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Topic : 01/08 Cyber Bullies

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Created on : Friday, January 04, 2008, 02:07:51 pm
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You've heard the saying, “Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.” But what happens when someone posts malicious comments about you on the Internet? This trend, known as e-vengeance or cyber bullying, can have deadly consequences. Thirteen-year-old Megan Meier committed suicide after being taunted on MySpace by “Josh,” whom she believed to be a cute teenage boy. Unbeknownst to her parents, Ron and Tina, Josh’s profile was fake, which they believe was created by an adult neighbor to monitor Megan. Was this a case of freedom of speech, or harassment? A state senator proposing anti-cyber-bullying legislation and a First Amendment attorney weigh in. Then, Colorado councilwoman Sandy Tucker made national headlines when she posted a controversial joke online. When the mayor asked her to remove remarks he considered offensive, Sandy refused and then resigned. She doesn't feel the need to apologize and says people need to lighten up. Holly lives in Sandy's town, and joins the show via Web cam to tell the former councilwoman why the joke is no laughing matter. Plus, meet a man who says he's constantly taunted by racist slurs while playing Xbox Live. Join the discussion.

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January 8, 2008, 12:08 pm PST

The Hangin of Megan

I feel the mother of this young girl should be taking some responsibility. The mother of this young girl should have never helped or allowed her daughter to put a profile on My Space. There are thousandsof boys at her school, there is no reason why Megan should have had to put a profile on the internet to meet someone. I would have to say that Megan had to have some issues that she would kill herself over something someone that she had never meant said about her. This would have never happened if the mother didn't put Megan profile on the computer in the first place!!!
 
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January 8, 2008, 12:20 pm PST

The Mother is to blame for the daughters death

After watching the first 5 minutes of this show, I was convinced that if this so called mother loved her daughter and had been more supportive this would not have happened. The mother is really really cold.

I have a 13 year old daughter myself. If this had to happen to my daughter my love and support would have averted anything like this. Besides my daughter is so loved by her parents that she has no need to look for love else where. Anyway, these so called parents who shouldn't have kids in my opinion should have put a block on the internet like we have.

Who fault is this really???????

 
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January 8, 2008, 12:21 pm PST

sexual content

I'm watching the show on cyber bullying and how that mother used myspace and pretended to be a young boy  and communicated with a  child.

Isn't there a law that would cover this activity? Communications between this adult and child became sexual in nature. It would seem to me that this woman could now be prosecuted as a sexual offender or something.
 
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January 8, 2008, 12:25 pm PST

Cyber Bullies

There is first sympathy to the family who lost their daughter. I know kids can be really cruel and I have seen it only get worse over the years since the 1970's.  The message that is getting out there by some people is that statement that really irratates me to nolimits is that " It takes a Village to raise a child". The problem is that people have these children and then let them run wild expecting those of that imaginary Village to be the ones that teaches them. First of all, they brought the children into the world so they should be smart enough to know that they are resposible for their childrens up bringing. It is not my responsibility to teach them manners on how to be have. It also does not help that the schools can not spend time in taking care as to help in making things for all kids safe since we have this mental atitude that no one dare say a thing to our children.

     A word of advice to those parents who want to let their children have a computer and the use of the internet. First of all the computer should never be located in a childs room as it needs to be in a centeral place so those parents whose children use the computer and internet can see what they are doing and who they are talking to. I first started off with watching everything that the children did with the computer, watched who they talked to and then fooled myself that they were wise enough to not do worng so we did that bad thing of placing a computer so they can use the net on their own in a room on their own. We found attitudes were changing and the way the  interaction with the family was going. 

   I regret that we allowed that to happen and warn others to not follow pursuit. I have seen a lovely daughter who was well mannered go to rude all the time and sassy.  If they have the computer in their room move it to a more travelled location as we can not always blame others for what has happened as we allowed ourselves to fall into a lull of ease with out even thinking of how much danger is out there.

 

 

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January 8, 2008, 12:30 pm PST

Morally Outrageous, Not Legally Culpable

This is a tragedy, and my heart goes out to Megan's family. I think that  Laurie Drew is a horrible person, who should be held morally responsible for everything she did.

That being said, legislation in this situation may not ever be possible. The truth is, that if what this woman did were to happen in person (i.e. if she or her daughter came up to megan on the street and they had a consensual conversation and she told Megan that "everyone hated her"), she wouldn't have been held legally responsible for that. People bully and do things all the time that lead to suicide. It's tragic and awful, but not a legal violation.

We have freedom of speech in this country. If these people were harrasing Megan (which would be defined by non-consensual conversation), then maybe we'd have an argument. But the truth is that she was responding to them, was fighting back, and at a certain point that really just isn't legally binding.

If Megan were being tormented on the school bus, those students may be suspended or expelled, but there isn't any legal action that can be taken against them.

Her mother can really only hope for a lawsuit.
Not to mention the fact that even if a law were passed, Laurie Drew wouldn't be able to be persecuted under it because it was passed after she commited the "crime". I don't know what these parents are hoping for, but a new law is not going to catch Laurie Drew.
 
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January 8, 2008, 12:30 pm PST

Unpopular response

The only one responsible here are Megan's parents,if they knew she was unstable,which they clearly did,then she should not have been allowed to be online and once her mother knew that something was going on then she should have pulled her daughter offline and she stated that she did know.Another point no one is bringing up is why was her mom was letting her talk to a 25 year old man when she was 13?Everyone feels sorry because they lost a child but they need to take responsibility for doing nothing to help their child,she was a disturbed child.
 
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January 8, 2008, 12:30 pm PST

About the cyber bullies

   I don't understand why the mother of the girl who hung herself didn't shut the computer off before it got so bad. If someone is sending your child abusive emails or comments on myspace you should delete them as a friend and block them from your space. I have a myspace page and know that if you don't want to talk to someone or hear what they have to say you don't have to. The mother should have stepped in and got her daughter off the computer. I feel very sad that this kind of thing happens. As for the woman and daughter who created the fake boy on myspace, they should feel very ashamed of themselves and they will be judged in the end by God!

 
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January 8, 2008, 12:34 pm PST

01/08 Cyber Bullies

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I find it incredible that falsly posing as a minor to gain the confidence of another minor is not illegal. If the older woman was a man she would have been viewed as a sexual predator. What she has done is no less offensive than what a pedophile trying to contact your child and just as questionable. Her actions are completely inappropriate and she should be legally restrained from having interaction or contact with minors in the future.
AMEN!!! She IS a predator and should be dealt with as such! As well as the employee who helped her!
 
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January 8, 2008, 12:37 pm PST

01/08 Cyber Bullies

 I think cyber bullying is absolutely ridiculous. It's cowardly and it's a gigantic waste of time. People need to remember there is a life outside of the internet. I've grown up with the internet in my house. I hardly remember what I did with my time when I was bored, before I got the internet. I have run into my fair share of cyber bullying. I've been the one doing the bullying and I've been the one bullied. Go to any journal website. Livejournal.Com, Deadjournal.Com etc etc. Any website that allows ANONYMOUS posts or comments, is a breeding ground for cyber bullies. It's too easy to be someone you're not on the internet. It's too easy to construct a fake persona in order to acheive a negative agenda, and something needs to be done about.

I in no way condone an adult attacking a child via the internet. That's sick and twisted, and my heart goes out to Megan's family. However, growing up with the internet means different and new rules should be constructed and implemented within the home. I have found myself upset and wanting to kill myself countless times because of cyber bullies, and every single time my mother has said "Turn off the computer, and read a book. Go outside. Go for a drive. Invite a friend over." Suggesting turning off the computer may seem trite and trivial, but it works. If you see your child is upset and worked up after being on the internet, do not let them back on the internet for awhile!! I wish someone would've taken away my internet for the last four years.

Regardless, something needs to be done. Laws need to be changed or re-created to suit the needs and issues the internet is bringing society.
 
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January 8, 2008, 12:37 pm PST

Why?

I guess I just have to say that this is a very tragic incodent.  I am disapointed to hear that the young girl had a myspace page.  You have to be 14 years old to log on and be a member for a reason.  I know that the mother had all the passwords, but her child still wasn't old enough.  It goes to show, that if you are not of age you shouldn't be on the sight.  It wasn't her mothers fault, but on the other hand, if there was no myspace page, there wouldn't have been any bulling either.  Parents give in too much, and there can be tragic outcomes.  I hope that other mothers whom might have given there 12 and 13 year old daughters a myspace page PULL THEM OFF!  They need to be off the internet and plugged into there familys!
 
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