband feels so bad sometimes that he told me one time to say to his friends if they ask about my granddaugther to say that she was are daugther beacuse she was living with us for all this time so he feel like he was the dad and he dint whant to feel left out and i feel so bad beacuse i really want to give him a kid but i been operate for 17 years not to have more kids and i when to the doctor to see if they can do anything to help me to have another kid and he sed the only way is to try Encimination or other things  like that but you know if not a for sure thing, plus i will love to do it but we dont have the money or the insurences for that and i feel so bad about it beacuse hes a wonderful husband and he will be the best Dad ever im a happy women seen i been with him beacuse before i had the uglys married and i was so abuse fixically and verbelly abuse from my kids Dad before and now that i found the best man in my life i can give him what he really want in life a kids thats been his dream ever and other thing his five years younger then me so can you imagen how i feel i'm going to be 39 year on January and his going to be 34 years. Please Dr.Phil help me with this Situation that i have, I really will whant to give my husband a kid. Thank You for your help and your beautiful show God BlessYou and your family.
 
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