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Created on : Thursday, December 13, 2007, 05:12:39 pm
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The ultimate test for any parent is loving a child who is difficult, sometimes frightening, to the whole family. It’s a test parents of autistic children are put to daily. Ten-year-old Luz throws screaming tantrums, barks like a dog, and tells his mother, Sara, that he plans to kill her. Sara has long felt despair at Luz’s out-of-control behavior, yet she was shocked when a doctor diagnosed him with autism. Go inside the daily life of this family, see Luz’s wild behavior caught on tape, and learn why Sara’s main coping mechanisms might be putting her at risk. Then, a member of Dr. Phil’s own staff achieved miraculous results for her autistic child and her whole family through an intense program. Could a similar treatment work for Luz? Plus, what causes autism? Several recent media reports and high-profile parents such as Jenny McCarthy have pointed the finger at vaccinations. Is there a link? Child care expert and pediatrician Dr. Jim Sears weighs in. Then, imagine having a crime committed against you, but not having a voice or any way to tell someone you’d been wronged. Some mothers in Las Vegas say that’s exactly what happened when a teacher allegedly abused their autistic children, and they’ve filed a lawsuit. Hear them recount the painful details of the alleged abuse. What are their chances of winning in court? Share your thoughts here.

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December 20, 2007, 5:21 am PST

Please help me Dr. Phil!!!!

I read what Sara was going through with her son and the lack of support...  I too was in her shoes!!  My son was different from birth, I started searching for answers.  But, in the 90's everything was ADHD!!!  They had him on clonodine and aderral.  The Clonodine knock the poor guy out and he lost his hair at the age of 4!!!!  They tried saying it was hiertitary hair loss!!  Then his tantrum kept getting worse...  I had him hospitalized and they came up with bi-polar!  They then put him on Zyprezia with has now been recalled and I think lithium too.  Then child protective services got involved when the school call them after seeing bruising on his back.  The night before, he got violent and needed to be blanket wrapped a technique used by the hospital to restrain him to do no further harm to himself or to anybody else til he calms down.  But, while doing that He struggles so hard, he breaks blood vessels as a blood pressure cuff would that is too tight on an arm.  I knew when he was young, that I was was just holding on to him til the day they came to take him away, but I never thought that I would never be able to see him again!!   I don't know if they have figured out if he has autism or not, but I believe he does.  I also believe that it was wrong to punish both the mother and the child.  What is wrong this system???  Please Dr. Phil, help me get an update on  my son for Christmas!! 
 
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December 20, 2007, 6:31 am PST

12/19 Parents’ Ultimate Test: Dealing with Autism

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After reading this shows intro about the child's violent behavior, it  worries  me that many people will view others with autism as potentially violent and even fear them. Violence is unusual for a person with autism. It is not the norm but gets the most attention of course.
Since my son was diagnosed in March of 2000, I've been studying this disorder and hope that the show conveys to viewers that autism does NOT look the same on every person and each person with autism has a range of mild to severe behaviors that can arise.
Many behaviors come and go as the child explores his world around him, tries to assimilate into the environments we've created and tries to desensitize himself to what can be overwhelming environmental triggers due to heightened senses.
We need to have compassion because the population of people with autism has exploded since the 1990's and many many families have made significant progress with children who may have seemed unteachable to many.

This enormous and growing population of people WITH autism (NOT autistics - impolite term to many) will be all of our co-workers, neighbors, spouses, class mates and ultimately our greatest teachers in the next two decades and then beyond. 
Your future grandchildren and even future son-in-law may have autism.
Please honor and respect them and if you know of a relative, friend, school mate, or neighbor with autism, please do not be afraid of getting to know them better. They will develop more acceptable ways of expressing themselves by watching your example and thrive with attention. Just try to ignore the autistic behaviors and treat them like everyone else. It may take practice.
The child featured on the show can be helped a great deal if the parent has help, resources and does research. What has helped my son the most is nutrition and biomedical help such as determining trigger foods, allergens and ridding the body of toxic build ups of yeast, metals, preservatives. Also, five years completed of speech and occupational therapies. And most importantly, treating and interacting with him as we'd treat him if he was any other typical child. He is now age 10 and doing better than ever expected.

If you love somebody whose life has been touched by autism, THEY may not have enough time and energy to go on-line and research from thousands of websites to learn about all of the wonderful and varied approaches to helping their child or loved one with autism to thrive.
YOU can help by learning all you can, reading, printing info and sharing with them.
I hope this helps inform someone and I sincerely will answer any questions posed as I care very much about these kids and this topic. I will be back on-line after the holidays though.
Thank you for reading.

This was very inspirational.  Thank you.

 
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December 20, 2007, 6:46 am PST

You don't know unless you deal with it personally!

 I watched the show yesterday, and cried.... It's such a complex disability... My child was diagnosed at 2 1/2 yrs old. He has moderate autism.... It's scary as a parent to deal with this.... He's 5-years-old now and is an amazing kid... SO smart, but has his moments... I agree with the mom who said that kids with autism are not all violent... My son is so loving and would not hurt a flea. He does get frustrated though and that can cause him to have behaviors.... I think this is something that people just don't understand about autism.

I do however get scared about the future and what we will deal with when he gets older. I think that is why I cried watching the show. I don't know what my future holds with our son. All I know is that I love him with ALL my heart and would NEVER EVER change the way he is, even though it gets tough...


 
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December 20, 2007, 6:46 am PST

I am even angrier that........

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It makes me so angry that it took years for vaccines with mercury preservatives in them to be used up. We trust the drug companies to do no harm.  They, however, would never step up to the plate and recall the offending vaccine that parents were clamoring were making their kids autisitc.  Timerasol is not in new single dose vaccines but they were never recalled or removed from the pediatricians offices.  Most of the supply has now been used up (on our kids.)

 

I am sick and tired of hearing how mercury in vaccines has nothing to do with autism.  My son stopped talking after receiving a cluster of shots including the MMR- So do all the studies you want they don't mean anything to me.  No one asked me when the drug companies did their studies. 

 

When we found lead in toys there was a just and wise response.  Recall the contaminated toys.  Test your children's toys.  Heavy metals of any kind and in any amount are damaging to developing brain cells and neuron connections. 

 

When it was found that the same preservative, Thimerasol, was in contact lens solution there was an outcry and boycott of thimerasol containing solutions and it was removed. 

 

Parents ask your pediatrician if the vaccines your child will be receiving has thimerasol.  If their stock of vaccine still contains this toxin ask them to order preservative free vaccine. 

 the propaganda and lies continue to be spread about thimerosal being the cause of ASD!!!
You need verified, and peer reviewed studies completed that THIMEROSAL is the DIRECT CAUSE of Autism, the anti-vaccination folks just cannot see past that!
Correlation does not imply causation!
Dr. James R Laidler, a doc who has 2 children on the spectrum, bought the whole anti-vaccination propoganda hook line and sinker.  Put his children on "special diets", and some of the other fad treatments that goes with it.  Read his story, it speaks volumes of his and his  wifes' desire to "cure" his boys!
PS: Thimerosal is no longer in any vaccines (1999 they banned the production of vaccines containing the preservative thimerosal) with the exception of the flu vaccine!
 
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December 20, 2007, 6:56 am PST

You Do Need Help

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I read what Sara was going through with her son and the lack of support...  I too was in her shoes!!  My son was different from birth, I started searching for answers.  But, in the 90's everything was ADHD!!!  They had him on clonodine and aderral.  The Clonodine knock the poor guy out and he lost his hair at the age of 4!!!!  They tried saying it was hiertitary hair loss!!  Then his tantrum kept getting worse...  I had him hospitalized and they came up with bi-polar!  They then put him on Zyprezia with has now been recalled and I think lithium too.  Then child protective services got involved when the school call them after seeing bruising on his back.  The night before, he got violent and needed to be blanket wrapped a technique used by the hospital to restrain him to do no further harm to himself or to anybody else til he calms down.  But, while doing that He struggles so hard, he breaks blood vessels as a blood pressure cuff would that is too tight on an arm.  I knew when he was young, that I was was just holding on to him til the day they came to take him away, but I never thought that I would never be able to see him again!!   I don't know if they have figured out if he has autism or not, but I believe he does.  I also believe that it was wrong to punish both the mother and the child.  What is wrong this system???  Please Dr. Phil, help me get an update on  my son for Christmas!! 
Was your child taken from you by child protective?  Is he in foster care?  Blanket wrapping or other restraints are a controversial technique.  It calms the child only after he has spent all his energy fighting the restraint.  Being restrained can be terrifying to children.  Have you had any one who would help you handle your child?  Rather than claim to be a victim you need to show a family court judge that you have learned other ways to deal with your child.  I can see how much you love him but if he is being bruised by restraints then you are no different in your handling of him than the teachers that are being investigated.   You do need help.  You need to work with CPS to find ways to deal with your child and your stress.  Tell them that you need help (and mean it) instead of defending your behavior and they will be more willing to return him to your care.  Maybe this is your opportunity to get the help that you and your son need.
 
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December 20, 2007, 7:34 am PST

12/19 Parents’ Ultimate Test: Dealing with Autism

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I appreciate the time Dr. Phil and his staff took to make an show about autism. Every time there is info about autism in the media, it is a good thing.

 

I would like to see more stories of families like mine. I have a son with severe autism. He is almost 7, nonverbal, not potty trained, very large, aggresive, and is very hard for me to take care of everyday. He is aggressive towards his siblings, who are older than he is, and he outweighs them so it is very easy to hit, push into a corner, smother, etc. I feel so badly when I have to hold him off his sister, who is 9, because he is trying to hurt her, unprovoked. And it breaks my heart to send my other kids out of the room, or tell them to go in their rooms and lock the door to hide from their brother. A family should not be like this. It hurts that my husband and i never get to go out together, someone has to stay home with Jacob. We haven't done vacations or family outings in years. Either my husband or I always has to miss events, both of us can never be there.

 

We are also stuck in middle economy. We make enough to own a small home (1100sf), but not enough to provide Jacob the things he needs. We make too much for medicaid- which would provide therapy, medications, etc. for Jacob- but not enough to pay for these expensive things ourselves. It really is the worst position to be in. If only we made a little less, Jacob could have the benefit of healthcare, several types of therapy, and respite care as well. We are living paycheck to paycheck, with no wiggle room. Jacob goes to public schol and the only therapy that he gets is the small amount they provide during the school day. The family on the show today doesn't seem to realize that they are actually very fortunate in several areas. First- they have a child who speaks and who is potty trained. If Jacob had these to skills, life would be 50% easier. Secondly, they have help. The mother said they have 2 people who come to their home to help with their son. That is a luxury. We can't even get a babysitter. Our son is too large and too difficult for other people to handle. I don't want to discount the family that was spotlighted today. They obviously have it hard. I think it would be  very painful to have your child saying such horrible things to me. But my heart aches to hear my son say anything.

 

Now the good stuff- Jacob has blesssed our lives in some amazing ways. I have an increased amount of patience, acceptance, kindness and compassion. Having a special needs child really does bring out the best in you. When he is happy, he's a ball of fun. He can be very affectionate and loves to hug and kiss me. And we have a very easy way of eliminating the people in our lives who aren't worth it. No one sticks around to be friends with the parents and siblings of special needs kids unless they are superb people. Jacob repels the losers, and really draws in the winners. We have met some great parents of other kids with autism, ome wonderful teachers and therapists, and we are so happy to have certain people in our lives. My older kids are super accepting and kind as well. they have no fear of befriending kids with special needs, and they are also both very bright. I'm blessed to have them.

 

My biggest dream right now is to have something special for my other two kids. They sacrifice so much. They deal with abuse, never have my husband or I to themselves, and have a lot of their possesions ruined by their 'little' brother. At this point, they are evern sharing a room. And an 11 year old boy and a 9 year old girl sharing a small bedroom room is not easy. But it's the only way it can work in this tiny house. It's not the best location, we have been burglarized and have some interesting characters lurk around in the park behind our home. As we look for a new house to replace this one, our needs are very specific: it can't be on a busy road because Jaocb escapes, and does not understand danger. It has to have a kitchen that we can close up- Jacob has some food obsessions. It must be near a school that Jacob  can go to. Currently he rides the bus for 2 hours a day. That is not acceptable to me. The home needs to give my other kids some freedoms- a big backyard to play in, their own rooms- this would be a dream. At this point that is all it is, a dream.

My younger brother (19) has Autism. And it's funny because Christopher too repels losers and draws in winners. That is actually how I measured a guy I was interested in dating. If Chris liked them, they were worth a try, if he didn't like them, they had to go. I'm engaged now, and believe me, the Chris-o-meter worked like a charm!
All kidding aside, reading your post (specifically about wanting to do something great/special for your other two kids) broke my heart. My mom is EXACTLY the same way. The thing is, I dont' really need anything. Having a brother like Chris has always filled me up so much I didn't have much room for anything else, and I was okay with that. Now I can't speak for your kids, but judging by what you wrote about them (about befriending special needs kids, and being kind and accepting), they sound a lot like me, and they are probably just fine. Sure it's hard with a sibling like Christopher or Jacob (Chris used to come down the stairs naked sometimes when I had people over, that was fun... funny now, not then) sometimes, but I always thought of it this way: He's never going to tattle on me if I curse in front of him or do something wrong. He'll always listen and not talk over me or judge me. And that laugh (I am sure Jacob has an infectious laugh too), well that laugh can make me happy faster than ANYTHING else in the world.
Please don't feel guilty for what you can't give your other kids and be happy about what you can.
There are TONS of kids out there who have "normal" siblings and really crummy parents who don't care enough to want something great for their kids, so in reality, they're very lucky.
Happy Holidays! :)
 
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December 20, 2007, 7:41 am PST

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 I WATCHED YOUR SHOW TODAY AND I CRIED.. I HAVE A SOON TO BE 11 YR OLD THAT HAS AUTISM AND LIVING WITH A CHILD WITH AUTISM IS VERY HARD. HE SCREAMS AND YELLS AND AND WISHES WE WERE DEAD.. BUT I KNIOW IN MY HEART HE CAN'T HELP HIMSELF.. HE TURNS UP THE T.V HITS AND FIGHTS WITH HIS SISTER AND OLDER BROTHER. AND WITH HIS NEPHEW AND NO-ONE UNDERSTANDS UNLESS THE ARE GOING THREW SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AND THE AREA I LIVE IN THERE IS NO HELP OUT THERE UNLESS I TRAVEL A LONG WAY.. I JUST WISH THERE WAS MORE HELP.SO I CAN HELP MY SON..HE ALSO HAS ODD. OCC. NON-VERBAL. AND SENCERY DISORDER.. I WISH THERE WAS SOMEPLACE I CAN GO FOR HELP WITH MY SON AND FOR MY FAMILY.. THANK YOU VERY MUCH

I HOPE YOU HAVE MORE SHOW ABOUT AUTISM SO PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND..

I ALSO AGREE THAT YOU DO LOSE YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND YOU CAN'T FIND A BABYSITTER FOR CHILDREN FOR THIS PROBLE.. BUT IN THE OTHER HAND HE IS A VERY LOVING SON.. THANK YOU LINDA

 
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December 20, 2007, 7:42 am PST

Problems with children

 My child has not been been diagnosed with autism they say he is just on the edge of it. How ever they have given him every other diagnoses known to a child. They say he has ADHD, Bipolar, OCD, and sencery problems. how ever you look at it that is a lot for an 8 year old. He is on many medications for this. I understand a lot of what you are going through because I am a single mother having to deal with this. He has a little brother that has had to learn to defend himself becacause he could not take the abuse anymore. I am very lucky to have good friends up the street that will come down when he is beating on me and I need help getting him under control. I have also had to resort to calling the police on him. I fear every day that he will hurt himself or one of us. I am not sure how he will funtion as an adult in the real world. I go through Family Service and Guidence and I use many of there services and it seems I am at a loss as to were to go now. It seems the older he gets the more violent he gets. I have had to stop him from seeing his dad because his dad is the same way, and refuses to admit he has a problem or get any help. My main goal is to help him. My prayers are with you and your family I just wanted to let you know that your not alone.
 
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December 20, 2007, 7:44 am PST

Not Anti Vaccine

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 the propaganda and lies continue to be spread about thimerosal being the cause of ASD!!!
You need verified, and peer reviewed studies completed that THIMEROSAL is the DIRECT CAUSE of Autism, the anti-vaccination folks just cannot see past that!
Correlation does not imply causation!
Dr. James R Laidler, a doc who has 2 children on the spectrum, bought the whole anti-vaccination propoganda hook line and sinker.  Put his children on "special diets", and some of the other fad treatments that goes with it.  Read his story, it speaks volumes of his and his  wifes' desire to "cure" his boys!
PS: Thimerosal is no longer in any vaccines (1999 they banned the production of vaccines containing the preservative thimerosal) with the exception of the flu vaccine!

I have never claimed that vaccinations should not be given to children.  Does it not anger you that mercury was injected into American children for years.  Are you not outraged that a known neurotoxin was placed in a product designed to protect our kids?  How about lead paint in toys- does that bother you?  Would you let a child suck on a battery laden with cadmium? 

 

Whether mercury is the cause of autism in my child isn't as important as the big question- Why was is there at ALL?

 

PS:  Thimersol laden vaccine was NEVER recalled.  It is not in new production of vaccine but it is being used up on our nations children.  Does that bother you?  Mercury, even in small doses, is not safe for babies.  It was a breach of trust for pharmaceutical companies to put a harmful ingredient in a product designed for infants.

 
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December 20, 2007, 8:36 am PST

Was in Shock

Hello All, AS i rushed home yesterday to see the show i had taped, I was in shock, not because of what i was seeing , I live with this every day, That boy is got nothing on my son, My son was thrown out of school by a prinicpal and i was told a year ago never to come back to the regular school system and i had to walk a way confused and beyond words and feeling can even come close, I feel these people are the lucky ones that have had some help from Dr phil but what about all the other familes that never get help, WE live in the state that many people would not and never be able to handle, My son has set the house on Fire, Blew up my car, Nearly Killed him self plus other members on the family and as his mother i must stand there and take this everyday, My son has Bipolar/Autism/ODD/Verbal Tourettes, I am beyond emotions and crying that what is going to happen to my son when i die, You live with the anger and screaming every day, Hoping that just this one day will be normal will be ok and that you are not going to have to be the victim of abuse again from your son, It just makes me made that the show brings a light to one persons story and every one sits there and we all feel like the woman did , Siblings are all effected by this, Marriages all take a battering, But we Carry on, Theres no Doctor Phil around my door and there sure as hell is no help coming to save me from cracking up, I aready have, But life goes on and thats what i tell myself when i wake up every day,

 
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