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Topic : 03/28 When to Call it Quits

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(Original Air Date: 01/09/08) For most couples their home is a peaceful, loving sanctuary away from the outside world. But for Dr. Phil's guests, this couldn't be further from the truth. Jennie and Jeremy's house has turned into a battlefield, where they fight three to five times a day. They have been married for eight years and the only way for them to remain together is by living apart. The arguments have turned so ugly, Jeremy has called the police, and Jennie was arrested for domestic abuse. Why does Jeremy say he fears leaving Jennie home alone with the kids? The Dr. Phil show installed cameras in their home, but why didn't they capture any of the yelling, screaming and cursing? Then, hear Jennie's sisters' emotional pleas, and find out the one thing that Jeremy and Jennie's family can agree on. And, how are the kids affected by the swearing and anger in their home? Is there hope for this family, or should they head to court and finish their divorce proceedings? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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January 9, 2008, 6:58 pm PST

marriage is forever

I watched the show today, and this is a trial that you both will have to get through. Throughout life, and throughout your marriage you will have trials and tests, but be strong, pass those tests.. Yes things may get hard sometimes, but this is the person you love, you have children with this person, you married this person, you vowed to stay together forever, work things out. Life is what you make it, and you both can do your share to make your marriage work.  Try to do extra special things for each other, Jeremy your wife obviously has self esteem issues, do your best to tell her as much as you can how beautiful she is, how much you care about her, things like that.  I know sometimes even when you try to say nice things to her she may not believe you, or take you seriously, but it really does help, deep down, she will know you think she is beautiful.  I think you both are beautiful people inside and out, but your letting your emotions get the best of you.  Try to relax a little, have fun with each other, try to rekindle that spark when you first got together. And Jeremy, like Dr. Phil said, your the man, you need to be the supporter, the protector, and you need to make the steps to make this right.  I wish you both the best of luck. Go home and hug and kiss your children and try to be a happy family, have fun together!

 
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January 9, 2008, 7:19 pm PST

Jeremy

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this is jeremy from the show... thank you for your comment.  I feel bad for jen, because she felt like she was thrown under the bus.  I feel like an eating disorder  clinic might be a necassary step, but I truly fear she will never forgive me if I put her in one.  what approach is affective?

As a person living in recovery from an addiction  for more than 9 years I would like to offer some comments and/or advice.  Any addiction in a family member makes the entire family sick.  You as the nonaddict have a responsibility to your children to give them the healthiest life you can until their mom is in a position to do so also.  I suspect you are very codependent and feel that the only way you can make things better for your wife is to make her life easier and protect her.  Has that worked so far?  No. 

 

Jen will not seek recovery until she is ready and in my opinion the best approach you can take is to stand up and protect your children.  Take care of them and yourself.  The kids and you will benefit from counseling and therapy.  The best thing you can do to help your wife is to show her that you are willing and able to do the "next right thing."  Urge her to seek the treatment she needs.  Tell her you support her and love her but she has to do this to get well.  Don't worry about whether she will forgive you.  Wouldn't you rather have her live and hate you than be dead?  The only person we can change is ourself.  The interesting thing about that is once we begin to change, our loved ones begin to change also. 

 

I don't know what kind of followup Dr. Phil arranged for you, but I hope you take advantage of all of it.  If it is not enough, find more on your own. 

 

Your children need you.  You have a responsibility to them.  Right now, aside from yourself, they are your first priority, not your wife.   Do what needs to be done to protect them.  Don't worry about Jen's reaction.  She is not well, but once she is well, she WILL understand why you did what you had to do. 

 

 

 
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January 9, 2008, 8:39 pm PST

Run Jeremy Run!!!!

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hey. this is jeremy from the show.  I agree with you a hundred percent.  I love my wife with all of my heart, and am very aware that jennie might have a chemical imbalance.  I don't know how to deal with it at all.  she has been prescribed various meds to help correct the problem, and they are extremely efffective.  What I cant figure out is how to motivate her to take it.  I feel that her drive for perfection doesn't allow her to be reliant on a prescription to function on a normal level.  do you have any ideas?
Get out while you can. This is a dangerous situation. If the roles were reversed, You would be in jail for assault & have lost your kids. YOU CAN"T WIN. DR. PHIL Was even wringing his hands.  Her own family does not trust her judgment. Cut your losses. All the medications in the world are not GOING TO HELP THIS MESS. LOVE YOU? She doesn't seem to even LIKE YOU Brother. THINK OF YOUR KIDS & YOUR OWN PERSONAL SAFETY.  I have been through this long ago & counseling did not help because women like this can't stand to be critiqued in any fashion. They don't want your "help" 'cause they think you are root of all her problems. The dread of coming home at the end of day. Think about it. I know you don't want lose her. Think about your own happiness & sanity. This ain't good for the little ones. Nothing you can do will "fix her". This budding affair of hers ....the TRUST IS GONE!! Good luck.
 
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January 9, 2008, 8:47 pm PST

Marriage is Not forever......

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I watched the show today, and this is a trial that you both will have to get through. Throughout life, and throughout your marriage you will have trials and tests, but be strong, pass those tests.. Yes things may get hard sometimes, but this is the person you love, you have children with this person, you married this person, you vowed to stay together forever, work things out. Life is what you make it, and you both can do your share to make your marriage work.  Try to do extra special things for each other, Jeremy your wife obviously has self esteem issues, do your best to tell her as much as you can how beautiful she is, how much you care about her, things like that.  I know sometimes even when you try to say nice things to her she may not believe you, or take you seriously, but it really does help, deep down, she will know you think she is beautiful.  I think you both are beautiful people inside and out, but your letting your emotions get the best of you.  Try to relax a little, have fun with each other, try to rekindle that spark when you first got together. And Jeremy, like Dr. Phil said, your the man, you need to be the supporter, the protector, and you need to make the steps to make this right.  I wish you both the best of luck. Go home and hug and kiss your children and try to be a happy family, have fun together!

There are definately "deal breakers" in a marriage when a man or woman should leave. (before it's too late.)  I can't believe there are still people out there who think once you get married you have to stay no matter what happens. If BOTH parties don't give 110%, the one person trying is just waisting his/her time.

What price do the children pay? They are not always better off if the parents stay together. I hope I have misunderstood your comment, and you don't really think people need to stay no matter what. I feel sorry for anyone who believes they have no choice.

 

 
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January 9, 2008, 9:13 pm PST

01/09 When to Call it Quits

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There are definately "deal breakers" in a marriage when a man or woman should leave. (before it's too late.)  I can't believe there are still people out there who think once you get married you have to stay no matter what happens. If BOTH parties don't give 110%, the one person trying is just waisting his/her time.

What price do the children pay? They are not always better off if the parents stay together. I hope I have misunderstood your comment, and you don't really think people need to stay no matter what. I feel sorry for anyone who believes they have no choice.

 

i guess i just feel like if you took the step of getting married to this person, you took a vow to love and cherish this person forever..You should marry someone you know, someone you truely love and that truely loves you. i understand some people should not be married, but i dont see that being the case here. I think they can work through this. I think they love each other very much, but have problems with themselves, which in turn is causing problems in there relationship. I dont beleive people dont have a choice, but i would really like them to try and work out whatever comes there way. I think people should take marriage more seriously. when i got married,i knew it was a life long commitment. i will do anything in my power to save my marriage if it ever gets that bad. I wish the two of them the best of luck.
 
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January 9, 2008, 9:15 pm PST

WOW

I was watching the show today and "wow" is all I could think.  I can not believe that it took Dr. Phil for them to realize that they are scaring their children and for them to actually confront their problems.  Fighting is a normal part of a relationship but when you are physically attacking others with words and weapons then you need to seriously take a step back and reconsider your position.

The number one rule with children is not to make your problems theirs, they are innocent and very impressionable and the couples behavior was disgusting and unacceptable.

If that woman really makes her daughters diet and run laps because she thinks they are fat she really shouldn't have those beautiful girls until she can get help.

YOU CAN'T HELP ANYONE IF YOU CAN'T HELP YOURSELF!!

 
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January 9, 2008, 9:45 pm PST

Wow is right

All I have to say is take care of yourself! Of course they are fighting every second and she is unhappy... SHE'S HUNGRY! I feel for those little girls. What an unstable and nervous environment to wake up and go to sleep in. I hope that Dr.Phil made a difference for them, but it seemed like she just wasn't ready to step up and make the proper changes she needs to. WOW

 

Oh and I'm frustrated b/c I can't seem to get my photo uploaded... darn it LOL

 
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January 9, 2008, 10:08 pm PST

Solve the problem then divorce

 I have a few things to say...

So it is easy to see the kids are the number one issue here. But they need to solve there problems before getting a divorce i.e anger, eating disorders, trust and jeaslousy. Should they decide on a divorce, the kids will see both parents, and you don't want it to be a play off the kids to get the other parent angry. You need to respect each other so those girls can live a normal healthy life with out their parents using them.
But either way I don't see these two, working out... you could see her anger in the show. They are better off without each other.

As for the comment by the women who wants to be on the Dr Phil show and feels her marriage is worse at 15 plus years. ( Red Text ) You saw what this couple was like, and you cry out for help... these are not the first people to go on the show and get advice. If your situation is worse then you know what is best for you, you don't need a public television show decide that for you. Also it was her family that contacted the show, cause people around you will step in should there be a emergency need to.
 
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January 9, 2008, 11:11 pm PST

She is not in love with him anymore

From what I saw, she's miserable and trying to make the marriage work and going against her own feelings of just not being in love anymore. This couple needs to get a divorce immediately. It doesn't matter what people want, it was clear to me she just doesn't love him anymore and has extreme guilt because she can't make herself feel the love.

I was in this situation once, many years ago, and totally miserable, making myself, him, my family, and everyone else miserable despite my family telling me that he was the perfect man. I tried to continue along, and two weeks before the wedding had the guts to call the wedding off. My family was furious with me and my fiance was furious and hurt, his family was hurt. They said all kinds of things about me, my family tried to make excuses for me, it was just terrible..However, 36 years later, I am still married to the man I WAS/AM  in love with. It's so easy when you're both so much in love and you both see life the same way, but it's total hell when just one of you are not. Counseling is fine for some, but if the love's not there and you love somebody else, the best money in the world can't counsel it away.

It is clear she has an eating disorder, however, she will have a better chance for success with someone whom she loves and loves her back. The children will settle down when the parents get settled down and away from each other.

As for the children, I believe Dr. Phil says it best: It's better to be FROM a broken home, then IN a broken home. Staying married at all costs is a very dangerous concept to expect anyone to follow.

 

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January 10, 2008, 12:36 am PST

01/09 When to Call it Quits

I have been married for 20 years and let me tell you that 2 years into our marriage my husband was cheating and lying to me.  I found out becasue I came home early from work one day and the other woman was there. I was just going to call it quits I did not want to live the rest of my married life like this we were always fighting it was awful.  But then I had to remember that I had 1 little boy at the time he was 18months and I thought to myself I was always going to have to see my husband because we did have a child together.  I really gave it some thought and we were separated for 6 months. I talked to my husband and we went and got counseling and really worked on our marriage. And now I am so happy I did we have the best marriage we have 2 other girls now and my husband is just the best and the best father to our children.  So I think if you really do still love each other try and work it out,  but if you don't have any feelings for each other then just call it quits.  The children are the ones suffering from all of this
 
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