Topic : 01/15 Internet Mistakes

When did it become okay to be happy and proud of yourself so out of control, your are passed out and have been written on. Is it fun for everyone else when you do this YES, is it fun for you NO. How can anyone wake up the next day after a full night of partying and say, yep thats the real me and I'm proud of that. I think most of the country has had those really wild nights, and yes they were fun while you were doing it but come on most hang there heads down for days about what they did. I don't think I have ever been proud of one of those nights, yes I did have fun but I wouldn't want people to judge me for those nights. and I honestly try and not have to many of those nights.

 

Maybe someone here can explain to me what there is to be proud of.

 

And the 17 year old girl on the show just made me so sad. She has no real idea what she is doing to herself with all that drinking, and the fact she sat there and said she is proud of what she does, shows how immature she really is.

  I totally agree with DAMACHELLE67's  reply of: [[[Where are these parents? I am a mother of 4 teenagers/young adults. I have 3 children in college and another on his way this year. They are by no means perfect. I'm sure like any other teenager they have gone to parties and gotten drunk. However, if my 17 year old CHILD ever posted pictures like these girls have, or been seriously injured as a direct result of drinking and then later thrown in jail, they would not see the light of day for months. There would be no more computer (except for schoolwork and with my supervision) there would be no car and there would be no going out. I'm sorry these parents need to step up and parent, not be their friends. This mother of the 17 year old girl made a comment that she did not approve of her daughter saying those things about the other girl on the computer. What did she do about it? She sat there in the audience acting as if she had no control over what her minor child did in her house?!!! I don't understand what these parents are thinking. Computers, cars, going out, these things are privileges that are earned. Try taking away some of these privileges and maybe these parents will gain some control over these OUT OF CONTROL teens.]]]]]]

 

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"What Were They Thinking?!"     These girls in my opinion  #1  have absolutely NO SELF-ESTEEM AT ALL!   #2  They have not one clue of modesty or decorum which I was raised with and #3   quite frankly   if I had acted like that much less posted pics of it on today's so-frequently viewed technology internet the way they have,  needless to say with my father having been in the U.S. Marines and the way I was raised,  I wouldn't even have a bottom today.  He would have clearly beaten this behavior out of me!    What these girls are doing is deplorable.  Who do they think they are, Britney's competition, or something?  And as far as the Minors who are drinking  issue goes,   That mother should clearly sign her daughter into a therapy site immediately for counseling and help.  Or one day soon, since this child, yes, child of 17 could clearly end up date-raped, pregnant or dead!   Mom!   WAKE UP!     You are being very evasive in how you are handling your daughter!  If my daughter ever acted like that,  we'd have both signed her into a treatment facility!      As far as this club's mantra of "well,  we're doing it, and whatever we do shouldn't be hidden"    -     I can well understand their premise for this BUT what they don't understand is the damage it's doing to them in the long-run as far as credibility,  mental behaviors,  psychological damage, and Lord only knows the kind of men their behavior will invite.  I truly understand also where these girls are coming from that they shouldn't be afraid to 'fess up'  whenever they do something not so tasteful or to be "pure in heart" with both the bad and the good but this is real life and you young ladies are in the formative years of your lives. There's an old adage that goes: "Pretty is as pretty does."   That's how I was raised in the South.   My Grandmother taught me that.  She was a Sunday School teacher.   Between her, my mother, my Marine daddy and some good teachers and some at a church I went to,  I never got locked up,  never was around people like that and even when I turned 18 then 21 and was dating,  you gotta remember this was back in the '70's even when one of my dates was with one of my "beaus"  and we happened to be at one of the parties at the Kappa Alpha party when all of a sudden we saw the "Streakers"  next door at the next Frat house in their front yard!   Needless to say, WE WERE MORTIFIED!  Our dates quickly ushered us young ladies into our frat house and our party continued inside til the police arrived!    Times have changed.   Nowadays,  you kids seem to not know the meaning of the words decorum and modesty, much less moderation.  These were clearly good words to raise kids by in MY DAY!     My advice to you "young women"   is this:   "Get your SELVES together,  concentrate on your studies,  remove these GAWD-AWFUL pix immediately from this site and straighten up and fly right!    I truly feel for all your parents.  I hope they have enough $$'s to deal with all you future calamities and I sure wouldn't want to hear what the Judges have to say to you girls! 

 

The problem with these topics is that all Dr Phil did was give more people the knowledge that it was out there.  I could care less if you want to post these types of pics as long as it's YOUR picture and not one from a friend who you decided to embarras.  People are entitled to do what they want and if posting pics of themselves passed out drunk is something they enjoy then leave them alone.  If it bites them in the ass at a later date that's their own fault.  My problem is that like thousands of others, the first thing I did was sign up fo facebook and check out the site of both guests.  This is the best kind of advertising for these sites and they love it.  If you want to help deter others from following suit.  DON'T HELP THEM ADVERTISE!

Why didn't  Mary's mother Pam  immediately discontinue internet access for her out of control daughter? Since this child is so immature and irresponsible and lacking in judgement, as well as detrimental to herself, it is a no brainer that she should not be on a computer.

 

Unfortunately I can answer this one myself.  Heaven forbid a parent should actually set a limit on her child!  In this day and age it is more important to be a pal than to be a parent, so let's not offend our children by exerting any authority.

I have never posted before but  I have been a long time fan of Dr. Phil since his first daysI and just had to put in my two cents.  . 

 

What is so cool about being obliterated to the point of  unconsciousness?  Even if one doesn't post pictures for the world to see.  Why would you want to emulate friends with deplorable behaviors like this and then think its cool?  These kids have no clue as  what can and does happen to females in this state of intoxication.  Doesn't say much for their values either. 

 

Where are the parents?  My two daughters would have been grounded for life had they ever pulled anything like this.  I should add that they were never grounded for anything.  We always new excatly where they were, who they were with, and what they were doing.  Plus they were always home when they said they would be.  I also didn't have any problem checking to see what they were doing on-line and who they were doing it with!  My daughters dropped so called friends like hot potatoes if they learned of behaviors such as that portrayed by these girls on this particular program . 

 

Then there is the ARROGANCE about underage drinking snd drinking in general.  Although the following first incident wasn't underage it shows how the invincible side of young people  shows.  On Dec 31, this past news years eve,  in Toledo, OH, a 24 year old left a bar after partying with relatives.  It was about 10:30 PM.  His family had made plans to stay and the hotel next door to the bar and within easy crawling distance.  This fellow decides he is going home which was about 35 miles away.  He gets in his brothers vehicle and stops at a nearby fast food place where the observant employees detected that he was DUI and tried to detain him until the police arrived.  Unfortunately he left before the police got there.  Three minutes later he is driving the wrong way on the nearby interstate and crashes head on into a minivan traveling from the Detroit area back to their home state of Maryland.  Four kids under age 10 dead, one was 16 months old.  Also killed instantly was the kids mother.  Three other passenges were taken to the hospital and somehow survived.  The 24 year old had a cut on his chin and walked away.  Later DUI testing found the driver to be 0.24, three times the legal limit in Ohio.   Toledo Police stated that this was the worst crash in the existance of the police department. 

 

Then if the first crash wasn't bad enough to raise some awareness of DUI in the local area, 10 days later a 20 year female driving the wrongway on a different portion of the same interstate in the early morning hours hit a vehicle occupied by one individual .  Fortunately that victim managed to avoid a head-on collision but was hit none the less.  This victim survived and spent a number of days in the hospital.   The 20 year old tested at 0.18 and also had a 19 year old pasenger that had been drinking.  The 19 year which had fled the scene was captured and arrested for disorderly. 

 

The connection of this to the beginning of my post is that the 20 year old female also had her My Space page in which she is seen laughingly chugging a bottle of wiskey straight out of the bottle.  Makes one wonder just how much invincibility these kids think they have?  Hopefully she didn't get much sympathy from viewers when the news media showed her standing by the police car in tears.     She certainly didn't get any from me.

FROM STATE LEVEL SECURITY FOR SCHOOLS/EDUCATORS LECTURE & NOTES

• The threats present in today’s information-driven society are as numerous as they are dangerous    

• Conversely, security against these threats has not kept pace with the threats themselves in society at large

• Awareness of threats will significantly enhance cyber security and simple prevention will enhance it exponentially

• Cyber security is not just the concern of legal agencies, and business, companies, industry, etc, it is a concern for all people in the digital age, and particularly those trusted with safeguarding their families.

• What is Spyware/There is No Privacy Online

  Any software using someone's internet connection in the background without their knowledge or explicit permission, typically intended to monitor target computer activity

• Protect your computer from Internet intruders – use firewalls/filters as needed with parental controls...

• Be a secure and responsible cyber citizen.

Teen Hacks $84 Billion Filter

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/25/1258257

 

Teens & Internet Filters
http://www.imediaconnection.com/content/5332.asp

 

Protecting Teens Online

http://www.pewinternet.org/pdfs/PIP_Filters_Report.pdf

 

Teens Struggle with Accidental Pornography Exposures Online
Exposurehttp://www.publicradio.org/columns/futuretense/2005/02/07.shtml

I can't tell you how any times I uttered words like "if they wouldn't hire me because of that, then I don't want that job anyway," when I was 17.  I thought I was being moralisic and strong.  What I didn't count on was MY values changing firstly, and secondly that I actually didn't want the jobs that thought that behaviour was o.k.  Because those were places like Burger King and McDonalds and they hire 90% students so they understand that imaturity comes with the package.  They also expect staff to come and go quickly.  We are trying to stop you making mistakes that we know from experience can kick you in the butt later.

Are you really serious here?  I see absolutely NO reason to feel sorry for this 17 year old girl's mother in ANY WAY when she's OBVIOUSLY lost ALL control over her daughter & enabling her in the worst of ways!  ADHD or not, she's ALLOWING her underage daughter to get so s**t-faced drunk where she's already ended up in a coma, as well as spent the night in the "drunk-tank", & just brushes it off like it's yesterday's coffee grounds!  Boy, her parents should be so proud! And that's only the things that we were told about,  I'm sure that there's MUCH more that's gone on - there's NO DOUBT in my mind!  She just doesn't see any problem with her daughter's actions - or her OWN for that matter!  She just sat there making excuses over & over for everything, which I find appalling! She should be completely ashamed of both herself as a "mother" as well as her daughter & both of their actions!  What if she would have ended up dead instead of "just" in a coma?  Maybe then she'd open her eyes to her daughter's self destructive behavior, oh, but it would be just too little too late by then wouldn't it?  Not to mention her OWN atrocious behavior!  This woman should lose complete custody of ALL of her children immediately!  I also suffer from extreme ADHD & I'll tell you one thing, firstly, I've NEVER used my condition as an excuse for anything!  Secondly, I'd NEVER just sit back & allow my own child (or anyone else's if they were under my care!)  to end up in a coma, nor in the "drunk tank" due to their irresponsible binge drinking!  They wouldn't have access to liquor - period!  ADHD has absolutely NOTHING to do with either one of their behaviors! OPEN YOUR EYES!  I can't believe you would even post this on here! I mean I do understand about having ADHD, but then she should be in treatment - under a doctor's care - NOT getting wasted wherever she turns up! Oh, & I'm sure had she died in her sleep due to choking on her own vomit, none of these "friends" who were so readily snapping the pictures would've even known what to do - much less taken responsibility for not getting her some help!  It's just sick & disgusting the way these younger people treat their bodies & their parents, who are fully aware of what's going on, just don't give a damn! How very sad that is! I'm 36 & I can not have children due to medical reasons, but I tell you 1 thing, IF I were given the chance, for just 1 split second, to be a mommy, I sure as he** wouldn't just throw it away!  It's a privilege & a gift to be a parent & I just can't understand for the life of me why parents just can't/won't see that! UGH!!!

 

Thank you for saying this.  In an earlier posting I made on here, I mentioned several things that astound me concerning this "parent" and her immature, self-destrucive child Mary.  First of all, the excuse train.  It's always someone else's fault or the fault of circumstances.  Never the mother's or her cocky wastrel of a  daughter's.  This is a severe case of lousy parenting if I've ever seen one!  Why does this loser kid still have access to the internet?  And how is she even allowed out of the house given her uncontrolled destructive behavior. Like you said, she is lucky she just went into a coma instead of no longer being alive.  And her "friends" are not friends.  To stand around and take pictures rather than get Mary help shows that to them it is a big joke. PARTY TIME! And stupid Mary then posts these on the internet?? She must be really starved for atttention, because that is what she is looking for here.  She will do ANYTHING to get her picture out in public as if she is telling the world "PLEEEEEEEZE. SOMEONE PLEEEEEEEZE LOOK AT ME!!!!!!! PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!!"

The stupid kid is actually proud of herself and the stupid mother just lets it happen and takes no constructive action whatsoever while making excuses for her child.  This should be a case for CPS because this lousy parenting is most definitely endangering this child.

By no means do I think these pictures are something to be proud of, but sometimes in this cruel world one needs to step back and look at things they have done and say gosh that was dumb and have a laugh.  I dont want to put pictures of myself on the internet, but i am a shy person. Other people, however are not and as long as no one is being harmed WHO CARES! I hope any future employers will take the word of my references and past employers and resume!! And not go digging around in my personal life for a reason not to hire me!! Now the whole Mary situation is something totally different. That poor girl needs to get help before she is killed in a car wreck, raped one night while she is drunk or any of the number of things that can happen to a young girl. She is so young and doesnt know the damage she is doing to her liver and the long term effects it will have on her body!! The Amanda girl really made me mad!! She should spend all this time and energy that she is using on this crap feeding starving children or workig in a soup kitchen!! I just dont see where she gets off budding in these peoples business?? She really needs to get a LIFE and stop worring about other peoples espeacially something so unimportant as pictures that people took!! If they bother her that bad then she has the right to NOT look at them!!!