Topic : 01/15 Internet Mistakes

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Girls dancing on bars half-naked, passed out on the beach, hugging the porcelain … these are photos posted for all to see on the Web site Facebook, in a group called Thirty Reasons a Girl Should Call it a Night. These shocking and provocative pictures are supposedly submitted by the women in the photos themselves. The women say they love to have fun, and this is a way to bond with other girls just like them. But are there unforeseen consequences to letting the public behold you at your worst? Dr. Phil speaks with women on both sides of this debate. Jasmine is the moderator for the group Thirty Reasons and says, although she’s responsible for taking down questionable photos, she hasn’t found one yet! Amanda and Norma are incensed that women would degrade themselves in this way. Hear from the president of a company who uses Web sites like Facebook and MySpace to weed out potential employees. Could documenting your good time on the Internet become your biggest regret? Then, a teen who loves to drink says criticism of Thirty Reasons just reinforces the double standard of gender inequality. What do Dr. Phil and the teen’s mother think? Plus, a mayor’s sexy photo has her town’s residents outraged. And, meet a substitute teacher who says he was unfairly fired from his job two times for what’s on his MySpace page. Share your thoughts here.

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January 21, 2008, 7:31 pm PST

01/15 Internet Mistakes

I do believe that people should be careful as to what they post online. It can say a lot about the person who posts it, and not necessarily in a good way. For me, I choose to talk to my friends online rather than post stuff because there's some stuff that I want to share with some friends, and some stuff I don't. Using MSN I can control who gets access and who gets to know what. Admittedly I do have a profile of myself on a website, but I keep it tasteful and always use common sense first. If I wouldn't tell a stranger, I never post it. I prefer having my private life kept as that - private. I'm maybe the odd sort who doesn't have a lot that I have to be ashamed of, but I still like to talk to my friends and tell them stuff, not to just anybody.

 

Common sense is the key - If you wouldn't tell a stranger on the street - don't post it.

I do also realize that there are some who would tell anyone anything, but just think of keeping a good image for yourself , as they said on the show - you never know who is checking up on you.

 
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January 22, 2008, 12:44 pm PST

Internet Mistakes

As someone who frequents Facebook, I was not at all surprised by this episode. In fact, I've seen much worse on other facebook groups, and while I would never post pictures like that of myself, I can't understand why any stranger would make it their business to enlighten me as to the dangers of doing so. I'm fairly certain that these girls would have thought about who would be looking at the pictures, and obviously still posted them anyways, and hardly seem ashamed of doing it. Trust me, these pictures are tame compared to what else is on facebook. Many of the boys I went to highschool with started a group called "dirty sex positions", which is full of disgusting, abusive, and degrading tips on different sexual positions to try with a girl, which I consider much worse than drunken photos, and this group is just one of many. Also, I think that young girls and women are given a very mixed message, if not from society as a whole than from their peers. I'm a university student, and the type of behaviour that these pictures came out of is typically rewarded by peers in the form of attention. If you're the kind of girl, or especially if you're the kind of boy, who can go out and drink until you puke, and laugh about it later, then you really know how to party. However, I'm not advocating this behaviour and I think it's a shame that girls (and boys) look to this as means for getting attention, and laughs from their friends.
 
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January 22, 2008, 12:48 pm PST

Exactly!!

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I think that Amanda was extremely annoying, "look at me when I am talking to you" give me a break.

 

If these girls are putting pictures of themselves drunk on facebook, what the hell is that any of amandas business?

 

YOU DONT APPROVE OF IT DONT LOOK AT IT!!!

 

While I wouldn't post pictures like that of myself, no one was aking her what she thought, and I'm pretty sure that if it had been me posting those pictures, I most likely wouldn't care.

 

They weren't her pictures, and she doesn't have to look at them if they bother her so much!!!!!!!!!!:)

 
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January 22, 2008, 12:57 pm PST

Live and let live

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I think that Amanda was extremely annoying, "look at me when I am talking to you" give me a break.

 

If these girls are putting pictures of themselves drunk on facebook, what the hell is that any of amandas business?

 

YOU DONT APPROVE OF IT DONT LOOK AT IT!!!

A sign of maturity is what I call the "live and let live" philosophy.  A sign of immaturity is judgment of others.  As long as the drunk girls are not hurting anyone (besides themselves,) I say it is none of Amanda's business.   I do not understand how people like Amanda think they are "better" than anyone else living on the face of this earth.  Who woke up and made her the moral compass of these girls' actions.  Aw Shucks, Dr. Phil, how about pointing out her obvious need to make herself feel better and powerful by judging and belittling others in public.  Amanda came across as extremely uptight and haughty.  I say she obviously needs to get a life if she spends that much time policing the internet and attacking those she does not know.    WHO CARES?  And if Amanda is worried about the example this sets for other girls, then how about coming from a place of true caring and love instead of acting like an "ice queen."  How about a hug for these girls and get to the bottom of the pain that some might have that causes them to drink and post the pics.  Amanda should post some of her own pictures that show her doing positive things and be an example to others, instead of a condemner.  Bottom line:  If you do not approve, do not look.  Live and let live!
 
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January 22, 2008, 1:09 pm PST

that's fine, so.....

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While I wouldn't post pictures like that of myself, no one was aking her what she thought, and I'm pretty sure that if it had been me posting those pictures, I most likely wouldn't care.

They weren't her pictures, and she doesn't have to look at them if they bother her so much!!!!!!!!!!:)

When Mary can't get a decent job because her maturity level and bad attidude are displayed all over public social networks nobody wants to hear her crying about it....

 

You reap what you sow, Mary.  Remember that.

 
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January 22, 2008, 2:43 pm PST

Pathetic

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go do your own "homework"

 

you use "womens rights" as part of your platform & yet in reality you don't know anything about womens issues or "The Movement"!  You've still not said how the "60's sexual revolution" related to the feminist movement.    I'll give you a hint it's called sexual repression.......  However that's not what any of this is about because it isn't just women who are "degrading themselve online but young men as well & they are ALL being judged by their behaviors online!!!!!!!!  That's why 1 young man was passzed over & the other was FIRED!!!!!!!!

 

before I repeat what I'd said earlier let me say

 

Namaste

 

 

"Fifties fetish pinup Bettie Page, known in pornography circles for her black-haired bangs and kinky straps, whips and boots, predated Playboy magazine and, apparently, caused quite a stireventually being asked to appear before a senator's porn hearing. "

 

 

you mean like in the bondage pic from the fifties?  this was & IS pornography and so not it's just changed because the women have less clothing on?   or because it's on the internet instead of in a magazine? 

 

With all this said these young women on myspace are not wearing all that much etc. & again I don't agree with what they're doing but they're hardly creating pornography. 

Just a lovely picture.....

 

For those of us who helped to bring about EQUALITY for women (along with our mothers and grandmother zwho marched and wrote letters and demanded equality), HOW PATHETIC that women aren't bright enough to have enough respect for themselves than to de-humanize themselves and their bodies with sexual images. Anyone can have sex, including dogs. We're supposed to be more proud of our brains and emotions and actions than of what we can do in the bedroom with (sometimes) total strangers!

 

As someone so eloquently stated, just becuase we CAN do something doesn't mean we SHOULD do it.

 

If we want respect in this world, we must EARN it. When we show no respect for ourselves, our bodies and God, we shouldn't expect to get ahead in this world when it comes to friendships, comittted marriages, good jobs, etc.

 
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January 22, 2008, 5:46 pm PST

01/15 Internet Mistakes

    Heres whats okay to post on the Internet. Anything..........Anything and Everything is okay. Just post it......

 

   One problem people may make on the Internet is that they will take into consideration everything they hear and see. Suppose you got an e-mail, and it said you win 1,000,000 dollars. Then you open it up, and it said click here to claim your 1,000,000 dollars. A large number of people would probably jump on that , and they would expect to get 1,000,000 dollars.

   These type of wacko e-mails are not realistic, and that type of money don't exist. Instead its a scam and its out to rob or fool you..........

 
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January 22, 2008, 8:13 pm PST

You Missed The Boat

Yes, you told that young lady that drinking was illegal at the age of 17 BUT you never once brought up the fact that with that type of drinking comes the possibility of rape, pregnancy and even death by accident.  As a parent, I was amazed that you let the girls mother off the hook as she seemed to condone what her daughter was doing as she had this grin throughout the show. Sometimes I think Dr Phil needs to show the people interviewed that the audience is in aggreement or disagreement with them.  They were definitely in disagreement with this young 17 year old!
 
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January 22, 2008, 8:20 pm PST

Repercussions of MySpace and FaceBook Phots

These girls do not realize that not only are they ruining their chances for a good job, a good school, or a career in any military service if chosen, they are also putting their lives in danger.  Pedofiles and Sex Offenders prey on those sites for vulnerable girls to take advantage of.  They will see how inibriated these women are getting and how they are passing out in odd public places.  Easy access for kidnapping and all the other horrible things that happen to individuals not being aware of their surroundings or what they post for the entire world to see.

 

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January 22, 2008, 8:27 pm PST

01/15 Internet Mistakes

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I just viewed the Internet Mistakes show today.  I was a bit taken aback from several aspects.  There fine line that is so apparent it is scary.  I just can’t help but think, isn’t it better to side on the more moral or responsible side of things than what the opposite could be?

 

Bottom line, I think it boils down to respect and responsibility... Let me explain:

 

I saw and heard every word that the 17 year old was saying.  In my opinion she neither respected herself nor expressed any responsibility for herself.  You could see it in how she carried herself and looked at those around her.  Deep down, I think she saw she had a problem, but had never been taught the appropriate way to handle herself.  I was appalled at the lack of intervention from her mother.  At the age of 15 she became aware of her daughter’s drinking, yet it still continues.  She was not aware of the extent of her FACE BOOK account.  I think this family helps to display the very wrong turn that is happening in our society.  Firstly, never would my parents have allowed any actions such as drinking underage or inappropriate language towards others.  This mother didn’t seem to bat an eye.  As a teacher, I see this decline in our family connections grow each year.  The behaviors and attitudes of children become more “in your face” while we have less parental support.  I feel for this family, and I hope that this show can be a wake up call.  This young child is on a path of destruction, they just don’t see it yet.  At this point, it is like she said; it is just cute fun and games.  This attitude shows that she is still not old enough to make long term decisions that will impact her life.

 

The substitute teacher is another story.  It is true that as teachers, we are held to a higher moral standing.  This means inside and outside the classroom.  If I was a drunk, do you think you would want me as your child’s teacher?  I know I wouldn’t want that for my own children.  This young man has an outside career, so many of us do. (To help make ends meet).  That outside career must not put the first priority in jeopardy.  This is how I see this situation.  He is in a position of authority.  He works with older students that… like to see the language flow.  How can he correct them if he too uses that language?  Double standard?  Yes, you can argue that there is a time and a place, but that can be as weak as the person who needs to use that kind of language to get their message across.  He had his warning from the school board after the first termination and re-hire.  When he chose to repost his ‘music’ he basically slapped the school board in the face.  (TIP…They don’t like that kind of behavior).  He should have been fired after the second time.  Not only did he repost his original music, but he added nudity to a site that he was aware students of his were viewing.  He needs to think, why is it he wants to work for the schools?  Is it the time, love of the learning process, or working with kids?  We all know that it is not for the money!  I made more money bartending and waiting tables part time, than I do as a full time teacher.  My suggestion, bartend where they have visiting bands.  Maybe someone of importance will see you and help you on your path.

 

We overall should be asking ourselves some basic questions to answer the Internet Mistakes debate.  What kind of person do I want in charge of my mortgage, credit cards, children, sales person, et.  If an employer wants to use public access to find out more about your character, than go for it.  I would rather know that the person taking personal information over the phone, or completing my medical information have a sense of respect and responsibility for themselves.  (Respect meaning that they don’t advertise their misjudgments in a public forum)  If they show that restraint, than perhaps they will show that respect and responsibility toward my needs. 

 

One more comment.  The young girl who opposed the FACE BOOK site.  While at first she seemed to have her act together and appeared to have a strong head on her shoulders, really upset me at the end of the show.  I am sure she did not mumble to the other child about being eaten alive on the show.  I am more likely to believe that it went down as first described.  The way she stumbled over herself to “get out of the situation” made that clear.  I was very pleased when Dr. Phil put her in her place so to speak.  She didn’t add anything of value when the other young lady was on the stage.  In that one fell swoop, my opinion diminished of her greatly.

 

 

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