Topic : 01/15 Internet Mistakes

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Created on : Friday, January 11, 2008, 01:03:06 pm
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Girls dancing on bars half-naked, passed out on the beach, hugging the porcelain … these are photos posted for all to see on the Web site Facebook, in a group called Thirty Reasons a Girl Should Call it a Night. These shocking and provocative pictures are supposedly submitted by the women in the photos themselves. The women say they love to have fun, and this is a way to bond with other girls just like them. But are there unforeseen consequences to letting the public behold you at your worst? Dr. Phil speaks with women on both sides of this debate. Jasmine is the moderator for the group Thirty Reasons and says, although she’s responsible for taking down questionable photos, she hasn’t found one yet! Amanda and Norma are incensed that women would degrade themselves in this way. Hear from the president of a company who uses Web sites like Facebook and MySpace to weed out potential employees. Could documenting your good time on the Internet become your biggest regret? Then, a teen who loves to drink says criticism of Thirty Reasons just reinforces the double standard of gender inequality. What do Dr. Phil and the teen’s mother think? Plus, a mayor’s sexy photo has her town’s residents outraged. And, meet a substitute teacher who says he was unfairly fired from his job two times for what’s on his MySpace page. Share your thoughts here.

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January 15, 2008, 10:08 am PST

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My son learned the hard way about just how public Face book is.  They created a private group with a password for members and they trash talked their employer.  It was the kind of conversation you would have about your boss sitting around the lunch room or a cup of coffee.  They got carried away and said things that perhaps they shouldn't have.  He was using this job to pay for his college.  His employer somehow was able to access the site and decided to make an example of him.  They took one employee form each of the 8 stores and made an example of them.  In many cases the person they choose was one of their best employees.  These kids were fired from their jobs and threatened with legal action.  These kids were then faced with having to explain this to their potential employer.  My son was fortunate to find someone who was able to look past this and give him another chance.  These kids have no idea just how public this information is, nor do they have any idea who is looking at it or who downloads the information for future use. 
 
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January 15, 2008, 10:16 am PST

MySpace Accounts

When I first heard of My Space I thought from all I was hearing it was bad news.  But I do have an account now and I have one pic of me baking in the kitchen while holding one of my babies.  That shows me in my usual mode as busy  mom.

 

I was going to blog on there about some of my passions (father's rights, divorce law reform, etc.) but I am too busy typing on this forum daily, LOL.  

 

What I have on my MySpace account would not make anyone reject me as their scout leader, employee, babysitter, etc.  It is completely tasteful.  I have thought I maybe would cancel it b/c I get request for friends on there from perverts that I have to report. 

 

I don't think I will let my kids have a MySpace account based on all I have seen and heard about them.  

 

My brother is a principal of a high school and he frequently checks out MySpace to check on the activities of his students.  A lot of their activities take place at school and he has been called to testify against students from  his school that have gang affiliations and those affiliations have been documented through their MySpace accounts.

 

You'd be surprised what these kids put up on the internet and how much they reveal about themselves and their friends.

 

I frequently look for my babysitter on there b/c he has house sat for me and watches the kids so I want to see if he has anything up that would make me doubt his ability to care for the kids while I step out.

 
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January 15, 2008, 10:29 am PST

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What?  I know people take nude pics for their husbands, boyfriends or whatever.  I don't that is a good idea as I once accidentally stumbled across a website that some guy started when he broke up with a girl and it had nude pics of his ex on there and all his ex's since that ex and he invited other men to put up naked shots of their ex's on his site.  I am sure that is not what these girls had in mind when they took the pics. 

 

I don't think you have to be in the adult entertainment business to take a pic and give it to someone you love, however I would not do that myself.  I'd be afraid of who else might accidentally see it.  My nudity is for one man's eyes only (okay the doctor once in a while when I have to) and I am sure only my husband sees me b/c it is live and in the flesh.

 

Yes, her picture was not all that distasteful.  It was a nice picture of her, she is a beautiful woman with very nice muscles in her arms.  She can be proud of how gorgeous she is.  And it looks like a swimsuit.  But this is not how we typically see our co-workers no matter how nice looking they may be or if it is as modest as a swim suit or not. 

 

The real question is if she posted the pic or not.  If  she did then I would question her judgment.  It's not a matter of if a naked or half-naked pic of her exists.

 

Wow, you totally made me out to be a prude and I am not, I just don't leave a digital footprint!

OK fair enough sorry I took your post wrong.

I just don't understand if it had been a swim suit are you saying she shouldn't have posted it.  I post pics online to share with family (none like that) (i do agree it was wrong of her to post a pic like that but I am also torn on this issue).

But I always just wonder how far people are going to go and were is that line.  I know there is a public forum out there and that we choose it.  But some times people are different online that they are in person.  I wouldn't be the same in person as I am on line.  On line I talk about a lot of things I don't talk about in person. (some marriage stuff, faith, and debating other stuff)

I understand keeping up with the times but I feel there is a line with judging people from something on line. I do I wish I could put my fingur on it but I can't.  but you are right shouldn't have posted that pic, but at the same time I think a recall after her being mayor for three years is sad.  because unless she is doing a bad job she should keep doing what she's doing.

I mean Look how crazy everyone got over clinton and monica thing.  why do we care so much what happens in other peoples homes.
 
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January 15, 2008, 10:40 am PST

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I'm a music lover of all sorts. I believe it's an artistic way to express your emotions, feelings and beliefs. Without words your instrument of choice can release expressions from a person that might otherwise have gone unheard. With that said, I was curious as to if the "substitute teacher" played Harry Connick, Jr., or Frank Sinatra, or even Cher related music, would it be alright posting his MySpace.com website? I believe the Teacher has every right to write whatever type of music inspires him. Slash, Marylin Manson, Korn, and even Madonna are incredibly talented, gifted genious' in their respective right. Selling millions of copies of their CD's, concert tickets and memorabilia, they reached out to millions of fans. Just curious as if it was his choice of music, or just music in general.

 
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January 15, 2008, 10:50 am PST

01/15 Internet Mistakes

Quote From: kleesun

THat's the point here--the corporations are policing private lives, as well.

Or are we only allowed to have private lives behind locked doors and black-out curtains in our own homes?  Will they next want my phone records and personal email log-ins so they can see if I have contacted any controversial people or organizations?

I use MySpace to network with musicans and college friends.  That IS my private life.  I do not bring my private life into the office and I would appreciate it if my employers would, in turn, leave their professional expectations out of my personal space (at home and online).

I was going to say the exact same thing you said. I personally don't think that employers or corporations should look into the employee's (or future employees) private lives such as Myspace or Facebook as well. That's a violation of privacy. Can't they be sued for that if they (Employees) found out? It should have nothing to do with their jobs that are affecting them, or for those who are trying to apply. Just because they post some things on the Internet inappropriately, doesn't mean that they'll carry it on into the workplace.

 

I do feel bad for Mary, because she has no idea on what she's getting herself into. And Amanda isn't helping matters any by calling her names & degrading her.

 
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January 15, 2008, 11:09 am PST

I am with you on that

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OK fair enough sorry I took your post wrong.

I just don't understand if it had been a swim suit are you saying she shouldn't have posted it.  I post pics online to share with family (none like that) (i do agree it was wrong of her to post a pic like that but I am also torn on this issue).

But I always just wonder how far people are going to go and were is that line.  I know there is a public forum out there and that we choose it.  But some times people are different online that they are in person.  I wouldn't be the same in person as I am on line.  On line I talk about a lot of things I don't talk about in person. (some marriage stuff, faith, and debating other stuff)

I understand keeping up with the times but I feel there is a line with judging people from something on line. I do I wish I could put my fingur on it but I can't.  but you are right shouldn't have posted that pic, but at the same time I think a recall after her being mayor for three years is sad.  because unless she is doing a bad job she should keep doing what she's doing.

I mean Look how crazy everyone got over clinton and monica thing.  why do we care so much what happens in other peoples homes.

Her pic wasn't that bad.  You are correct, where is the line?  If someone reads your blog and finds out you feel a certain way on politics then they may not hire you b/c they don't agree with you. Also, they can check out your faith, etc if you post it.  Then they know things before you are hired that they are not supposed to be able to ask.  That is the slippery slope in all of this.

 

This conversation though is really about having what most of us consider to be inappropriate things on line about yourself.  Once the boss knows it, it is going to impact you at work.  And if the clients know about it, that isn't going to be good either. 

 

It's almost like we have created a Big Brother that watches us.  If we turn that camera in on ourselves we will be sorry for putting all of ourselves out into the world.  I know none of us are perfect in every way, but in the work place you don't know all that personal stuff.  I think it would be distracting for some people if they knew their co-worker was an online personality of some kind.  In fact, if I worked with someone and they had drunken photos up on the net, I'd seriously raise an eyebrow anytime they ran late for work.

 

As for the swimsuit question...I don't know if it were a swimsuit pic if I would post that either as the Mayor.  I guess as Mayor I would not want to promote my sexual image but rather my intellectual image.  I think b/c she is attractive and successful that is going to be the cause of a witch hunt against her and that is the sad part.  I just think she should not have put it up even if it were a swimsuit b/c that can only draw attention that she does not need.  It wasn't a good thing for her above all else.  I mean, my gosh, she is mayor, that is impressive. 

 

Maybe her town will decide the pics were modest enough not to justify removing her from her office.  I believe in second chances in most cases.  So, I think now that it has drawn attention then take it down.  On the other hand this small town could really make this work for them if they played it for publicity for a while.  But that would be sending a mixed message about being a successful woman, I think.

 

Her pic was pretty modest and I may be second guessing if I'd vote for her a second time or not now.  It would depend on her performance in office and also how big a disruption this was and the potential for it to repeat itself.

 

I am from Houston where one of the city council women is an "out of the closet transgendered person".  I remember that being a big news story years ago.  Now, if you hadn't been there when it hit the airwaves you wouldn't know the difference.  "She" has been re-elected I don't know how many times, so her precinct must like "her".  So, my point is maybe after all the buzz dies down the Mayor will keep her job and the people will be satisfied with her.  I think it depends what kind of town it is.  If they are a really conservative town they may push to remove her.  I think you have to keep who you work for in mind when you put yourself in the public light.

 

Monica and Bill, haven't heard those names in so long.  I was so tired of that story back then.  I don't know who was more tired of it me or Hillary.

 

 
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January 15, 2008, 11:26 am PST

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I'm trying to figure out why some people are blasting the establishment for using what they can to get what they perceive is the best fit for their company.  Gimme a break people and help me clear up some confusion in my head.  IS there "private" life when you spread it publicly around the world on the internet?  What is private about that?   Where does private life stop and "public" life begin?  As for the substitute teacher.  YOU have the right to post and play whatever music you so choose.... and the school board has the right to determine what type of individual they want to PAY to work with their children.  What is so hard to understand about that?  Just because you are an "artist" doesn't give you a free pass in the world which says everyone has to want you employed in their district.  If you had a disability that was no "fault" of your own or a characteristic that was "not a choice" that was made, then I would be the first to stand up and say "They can't do that to you!!"  But you have rights and so do they under these particular circumstances.     Guess I'm just getting pretty tired of seeing self-seeking attention getters whining about their lot in life. 
 
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January 15, 2008, 12:01 pm PST

They need to know...

                            These girls need to know that there future needs to be thought about. They are not thinking clearly.Someday,they may choose to go into a profession that requires a background check.I don't care how much money you may have or your daddy has.You can't hide from your past especially if it is on the internet!! So, I hope these girls understand that good times now need to be in private.In these days we have to be on guard....Act like ladies!!
 
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January 15, 2008, 12:06 pm PST

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Quote From: tresa44nsc

I feel that posting your personal life on the internet should effect your chances for possible emloyment with a company because it may ,in the long run, effect the company.  Keep your private life private.

I totally agree.

 If you are so immature to think that partying until you puke is cool and then taking pictures of  this event to post on the Internet,   then you are not  "employee worthy".    I know  I don't want to work with potential co workers, who have no idea, what is appropriate or inappropriate behavior.

 
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January 15, 2008, 12:28 pm PST

01/15 Internet Mistakes

I being an 19 year old girl, can see both sides of this arguement. A night of drinking can go bad, and end up with sickness and such, as being talked about. Obviously, this is not a good thing and when drinking, you don't want this to happen. However, sometimes these times can be funny, but there can be a line with what actually occurs.

 

However, guys can go out and get drunk and end up sick, and its funny, no one ever says it is not funny, unless its extremely dangerous. How come women can become sick after drinking, leading to circumstances they obviously cant control, and they are seen as a "whore," when guys can have sex or attempt to have sex when they are drunk, and they are just being themselves, this is incorrect.

 

I do not agree with posting pictures of this, however, with the media being what it is today, that will happen, so we must all deal with it because it is not just on facebook girls are being shown these ideas.

 

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