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Topic : 12/11 Plastic Surgery Nightmares

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Created on : Thursday, December 06, 2007, 03:08:11 pm
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The recent tragic death of rap superstar Kanye West’s mother, Donda West, has put a spotlight on plastic surgery and the risks involved. Donda died one day after her tummy tuck and breast reduction procedures. Is her cosmetic surgeon, Dr. Jan Adams -- whose surgery center is housed in a strip mall, who isn’t board certified and who has a long list of malpractice suits against him -- to blame for her death? Joining the discussion is Senior Editor of People magazine, Galina Espinoza, who shares what Adams had to say shortly after Donda’s death, board certified plastic surgeon, Dr. Andrew Ordon, and Dr. Adams’ uncle and former business partner, Dr. Pearlman Hicks. Plus, some of Adams’ former patients reveal what they say were horrific experiences under his knife: Jama says her full-body lift has left her disfigured, numb and unable to be intimate with her husband, Lori says Dr. Adams left a surgical sponge inside her after performing a breast surgery, and Rachel says she was left looking like she was sawed in half after her tummy tuck incision burst open four times. Join the discussion.

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December 8, 2007, 11:20 am CST

CHECK THEM OUT FIRST!

There are man excellent, boaed-certified, plastic surgeons in the United States, just as there are in Canada. There are also some incompetent duds practising in both countries.

Check out ALL physicians FIRST...BEFORE you allow them near your body. Ideally, BEFORE you have a consultation with them and BEFORE you pay them a cent to operate on you.

As a prospective patient, that is YOUR responsibility. People need to do their homework FIRST.

Generally, the top specialists in their respective fields do NOT have offices in shoppng malls.

I steer away from those when selecting a physician, dentist or other healthcare provider.

Think about it...where do the stars/actors and politicians go for their plastic/reconstrctive surgeries? I'll bet they don't go to  plastic surgeons with offices in a shopping malls! They want and need a near-perfect result. Their ability to earn a living depends upon it. You should be no less demanding when selecting ANY healthcare provider. YOUR LIFE may depend upon it.

 

 
December 8, 2007, 11:53 am CST

plastic surgeries

Whenever you go into having anyone cut on your body, you better be DAMN sure that it's the best in the

business, meaning are they board certified, have they had complaints filed against them, and names of satisfied patients. Cutting on the body is NOT an option to go shopping for a cut rate deal. Plus you need to know before hand, are you in good physical condition to go under the knife?? In my opinion, it was BOTH their faults. This doctor should NOT be allowed to practice if he has left one person disfigured, for that's a deal breaker for me. And, it's hard to believe that with this woman's money and connections, that she chose this doctor. She certainly must not have checked him out. And anyone having a practice in a strip mall would sure send red flags up to me. I had knee replacements, and I researched for nearly 11 months before, as there are a lot of different procedures out there, and I wanted to make sure that I had the best in my body, at the best hospital, with the best doctors, and i did. My procedure was the Zimmer Gender knee. You always check and double check. This doctor is a nightmare and he should not have a license. So for me it was fault on both sides.

 
December 8, 2007, 12:31 pm CST

Am I missing something?

I can understand wanting to to plastic surgery, it is a personal thing and I won't be judgemental with that.

 

I can understand not checking out credentials, not everybody knows how to do that (ask your local librarian about how to do that kind of thing, folks!).

 

But to go to a "surgeon" that operates out of a strip mall or, as I heard once on, I think, Larry King, a trailer park -- I mean, Hello, shouldn't that cause a few red lignts to flash?

 
December 8, 2007, 3:18 pm CST

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Doctor Mares Night Phil Plastic Surgery. Are you kidding me? Me not no way that I would not have plastic---

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December 8, 2007, 4:17 pm CST

Empathetic and curious

    I am an empathetic person by nature. And I truly feel sorry for the people who have been affected by this horrible doctor. Now that this is said I would like to say..... Are these people crazy? If I would ever turn to cosmetic surgery I would do the most throe background search ever, and only choose someone who is certified and comes with good references! This person is not just cutting you open he is permanently changing your body with an already established risk of DEATH!!!  And just as a rule of thumb... If you can go get a tummy tuck and then go next door to buy a cheese burger it's probably not a good place to go. Most good doctors are not located in strip malls!!!!!! (no offense to any GOOD Dr. located in a strip mall it's just an opinion:-) And out of all these people the mother of Kane West!!!!! Here we go again, I'm sorry to be rude, I think he's a wonderful artist but...He has sooooo much money yet his mother is going to a strip mall non certified Doctor???? What???? I'm a normal middle class person but I wouldn't ever let my mother go to a place like that!!! I would pay the difference for a good doctor that would keep my mother safe!  

   I feel bad I came off rude but use common sense before the big decisions people! That saves the pain of a bad mistake or in this case malpractice! I hope the all sue and win and this "doctor" is never allowed to practice medicine again!

   I cant wait to see the show!!!

 
December 9, 2007, 8:29 am CST

There are Board Certified Doctors who are not good!

I have been to doctors who are certified by Medical Boards who have no business being certified.  THAT IS THE PROBLE...THE BOARD'S CERTIFICATION!  There are dentist who should not be certified, anesthesiologists, surgeons, podiatrists and other medical fields which need to be re-certified.  I know my daughter went to a board certified doctor to do a vein surgery on her legs and she has problems today walking.  I went to a "board certified" "well-reccommend" dentist and I nearly died in his office after he pulled 5 teeth which I did not tell him to pull.  I was put through hell and trying to sue is difficult because of technicallities.  So, Board's are the answer...it is all about money and who you know.
 
December 9, 2007, 11:08 am CST

BODY DYSMORPHIC DISORDER (BDD)

Body Dysmorphic Disorder (BDD) is a psychological disease characterized with an obsession of perceived flaws in the sufferer's appearance. In reality these flaws are minimal or nonexistent, yet to the sufferer they are very real and can create extreme anxiety, obsessive thoughts, and compulsive behaviors.  Some of my favorite reads that provide a great introduction and insight into the subject are: 

 

 

The Broken Mirror:  Understanding and Treating Body Dysmorphic Disorder by Katharine Phillips

 

Eating Disorders by Pamela Keel OR Good Eater:  The True Story of One Man's Struggle With Binge Eating Disorder by Ron Saxen

 

A Bright Red Scream:  Self-Mutilation and the Language of Pain by Marilee Strong

 

How to Journal for Therapy:

http://arar.essortment.com/therapyjournali_repu.htm

 

Healing Anxiety and Depression (7 types of anxiety and depression) by Daniel Amen and Lisa Routh OR Getting Help:  The Complete and Authoritative Guide to Self-Assessment and Treatment of Mental Health Problems by Jeffrey Wood

 

 

Because the perceived physical defect in BDD isn't apparent to others, BDD can be a difficult disease to understand, accept, seek help and treat.  The late Princess Diana, also suffered from the eating disorders that characterize between 35 to 80 percent of all cutters. 

 

Hope it helps!

 

 
December 9, 2007, 11:10 am CST

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!

Quote From: kat71305

    I am an empathetic person by nature. And I truly feel sorry for the people who have been affected by this horrible doctor. Now that this is said I would like to say..... Are these people crazy? If I would ever turn to cosmetic surgery I would do the most throe background search ever, and only choose someone who is certified and comes with good references! This person is not just cutting you open he is permanently changing your body with an already established risk of DEATH!!!  And just as a rule of thumb... If you can go get a tummy tuck and then go next door to buy a cheese burger it's probably not a good place to go. Most good doctors are not located in strip malls!!!!!! (no offense to any GOOD Dr. located in a strip mall it's just an opinion:-) And out of all these people the mother of Kane West!!!!! Here we go again, I'm sorry to be rude, I think he's a wonderful artist but...He has sooooo much money yet his mother is going to a strip mall non certified Doctor???? What???? I'm a normal middle class person but I wouldn't ever let my mother go to a place like that!!! I would pay the difference for a good doctor that would keep my mother safe!  

   I feel bad I came off rude but use common sense before the big decisions people! That saves the pain of a bad mistake or in this case malpractice! I hope the all sue and win and this "doctor" is never allowed to practice medicine again!

   I cant wait to see the show!!!

I so agree with what you said. I was going to write exacly what I read that you wrote.  Even if it was not a star's mother, HELLO......................... read up on these people.    Did she not know that he was not board certified?  Not only that, but when you plan on having surgery, are'nt you supposed to follow up to see if this doctor has any malpractice suits?  He had TONS!!
 
December 9, 2007, 10:23 pm CST

12/11 Plastic Surgery Nightmares

In all honesty....if I was to ever have plastic surgery (which I doubt very much I would do), having seen Dr. Adams on TV hosting a show based on plastic surgery, I would assume he was a competent, board certified surgeon, and probably would have been very trustworthy of him. Surgery of any kind comes with risks, but I will admit, just from watching him on TV alone, and hearing him speak of surgery and the risks, I probably wouldnt have researched his credentials as much as I would for my own neighborhood doctor. Shame on me! And good thing I love myself the way I am!
 
December 10, 2007, 11:13 am CST

12/11 Plastic Surgery Nightmares

 First off if the SURGERY ITSELF is housed in a Strip Mall, personally I wouldn't CARE how MANY DIPLOMAS, CERTIFACATIONS or whatever he had on his wall, SURGERY is the DOMAIN of Hospitals, maybe some private clinics, personally though I would INSIST on touring the facilities, everything from the surgery itself to the recovery area, then talk to the employees from the receptionist to the Head Nurse, and if ANYTHING, ANYTHING makes you feel uncomfortable, or uneasy at all, find another Doctor or facility.  Any Doctor who tries to Bully or talk you into ANYTHING isn't much of a Doctor, any DOCTOR who dosen't take your concerns seriously, isn't much of a Doctor.  I know too many people, even now who take the Doctors word as law, some ended up having to face some serious consequences, personally I respect a Doctor MORE if they can admit they DON'T KNOW (as frustrating as that can be for the patient) and will recommend another Doc, then one that sees me as a Lab Experiment.
Did any of these other women go to the Media with their stories ?  It breaks my heart to see things like this, MOST people who have plastic surgery, really have no disfigurements that may make it NECESSARY, they do it in an attempt to fix something in order to make them feel better mentally, some get so Obsessed and desparate that they DON'T CARE or don't THINK about the consequences, EVERY TIME a scalpel cuts into the human body, EVERY TIME you go under anasthetic, you are at risk of any number of complications.  What breaks my heart, is NOW these women are disfigured WORSE than ANYTHING they could've perceived BEFORE the surgery.
My big problem with Plastic Surgery, is it seems now it is playing to our fears of aging, of trying to make people belive that if you tuck up your stomach, or lift your face, that somehow it will fix any problems you may have in you life.
And ANY Doctor who uses an INFOMERCIAL to advertise himself, I would be VERY suspicious of, their work should be able to speak for its self, I know, you can't get a patient list for referals or opinions, unlike say a contractor, Doctors are NOT allowed to release patient files, so the onus is on the patient to take a step back and learn EVERYTHING they can about the procedure its self and the Doctor BEFORE sighning on, and DON'T EVER be afraid to say "this Doctor isn't right for me"  This is your body, health and in some cases your LIFE.
 
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