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Created on : Thursday, January 10, 2008, 08:23:49 am
Author : bardofely
Persistent contrails, which spread out forming cloud cover, are often called chemtrails by millions of people worldwide who are seriously worried about their health being endangered by the falling particles and toxic substances said to be in these trails. Barium and aluminum in amounts above normal levels have been found in water samples taken in areas where these trails have been sighted. Many people are reporting symptoms that could be caused by poisoning by barium. People are very worried!

The authorities and mainstream media have been strangely silent on the matter although the Discovery Channel has covered the subject and several other televised reports have been made in the US and Germany.

However, the Internet is full of websites devoted to the subject of chemtrails and countless videos are on display on YouTube. Many people are taking photos and showing these on their personal sites at places like Myspace. Do a Google search for "chemtrails" and thousands of results will be found.

Many theories have been put forward including the idea that the trails are part of a project to stop global warming by adding sunscreen particles to the atmosphere, that the metallic particles said to be in these trails are being used for military purposes, that the trails are part of weather modification experiments and programs and even that a sinister depopulation project is underway.

Because the matter is not being addressed by the mainstream media it is making people even more suspicious of the true nature of these trails. I think that it would be a great idea for Dr Phil to report on the subject.



 
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January 10, 2008, 2:19 pm PST

Clarify please...

 Are you talking about vapor trails that aircraft leave behind in their flight path?

If so, this is not an insidious plot to poison people. It's a consequence of air travel that needs to be addressed. I don't see a discontinuation of air service any time soon.
 
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January 10, 2008, 2:36 pm PST

Chemtrails are for real, and it's about time people learned about them!

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 Are you talking about vapor trails that aircraft leave behind in their flight path?

If so, this is not an insidious plot to poison people. It's a consequence of air travel that needs to be addressed. I don't see a discontinuation of air service any time soon.

Chemtrails are NOT vapor trails. They are CHEMTRAILS. They are different.

 

If you want to learn about them, the best way is to google Chemtrail. They appear some days (when the planes are spraying), as long, thick white streams of exhaust from planes--military and commercial. On the no-spray days, you will just see your regular "contrail" exhaust from the planes, the kind that goes away in a few seconds and is short in length--like you saw as a kid when you watched!

 

Commercial pilots are spraying chemtrails--for the government. We don't know why they are being sprayed, but there are many guesses as to the reasons, all of which you can read on the Internet.

 

We do know, however, that they contain dangerous chemicals, are being sprayed intentionally, and are affecting people's health. Unfortunately, most people just take them as "contrails" as they are not used to Man interfering with the clouds in the sky--it is a rather unbelievable event.

 

Chemtrails turn into clouds over time, thin, sometimes spiral shaped, FAKE clouds that once you are aware of their appearance, you can easily recognize and distinguish from real clouds.

 

The government, news stations, politicians, etc. will deny their existence, but when enough people see what is going on, they won't be able to deny it any longer. Please do some research and see for yourself.
 
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January 10, 2008, 2:59 pm PST

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Chemtrails are NOT vapor trails. They are CHEMTRAILS. They are different.

 

If you want to learn about them, the best way is to google Chemtrail. They appear some days (when the planes are spraying), as long, thick white streams of exhaust from planes--military and commercial. On the no-spray days, you will just see your regular "contrail" exhaust from the planes, the kind that goes away in a few seconds and is short in length--like you saw as a kid when you watched!

 

Commercial pilots are spraying chemtrails--for the government. We don't know why they are being sprayed, but there are many guesses as to the reasons, all of which you can read on the Internet.

 

We do know, however, that they contain dangerous chemicals, are being sprayed intentionally, and are affecting people's health. Unfortunately, most people just take them as "contrails" as they are not used to Man interfering with the clouds in the sky--it is a rather unbelievable event.

 

Chemtrails turn into clouds over time, thin, sometimes spiral shaped, FAKE clouds that once you are aware of their appearance, you can easily recognize and distinguish from real clouds.

 

The government, news stations, politicians, etc. will deny their existence, but when enough people see what is going on, they won't be able to deny it any longer. Please do some research and see for yourself.

 Thanks for your reply explaining the situation further.
 
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January 11, 2008, 9:07 am PST

Proof

 OK, I googled chemtrails.
Let me ask you something, have you tried verifying these so-called toxic chemicals for yourself, or are you just falling for this because you read it on the internet?
I'm sure you can find some inexpensive testing equipment to test this allegation. In fact, you could go to your nearest high school and have a student look into it for their annual science fair exhibit if you don't feel like doing it yourself.

I wouldn't put much credence in this until I saw proof. The information being disseminated seems more "inciteful" than "insightful" to me.
 
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January 11, 2008, 9:34 am PST

Chentrails are a concern for countless people

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 OK, I googled chemtrails.
Let me ask you something, have you tried verifying these so-called toxic chemicals for yourself, or are you just falling for this because you read it on the internet?
I'm sure you can find some inexpensive testing equipment to test this allegation. In fact, you could go to your nearest high school and have a student look into it for their annual science fair exhibit if you don't feel like doing it yourself.

I wouldn't put much credence in this until I saw proof. The information being disseminated seems more "inciteful" than "insightful" to me.
 No, I haven't! I am not a chemist and don't need to do this but others have. The amount of evidence for the reality of chemtrails and the harm they cause is enough for me. People don't need tests to be done on some samples to know if they are ill and have been made that way since these trails started appearing in the skies regularly. There are lots of people who are chronically ill in areas where there are lots of these trails on a regular basis and the illnesses they are suffering are consistent with symptoms of barium poisoning. Same goes for aluminum which has been connected with Alzheimer's disease, which more and more people are getting! Where I live I have observed several times that when we have clear normal skies people are genearlly well but when we have chemtrails the a 'flu bug' starts going around and many people go down with it! I can join the dots on this. If you research the info on chemtrails you will find that a "flu-like illness" and upper respiratory disease are amongst the symptoms being attributed to exposure to chemtrails. Tinnitus is another disease being caused by chemtrails and so are sinus problems. I have suffered with both and had not done so until these trails became a regular feature in the skies. That is a story thousands of others would agree on - they never had specific illnesses until the sky where they live became regularly covered with these trails.
 
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January 11, 2008, 12:22 pm PST

check the patents and THEN decide

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 Are you talking about vapor trails that aircraft leave behind in their flight path?

If so, this is not an insidious plot to poison people. It's a consequence of air travel that needs to be addressed. I don't see a discontinuation of air service any time soon.

Dear Emote,  You are uninformed. Check these patents and then decide if you think there are sinister USES....

 

"Still further, plumes in accordance with the present invention can be formed to simulate and/or perform the same functions as performed by the detonation of a "heave" type nuclear device without actually having to detonate such a device. Thus it can be seen that the ramifications are numerous, far-reaching, and exceedingly varied in usefulness."



This is all directly quoted from one of the patents below : which, by the way call of loading the atmosphere with particulate matter.

http://patft. uspto.gov/ netacgi/nph- Parser?Sect1= PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml% 2FPTO%2Fsrchnum. htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4,686,605. PN.&OS=PN/4,686, 605&RS=PN/4,686, 605
 
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January 11, 2008, 12:25 pm PST

proof

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 No, I haven't! I am not a chemist and don't need to do this but others have. The amount of evidence for the reality of chemtrails and the harm they cause is enough for me. People don't need tests to be done on some samples to know if they are ill and have been made that way since these trails started appearing in the skies regularly. There are lots of people who are chronically ill in areas where there are lots of these trails on a regular basis and the illnesses they are suffering are consistent with symptoms of barium poisoning. Same goes for aluminum which has been connected with Alzheimer's disease, which more and more people are getting! Where I live I have observed several times that when we have clear normal skies people are genearlly well but when we have chemtrails the a 'flu bug' starts going around and many people go down with it! I can join the dots on this. If you research the info on chemtrails you will find that a "flu-like illness" and upper respiratory disease are amongst the symptoms being attributed to exposure to chemtrails. Tinnitus is another disease being caused by chemtrails and so are sinus problems. I have suffered with both and had not done so until these trails became a regular feature in the skies. That is a story thousands of others would agree on - they never had specific illnesses until the sky where they live became regularly covered with these trails.
"Still further, plumes in accordance with the present invention can be formed to simulate and/or perform the same functions as performed by the detonation of a "heave" type nuclear device without actually having to detonate such a device. Thus it can be seen that the ramifications are numerous, far-reaching, and exceedingly varied in usefulness."

This is all directly quoted from one of the patents below: these patents REQUIRE particles in the air. These missions are Top Secret, and so the EPA etc. will not comment.

http://patft. uspto.gov/ netacgi/nph- Parser?Sect1= PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml% 2FPTO%2Fsrchnum. htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4,686,605. PN.&OS=PN/4,686, 605&RS=PN/4,686, 605
 
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January 11, 2008, 12:30 pm PST

proof

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 Thanks for your reply explaining the situation further.

Yes, there is PLENTY of proof to those who have the strength and courage to research a phenomena which their Government denies (like Agent Orange, Gulf War Syndrome, and countless other diseases which after years of pressure by WE THE PEOPLE - the  Government admitted they caused.)

 

Read these patents, and decide for yourself.

Note: these patents require particulate, reflective matter in the ionosphere, magnetosphere and atmosphere.



http://patft. uspto.gov/ netacgi/nph- Parser?Sect1= PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml% 2FPTO%2Fsrchnum. htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4,686,605. PN.&OS=PN/4,686, 605&RS=PN/4,686, 605
 
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January 11, 2008, 12:33 pm PST

PLENTY OF PROOF if you SEARCH

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 OK, I googled chemtrails.
Let me ask you something, have you tried verifying these so-called toxic chemicals for yourself, or are you just falling for this because you read it on the internet?
I'm sure you can find some inexpensive testing equipment to test this allegation. In fact, you could go to your nearest high school and have a student look into it for their annual science fair exhibit if you don't feel like doing it yourself.

I wouldn't put much credence in this until I saw proof. The information being disseminated seems more "inciteful" than "insightful" to me.

 

First of all, sorry I called you Emote (I am new to this discussion today, and thought the mood indicator box was your name!)...

 

Yes, there is PLENTY of proof to those who have the strength and courage to research a phenomena which their Government denies (like Agent Orange, Gulf War Syndrome, and countless other diseases which after years of pressure by WE THE PEOPLE - the  Government admitted they caused.)

 

Read these patents, and decide for yourself.

Note: these patents require particulate, reflective matter in the ionosphere, magnetosphere and atmosphere.



http://patft. uspto.gov/ netacgi/nph- Parser?Sect1= PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml% 2FPTO%2Fsrchnum. htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4,686,605. PN.&OS=PN/4,686, 605&RS=PN/4,686, 605

 
 
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January 11, 2008, 12:38 pm PST

PLENTY OF PROOF of CHEMTRAILS

Yes, there is PLENTY of proof to those who have the strength and courage to research a phenomena which their Government denies (like Agent Orange, Gulf War Syndrome, and countless other diseases which after years of pressure by WE THE PEOPLE - the  Government admitted they caused.)

 

Dennis Kucinich used the word CHEMTRAILS in a bill he brought before the House and Congress in an attempt to control SPACE WEAPONS. google it. Kucinich, chemtrails.  Since the program is global and top secret the Governments of the World have changed the term to AEROSOL SPRARING.

 

Read these patents, and decide for yourself.

Note: these patents require particulate, reflective matter in the ionosphere, magnetosphere and atmosphere.



http://patft. uspto.gov/ netacgi/nph- Parser?Sect1= PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml% 2FPTO%2Fsrchnum. htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4,686,605. PN.&OS=PN/4,686, 605&RS=PN/4,686, 605

 
 
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