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Created on : Friday, January 04, 2008, 02:07:51 pm
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You've heard the saying, “Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.” But what happens when someone posts malicious comments about you on the Internet? This trend, known as e-vengeance or cyber bullying, can have deadly consequences. Thirteen-year-old Megan Meier committed suicide after being taunted on MySpace by “Josh,” whom she believed to be a cute teenage boy. Unbeknownst to her parents, Ron and Tina, Josh’s profile was fake, which they believe was created by an adult neighbor to monitor Megan. Was this a case of freedom of speech, or harassment? A state senator proposing anti-cyber-bullying legislation and a First Amendment attorney weigh in. Then, Colorado councilwoman Sandy Tucker made national headlines when she posted a controversial joke online. When the mayor asked her to remove remarks he considered offensive, Sandy refused and then resigned. She doesn't feel the need to apologize and says people need to lighten up. Holly lives in Sandy's town, and joins the show via Web cam to tell the former councilwoman why the joke is no laughing matter. Plus, meet a man who says he's constantly taunted by racist slurs while playing Xbox Live. Join the discussion.

Find out what happened on the show.

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January 8, 2008, 1:32 pm PST

Cyber Bullies

Ah yes, just what we need.  Lets get government more involved in our lives.  Go ahead, pass a law to make cyber bullying a crime.  Lets create yet another bureaucratic department to enforce this law.  Spend thousands if not millions to investigate and bring these criminals to justice.

Could not time and money be better spent educating parents.  Bringing them to the same level of internet intelligence their child has. 

How is providing your child with a computer and internet access without supervision and education any different than providing that same child with an automobile without supervision and education?

I understand the need of the parents, who have suffered a tremendous loss, to receive a feeling that justice has been served.  An apology from those involved just does not cut it.

Spend time starting a foundation in your daughters name.  One focus of this foundation could be to educate parents.  Encourage parent envolvment with any and all internet time.  Teach our children that there are just some cruel people out there and what to do should one cross their path.

The issue of trust from parent to child should not be allowed to be an issue.  Plain and simple, children do not have enough life experience to handle an adult with a hurtful, hateful adjenda.  They need us. 

 
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January 8, 2008, 1:33 pm PST

cyberbullying - MS has wrong attitude

I felt compelled to write because of what I heard on today's show regarding cyberbullying.  I too enjoy playing online games and am a long-time subscriber to my favorite game - "fighterace" (hence my nicname).  Ketsujin Studios, owners of this game have it right.  As a part of the agreement you must sign to create your account, there is a Code of Conduct (CoC) you must read and acknowledge that you will be in compliance with it at all times.  The CoC outlines in very plain simple terms that you must in no way do anything that will be regarded as offensive to any other player, nor are you allowed to swear (text filter in place), call names or otherwise detract from the enjoyment of the game by other players.  Even name-calling in other languages than English is caught on many occassions and is dealt with accordingly.  Violators are instantly caught because they have "monitors" with an "@fa" within their in-game nicnames who constantly check what's going on.  And there's almost never a time when there isn't at least one "@fa" in a room to deal with potential situations, resolve problems, provide assistance, etc.

 

Furthermore, if they miss something, the chat log always shows exactly who said/did what, and when they did it.  The "offender" is warned the first time they break the rules.  The second time they break the rules they are instantly "kicked" from the game and have their accounts locked out for 24 hours.  If it is done a 3rd time, their membership is revolked without refund; real name and information is kept on record and they are barred from ever re-joining the game.

 

Can it be much simpler?  Microsoft needs to grow up and address the problems inherent with X-Box Live (cyberbullying/ name calling, etc.) and act accordingly.  Simply create a CoC that registrants must accept when creating their account and hold all people accountable for their actions and back this up with people monitoring the rooms on a constant basis.  After all, if they can make $45 million in 3 days, they can afford to hire a few dozen people to monitor what's happening in their game-rooms.

 

Thanks for listening.

 

 

 
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January 8, 2008, 1:35 pm PST

turn it off

I am sure that not all will agree with me. But turn it off. i play games on line i talk on line. and yes i have come across the haters looking to fight bully. walk away turn it off i do. And for you kids take them away from my space.  i never let my kids on the net without me there. i no all pass words. i daily check and remove friend adds that i no are Cyb freaks selling sex. keep it locked so not all can see it. as a mom u have to be in there world. and because we talk and have a open relationship he does not think i am invading his stuff. he nos why i check. i don't hide nothing from them i let the know there is freaks out there in this world and i make sure do what i can to help keep them safe. and if there was bullying going on  they would be shut down. most net bully's are weak people who are being bullied in life and they have nothing better in there life and if u feed into them and write back it feeds them. so do like u would do in the world walk away. and i believe that mother who played a part in the little girls death she should know karma will bite her back. 

 
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January 8, 2008, 1:35 pm PST

I Was Bullied

Until I learned how to stand up for myself, I was bullied in school. I cried myself to sleep many nights. As far as the woman who posted a tasteless joke, I think she should be held accountable for her actions. It is reprehensible and I think the woman has a serious problem. Thank God I don't live in her area.
 
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January 8, 2008, 1:36 pm PST

cyber bullies

It is very sad that his young lady made the dicision to end her life, But I'm sorry the accountability rest soley on the parents for breaking my-space rules and allowing a 13 year old to have an account. my space rules require you to be 14 to have an account. So if the rules would have been followed, would this tragedy been prevented??? According to Dr. Phil and the mother    YES.  But can we be sure there wasn't more that drove this girl to this point besides some name calling.  So sad when a young one decides to leave us early, my condolences to the parents, but don't be so quick to point the finger elsewhere.
 
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January 8, 2008, 1:38 pm PST

Wow

  This cyber bullying over Xbox 360 is a problem this man decided to have. With the Xbox system you have the ability to shut off chat and to block users you do not wish to here from.  In referance to this man talking about his children accesing his xbox live account when he is not around is the same as accesing the internet parents are the only people responsible for monitoring there children online if the parent cant do this than internet access should not be in the house. This is a fine example of just another person trying to get somethig for free from microsoft. It is also real disheartening that Dr. Phil has allowed this man to create a problem where there is no problem. Bottom line if you dont want to hear what people have to say on Xbox live you dont have to listen.

 

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January 8, 2008, 1:38 pm PST

FINALLY! Attention is being drawn to this behavior

As the mother of both a 10 & 12 year old I can absolutely, without any shadow of a doubt, agree that some form of legislation/punishment for cyber bullying should be in effect.  At the very least, punishment on a school/local law enforcement level should be in effect.

 

Online services, such as myspace, allow these kids to have the freedom of speech afforded adults in reality.  Speaking first hand on this matter, I can tell you both boys and girls alike can be BRUTAL on myspace.  And let me assure you girls are the worst. 

 

I agreed to let my 12 year old open a myspace account with the agreement that I would have full access to the account at all times and would regularly be monitoring the page's content.  (Understand that I am not blaming myspace here).  This is actually a great way for kids to keep in contact with friends/classmates after, say,  moving to another town or school, etc, WHEN USED PROPERLY!

 

I began to notice a difference in my daughter's behavior from the happy go lucky kid she was to this withdrawn sad girl.  Once I logged in to her account, it was only then that I realized that her so called "friends" where calling her names and encouraging other peers to join in as well and attempting to get several other friends to jump on the bandwagon and ignore her too.  These were kids who not only had been friends with my child for years, but in fact had spent several nights of the previous two weeks, sleeping at MY house!  I WAS FURIOUS!  I proceeded to copy and paste all of their horrible comments into a microsoft word file and prepared them, quite nicely I might say, for email to each of the girls parents.  I then phoned the parents and had them come to my home where the girls were put together to "face and fix" things.

 

My daughter hates that I "invade her privacy", but at the age of 12, she doesn't deserve any yet!  I may be considered over protective, but someone's got to protect them!  These kids don't have to look at the face  of the person they are bullying  or their physical reaction to the ugly comments, only making it easier to continue to inflict the pain of the bullying.

 

As ridiculous as it may sound to some people, this is a very serious matter amongst our preteen/teenage culture and it needs to be monitored by ALL parents.  I am very sorry for this family and what they are going through, but the painful truth of the matter is, is that until there is some sort of accountability enforced on these types of sites, none of these kids are safe from the evils of cyber bullying.

 
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January 8, 2008, 1:39 pm PST

01/08 Cyber Bullies

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This show was so powerful, when I watched the first family speak about their 13 year old daughter I broke out crying.  I am currently in high school  and know how it feels to have hurtful things said to/about you.  I think that bullying is out of control and needs to be stopped.  The only problem is, you can't  do a darn thing about it. 
 Everyone in high school is teased and tormented. Even the one's doing the teasing and tormenting, are getting teased and tormented. They just show it differently. Does that make it right? Nope, not at all. High school was awful for me, and I'm sure a lot of other people on this board will agree it was a rough time for them as well. Just hang in there! Your experiences as a high schooler will not always define how your life will be in the future, and the things said about you, to you, or behind your back have no merit on your life 15 years down the road.
 
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January 8, 2008, 1:39 pm PST

GET REAL! You must not have kids!

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     This is just the way some people are. I think it makes them feel good about themselves by making others feel bad or try to. They must not like themselves-I feel that if they didthey wouldn't want to hurt others. But, on the other hand, we don't need to take what every one else thinks and says about us to heart. We should know ourselves and be confident in who we are. This way when someone does try to tell us that we're fat, ugly, stupid, dumb, etc. - it won't phase us at all because we know who we are and GOD didn't make any one of us like this. Everyone is beautiful, but their ways may not be. Some people just get off on making others feel inferior to them. That's the only control they may have-because they can't control themselves. Just remember, GOD made us all, but we choose to be the way we are...
As adults, I understand that we shouldn't take things to heart or care what people think of us.  But when I read what you wrote, I just kept thinking, you must not have children of your own.  Because if you did you would know that kids (especially girls) take EVERYTHING to heart.  Everything is a life or death situation and what the other kids think of them is the most important thing in the world.  What this woman did to this 14 year old child is criminal and morally appaulling.  She ought to pay legally and financially to the parents of this poor child.  When some girl tells another girl she is fat, ugly, stupid or (worst of all) not popular, that poor girl will do everything she can do to change all of the negative comments that were said about her.  If you haven't heard we're in the year of 2008 and image is everything, especially to girls.  Please lady get a clue!
 
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January 8, 2008, 1:40 pm PST

I WAS A VICTIM!!!

I've been the victim of cyber bullying, and can attest to just how horrible it can really be. It all started when I announced that i wanted to be a nurse to my Social Studies class. For some reason reason, all the
kids started saying that I thought I was "better than everyone else because I wanted to be a nurse". At first, it was just name calling, things like "little nurse cool". But, after a while, they started attacking me thru cyberspace. I started getting pictures of hypodermic needles sent to my email, with the words "I'll be waiting for you". Then, they just started sending the pictures of the hypodermics to my cell phone. I agonized everyday as i walked out the door of the school,expecting to be attacked with a syringe. It was frightening. Later, they found out that the school nurse was in on it. She was providing all the pictures. Now, I go to a different school.
 
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