Topic : 01/15 Internet Mistakes

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Girls dancing on bars half-naked, passed out on the beach, hugging the porcelain … these are photos posted for all to see on the Web site Facebook, in a group called Thirty Reasons a Girl Should Call it a Night. These shocking and provocative pictures are supposedly submitted by the women in the photos themselves. The women say they love to have fun, and this is a way to bond with other girls just like them. But are there unforeseen consequences to letting the public behold you at your worst? Dr. Phil speaks with women on both sides of this debate. Jasmine is the moderator for the group Thirty Reasons and says, although she’s responsible for taking down questionable photos, she hasn’t found one yet! Amanda and Norma are incensed that women would degrade themselves in this way. Hear from the president of a company who uses Web sites like Facebook and MySpace to weed out potential employees. Could documenting your good time on the Internet become your biggest regret? Then, a teen who loves to drink says criticism of Thirty Reasons just reinforces the double standard of gender inequality. What do Dr. Phil and the teen’s mother think? Plus, a mayor’s sexy photo has her town’s residents outraged. And, meet a substitute teacher who says he was unfairly fired from his job two times for what’s on his MySpace page. Share your thoughts here.

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January 15, 2008, 12:49 pm PST

01/15 Internet Mistakes

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 My brother who had just turned 20, died eight months ago today afer he passed out from binge drinking and his "friends" drew all over him.  They drew penises and sexual innuendos.  One of the remarks "TEA BAG ME" is considered a sexual assault.  He woke up and was irate.  In his drunken state we think he thought he had been "teabagged".  Four kids have been arrested for assault and battery.  Go to www.griffensgift.com to see his story.  It has been a horrific experience for our family. 

I had never heard of such behavior but know unfortunately how deadly it can be.  I saw his morgue photos and can find nothing humorous in humiliating another person.  Kids need to stop and think that this kind of behavior as in my brother's case can result in another person losing their life. 

He made a terrible choice to binge drink.  He paid the price.  He lost his life.  To parents who may read this I plead with you to share his story.  Your child may be like him and believe "friends" always take care of you.  They don't always do so.  To young people who may read this I say stop and think about your behavior.  The joke stops being funny when someone winds up dead.  It can happen, it already has.

 I am so sorry for your loss!

I hope lots of kids see your posting and listen to what you say.

God bless you and your family.

 
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January 15, 2008, 12:49 pm PST

Missing the Point

I am a 52 year old recovering alcoholic.  Yes, being on the internet is a problem...

but what most concerns me is that many of these young women are already in

the grips of this progressive, deadly disease and will show up (hopefully) they

will make it there) in the rooms of AA in the future.

The young 17 year old is especially at risk as she has been diagnosed with

ADD and another emotional illness.  A majority of alcoholics have come to

drinking to "Medicate" the underlying anxiety, OCD, depression etc.  What they

end up with is disaster.  Women physically are even more at risk for physical

and deadly consequence of alcoholism because to their physical makeup.

 

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE DR. PHIL DO A LOT MORE EDUCATION ABOUT

THE PROCESS OF ADDICTION, THE GENETIC INHEIRITANCE AND THE

LONG TERM PHYSICAL AND MENTAL CONSEQUENCES. AND TALK

TO PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF WHO HAVE BEEN THERE AND ALMOST

DIED, AND HAVE ONLY A DAILY REPRIEVE.

 

ONCE YOU CROSS THAT INVISIBLE LINE...THERE IS NO GOING BACK.

 

IN ANNAPOLIS MD, WISHING I COULD SAVE SOMEONE FROM YEARS

OF HELL. PAM J

 
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January 15, 2008, 12:50 pm PST

Ridiculous!

How does Amanda get off judging this 17 year old girl?  Doesn't Amanda have anything better to do with her time than pick on some random girl?  It's not of her business.  If Amanda doesn't like it, don't go on Facebook or Myspace!  Get your on life!
 

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January 15, 2008, 12:51 pm PST

I just wanted to

point out that only people you are friends with can see your pictures and your profile. If you do not want to see someone's photos, do not look at them. I am not saying that people should post up pictures of themselves puking, but if they do, it is their own choice. no one is forcing you to look at it. Underage drinking is not legal, but it is so common now. Nearly all teenagers drink. More than most people think. So the real problem is teenage drinking. If they didn't drink, there would be no "offensive photos."

 
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January 15, 2008, 12:53 pm PST

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 I am 24 years old and I have a facebook account and there are pictures of me on facebook. I think it is ridiculous for that Amanda girl to go on television and make it sound like just bc people post stupid pictures like this on facebook that there is something SOOO wrong with it. I agree its not BRILLIANT but get real. This girls posts on facebook are mocking and she is trying to make herself sound better than them.

 

for example she says:

 

*Perhaps I should find some Valium and mix it with a few shots of Bacardi. Because all the cool girls are doing it!

 

*I'll stop putting myself above you when I see you using correct grammar and NOT wrapped around a toilet.

 

*I'm inclined to think I'm smarter than you are.

 

*If you don't want to be called a drunken slut....well, don't show everyone photos of you getting really hammered and making out with various people, or vomiting like there's no tomorrow.

 

*I get wasted, I have a good time, I live it up sometimes. Difference is, I don't take my party photos.

 

When did anyone say they mixed valium and barcadi? She is personally attacking everyone who is a part of this group, labeling them and categorizing them. And now she attacks their grammar? Good for you Amanda, you can spell. I think this girl is stuck up, snotty, arrogant and flat out rude. I am not saying that putting pictures like that out there is a good idea but I am arguing how she attacked them and how she tried to demean them and talk them down. And apparently kissing someone makes you a drunken slut and so does getting really hammered and vomiting. I am not saying shes wrong that its a bad idea, but GET REAL! So bc I have kissed someone while I was drunk and gotten TOO drunk makes me a slut? No, that just means I had bad judgement one night, Apparenlty this girl is perfect. Absolutely ridiculous. And as for her last quote.....good for her....but SHE DOES MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES, and bc you just publicly announced it, makes you just as "bad".....so according to her previous statements shes a slut too. It didnt take a picture Amanda...you just called yourself out. I am disgusted by this judgemental "holier than though" girl.

 
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January 15, 2008, 12:53 pm PST

you need a reality check

hello! i was watching your show about face book and i couldnt help but be annnnnooooyyyyyeeeed by it! you have got to be kiddddding meeeeeee. Who are you to decide when people are mature enough to start drinking? if they wanna post pictures of themsleves haggared or having a good time who cares? its a free country. Get over it. I garauntee anyone in highschool with a social life drinks almost everyone weekend. You go to school all week and the whole time your looking forward to the weekend and having fun... and yes alcohol makes situations a lot funner a lot of the time. as long as nobodies getting hurt and breaking any laws(besides underage drinking) then whooooo cares!. Your  naive to think that , that girl has an alcohol problem. do a friggen survey... youll think 50% of young america has one too... signing out.... cyaaa lata
 
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January 15, 2008, 12:53 pm PST

This isn't just about girls...but where is N.O.W.????

I have 3 teenage boys - I made them take their myspace pages off because the material was inappropiate - I was a recruiter for several years, and then in the Human Resources Management field.  If I were still in that field, I would surely take into account and google the applicant to see how they were portraying themselves on line. 

 

In addition, I am really ticked off as a 49 year old woman who remembers how hard it was to get through an interview years ago if you were child bearing age (it was an employer consideration) or if you were or were not married etc and I can't for the life of me figure out where the National Organization for Women are right now on this subject (are they still around?)   Where are they?  And why aren't they speaking out and educating these young women on how they are hurting themselves and their chances for future advancement?   Presentation is everything...no matter if you think it's your private life or not - Facebook and MySpace are public. 

 
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January 15, 2008, 12:56 pm PST

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Oh my Lord...check out the Facebook group now,  It's got tons of new members and has gained more publicity than ever!  Aren't these girl embarassed to portray themselves like that?  I go out, have fun, drink, and sometimes do stupid things.  But I would NEVER want to show that side of myself to the world.  These girls have not had any consequences yet...and they may never have any consequences.  But that wouldn't be a risk I'm willing to take.
 

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January 15, 2008, 12:56 pm PST

01/15 Internet Mistakes

I was terribly surprised, as well as terribly diappointed, that Dr. Phil didn't come down hard on the mother whose 17-year old daughter is drinking on a reguar basis.  Where was the Dr Phil that normally gets on parents for the behavior of their children?  Where was that Dr Phil?!

 

He should also have been much harder on the 17-year old, who is fast on her way to becomig an alcoholic!!!

 

I am starting to think that Dr. Phil is losing his toughness.  What a shame!  I miss the old Dr. Phil.

 

 

 
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January 15, 2008, 12:56 pm PST

I disagree with almost everything here

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I was going to say the exact same thing you said. I personally don't think that employers or corporations should look into the employee's (or future employees) private lives such as Myspace or Facebook as well. That's a violation of privacy. Can't they be sued for that if they (Employees) found out? It should have nothing to do with their jobs that are affecting them, or for those who are trying to apply. Just because they post some things on the Internet inappropriately, doesn't mean that they'll carry it on into the workplace.

 

I do feel bad for Mary, because she has no idea on what she's getting herself into. And Amanda isn't helping matters any by calling her names & degrading her.

How can this be a violation of privacy when myspace & facebook are *public* ?  That's like  hearing that someone posed in a nude magazine & going to look at it & then being considered to e nosy or invading their privacy?  it's public & guess what people are going to check out who you are for real & not just in the interview.  If someone says publicly they are taking drugs (meaning it or kidding) a employer has *EVERY RIGHT* to not want to deal with a druggy period.  If it's part of public record then it's part of a public record & putting it on a public place like myspace or face fook is putting it out there themselves!!!!!!  It's not like an employer is grilling people from your past to try to find out intimate details of your life.  We need to be careful of the things we say & do because people will *JUDGE US ON THAT*  that's just life & people need to learn that. 

 

That said I agree that Amanda doesn't help any situation and especially the girl Mary she was speaking to.  You can't talk down to a teenager or they'll just rebel and that's just a fact and that Amanda seemed to think she was some kind of authority.  She's not and she needs to grow up.  I agree that Mary has no idea of what she's setting herself up for but she needs a real adult to step up & 1 parent & the other adults around her to speak *to her* not at her.  Hopefully Amanda will learn the difference prior to having kids of her own, but I know plenty of parents who haven't & they're kids are so out of control it's not funny & the parents have no idea. 

 

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