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How far would you go to be a mother? Dr. Phil's guests are women whose biological clocks are ticking time bombs, and they're willing to risk almost everything to become pregnant. When Tonya and Keith got married, they agreed not to have children. Six years later, Tonya has had a change of heart and is now obsessed with having a baby, but Keith is totally opposed to the idea. Can they reach a compromise without resenting each other, or will the baby talk end their wedded bliss? Next, Eric and Michelle have been married over a year and have been unable to conceive. Eric refuses to spend another dime on fertility treatments because he says there's no guarantee she's going to get pregnant. Michelle won't take no for an answer and has even considered going behind her husband's back and charging fertility treatments on her credit card. After talking with Dr. Phil, will Eric decide to invest in the procedures, or will Michelle put her baby dreams on hold? And, Dr. Phil fitness expert, Robert Reames, and his wife, Arminae, share their painful five-year struggle to have another baby. Talk about the show here.

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December 12, 2007, 9:07 am PST

It took me 10 years!

My husband and I started trying for a second child in 1996.  It took 3 yrs to become pregnant but then I miscarried at 6 weeks.  Another 3 yrs went by and I got pregnant again and again miscarried.  I went on to have a 3rd miscarriage.  We started going to a fertility clinic and went through all the testing and fertility drugs.  After a year of the fertility treatments I couldn't do it anymore and we decided to stop.  Last year I found out I was pregnant.  I went on to have a healthy baby girl in June.  To have the need to have a baby for 10 years is so hard.  I look at my daughter everyday and still can't believe that she is here! 
 
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December 12, 2007, 8:30 pm PST

Missed my chance

25 years ago I got pregnant by a wonderful older man who said he would marry me "if I wanted him to"  Well yes I wanted to marry him, but only if he wanted to marry me.  I made a rash decision and had an abortion and pushed to the back of my mind until I had a pregnancy issue come up when I was 40 - 41.  But when it came time to look for the embryo, there was a place for a baby, but no baby in the place.  Since that time, my husband says I've changed.  I'm more depressed, and believe that I am going to go to hell for this decision. I am not saying that God does not love me, but we make are decisions and have to live with the consequences.  My husband and I have thought about adoption, but there is something about someone coming into our house and judging us on whether or not we would be good parents.  I've never felt good enough, so I feel that we would be turned down because we answered a question honestly.  I believe I would be a great mother, who would be a positive influence.  But since that avenue was blocked, I had an idea that what about taking in a foster child who is getting ready to turn 18 and have foster assistance ended.  I would want it to work with an adoption agency for a recommendation for someone who it would best assist.  Help them so they can go to school, etc... I feel that my depression is because I am not working to make a difference in someone's life.  I've given up on becoming pregnant.  God gave me my chance years ago and its taken me a long time to realize what I gave up.  I was young, and didn't feel I had anyone to talk to about it, and I made a decision I can never change.  I cannot forgive myself and as such I do not feel as if I fit in with other women my age as I have nothing in common with them.  So I feel very apart from society as a whole.  Pretty sad.....I wish I could afford to go to a fertility specialist and have a bank account that would support fertility treatments...I would do anything for a child, but my husband, no so much.  He's older and has already worked through the fact that he was not going to have children, but it is different for men than for women.  Oh well, I had my chance and blew it and Tom Scarborough DOB 7/2/47, I wish I could take it all back.  I wish I could tell you how very sorry I am.  I know you got on with your life and I thought I had, but apparently it can sometimes take years for others to get on with their lives; if they ever can/do.  Rowe vs. Wade = WRONG

 
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December 13, 2007, 3:57 am PST

12/06 Desperate to Be a Mom

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25 years ago I got pregnant by a wonderful older man who said he would marry me "if I wanted him to"  Well yes I wanted to marry him, but only if he wanted to marry me.  I made a rash decision and had an abortion and pushed to the back of my mind until I had a pregnancy issue come up when I was 40 - 41.  But when it came time to look for the embryo, there was a place for a baby, but no baby in the place.  Since that time, my husband says I've changed.  I'm more depressed, and believe that I am going to go to hell for this decision. I am not saying that God does not love me, but we make are decisions and have to live with the consequences.  My husband and I have thought about adoption, but there is something about someone coming into our house and judging us on whether or not we would be good parents.  I've never felt good enough, so I feel that we would be turned down because we answered a question honestly.  I believe I would be a great mother, who would be a positive influence.  But since that avenue was blocked, I had an idea that what about taking in a foster child who is getting ready to turn 18 and have foster assistance ended.  I would want it to work with an adoption agency for a recommendation for someone who it would best assist.  Help them so they can go to school, etc... I feel that my depression is because I am not working to make a difference in someone's life.  I've given up on becoming pregnant.  God gave me my chance years ago and its taken me a long time to realize what I gave up.  I was young, and didn't feel I had anyone to talk to about it, and I made a decision I can never change.  I cannot forgive myself and as such I do not feel as if I fit in with other women my age as I have nothing in common with them.  So I feel very apart from society as a whole.  Pretty sad.....I wish I could afford to go to a fertility specialist and have a bank account that would support fertility treatments...I would do anything for a child, but my husband, no so much.  He's older and has already worked through the fact that he was not going to have children, but it is different for men than for women.  Oh well, I had my chance and blew it and Tom Scarborough DOB 7/2/47, I wish I could take it all back.  I wish I could tell you how very sorry I am.  I know you got on with your life and I thought I had, but apparently it can sometimes take years for others to get on with their lives; if they ever can/do.  Rowe vs. Wade = WRONG

Hi! It is not so bad to have people in your house while you are going through the adoption process.  My husband and I got married when my son was 9.  He wanted to adopt him.  In New York State when 1 parent adopts the child of a spouse BOTH parents are considered adoptive parents.  This really freaked me out.  Was I going to have to prove myself as a mother to a state agent?  I remember cleaning the house like crazy.  Stuffing food in the pantry.  When the lady came she put me right at ease.  She was very reassuring that this was a formality.  

 

Don't let your fear of the interview process keep you from adopting a child.  And don't let your guilt keep you from God.  There are organizations that are support group for grieving mom's of abortion.  Project Rachel is one of them.  Look into some support groups.  You have so much to offer the world, your family and a child.  You are stunting your spiritual growth and happiness with these feelings that you have.  

 

Forgive yourself.  Make the world a better place because you are in it.  Make a difference to a child. 

 
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December 13, 2007, 6:25 am PST

Something that has been bothering me

After the show about Desperate Mom , I was reminded of a comment that one of the guests made a couple of years back. She said that she remembered that the reason Dr Phil didnt want a second child was because Robin would "let herself go" . This comment bothered me as I would think that if Robin weighed 200 lbs he should be ok with it. I understand it could be a health issue but you should love your wife no matter what. Robin appears to me to be the typical skinny Hollywood girl and I just wonder if it is a pressure because she is his wife and the image has to be right. Does anyone have any thoughts on this. It has been bugging me for some time. I look forward to all feedback .
 
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December 13, 2007, 9:07 am PST

Relax

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I am  a 30 year old married women who has been trying to get pregnant for 2 years. Last year we seeked fertility treatments and had no success yet. Unfortunately we are in that 30% tile for no unknown reason as to why we cannot get pregnant. We have been lucky so far since our insurance copy has been covering the treatments. Our insurance company only covers three months of each cycle of drugs so in two months we will be on our own financially if we plan to take it to the next level. Trying to become pregnant is like having another job you are told when to have intercourse and how often, spontaneous is not even thought of anymore. Growing up I always knew I wanted to have children, I never imagined it would be this hard. Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

you have probably heard this word many times... Relax. It is not easy but it works. For years after a non viable pregnancy my husband and I tryied to get pregnant... we knew our limit: no IVF treatments but I did try some low lever hormones among acupunture  and counting days.  I drank a lot of vitamins and herbs... talked to councelors, checked my temperature and all that... and then when we had decided to wait and see... to relax and had agreed on adoption the best thing happened: we got pregnant...

 

Now I am in my 8th month of pregnancy of a loved and cherished girl. It has not been easy... Ihave been on bedrest for the last 4 months but when I see and feel my girl move inside of me...  it feels like God is smiling on my family. So please... please - I know it is not easy - relax... have faith and hope.  Adoption for us was the best option beside conceiving ourselves and it is not a disposable idea... we will still adopt but for now we are enjoying the best holiday season ever... our pregnancy!

 

 
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December 13, 2007, 11:18 am PST

12/06 Desperate to Be a Mom

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I would like to know if you have any children, and if so are they biological or adopted?

So many people, who have biological children of their own mind you, make ignorant comments and just say "Oh what's the big deal, if you can't procreate then why not adopt?...there are sooooo many children in need in this world who need a loving home".

Couples (especially women) that are going through infertility have just about heard it all... and minimizing their problem and trying to fix it with any easy solution is not fair to them. Adoption is just as emotionally draining and expensive.

I have both struggled with infertility and adopted. I have also been blessed with a biological child after 16 years of not being able to conceive. I am not attempting to minimize anyone's pain, but not only can adoption be "just as emotionally draining and expensive." It is also every bit as wonderful, rewarding, a miracle, a blessing, a gift, etc. It is all that is wonderful about becoming a parent. I have to be honest, after a painful and often frightening pregnancy, I prefered my eldests entry into the family. Adoption is a choice to become a parent, if becoming a parent is the goal, not just giving birth. They are two seperate events, one comes with time and love.
 
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December 13, 2007, 12:42 pm PST

help

i was not able to have kids either.  i was tod i would have to have IVF to have a baby  i have PCOS.  we d all natural herbs to get pg  within 3 months we were pg!!! the stuff i used is called Ovulex.  maybe it will help others too.
 
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December 13, 2007, 4:12 pm PST

Don't follow the herd!

 I really feel for this poor guy. He does not want to be a father again, end of story! It should be obvious that if one does not want  a child, one SHOULD NOT have one.  If a baby is born, a happy marriage this will not make!
 
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December 13, 2007, 4:42 pm PST

I'm so with you there!

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Well then, call me a lying liar! I am a woman, and I DO NOT WANT TO HAVE A BABY!!!!! As a matter of fact, I just got my tubes blocked! My husband and I are thrilled!
I've never had the slightest desire whatsoever to have a baby. I have dumped every guy that was looking for a breeder. A lot of them are trying to make their mommies happy by making grandchildren. That's not my problem. Fortunately my present boyfriend loves me for my mind, not my womb.

By the way, I'm 35 and have felt this way my entire life. What is the appeal of babies except that they are 100 percent dependent on you? I'm just don't need someone to "need me" like that.

The guy who posted the original comment has probably been duped by a lot of bait-and-switch types. But not all of us are like that! In fact, some of us women have had a hell of a time finding a man who DIDN'T want a breeding partner.

Incidently, what ticks me off is how hard it is to get your tubes tied. There are so many arrogant and condescending doctors who pat you on the knee and say, "You might change your mind." No, I WON'T. I wish I could sue these doctors for the 17 years worth of birth controll pills I've had to spend money on.
 
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December 13, 2007, 5:06 pm PST

I think you're blowing this out of proportion

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After the show about Desperate Mom , I was reminded of a comment that one of the guests made a couple of years back. She said that she remembered that the reason Dr Phil didnt want a second child was because Robin would "let herself go" . This comment bothered me as I would think that if Robin weighed 200 lbs he should be ok with it. I understand it could be a health issue but you should love your wife no matter what. Robin appears to me to be the typical skinny Hollywood girl and I just wonder if it is a pressure because she is his wife and the image has to be right. Does anyone have any thoughts on this. It has been bugging me for some time. I look forward to all feedback .
I have no doubt Dr Phil would still LOVE Robin even if she weighed 200 lbs. However, I also think Robin has too much respect for her husband to let herself go. It's normal, I understand, for women to put on a few pounds when they have kids, but to gain a massive amount of weight is not normal. I think a lot of women get so into the martyr idea of being a mom that they put 100 percent of their energy into their baby and none into themselves or their husbands. Martyrdom is not attractive nor interesting. Stick the baby in a stroller and jog with it. Having a baby is no excuse for letting yourself go. I know if my boyfriend let himself double in size I would still love him, but would also feel like he was being disrespectful not to want to look his best for me.
 
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