Topic : 03/27 "Get Your Act Together!"

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(Original Air Date: 01/17/07) Most kids dream of growing up and moving away from home, but what happens when your adult children still haven’t flown the coop? Amanda, her husband, Mike, and their baby are all living in her parents’ tiny three-bedroom apartment. Amanda’s sister, Heather, says Mike and Amanda are so disrespectful to her mom, Brenda, and stepdad, Mike, that they need to be kicked to the curb! Heather says Amanda is lazy, and Mike lost his job as a correctional officer when he was convicted of selling drugs to the inmates! Brenda says she can’t bear the thought of her daughter and grandchild living on the street. Can Dr. Phil get her to cut the purse strings? Then, Brianne has been with her boyfriend, Greg, for nine years and says he’s the biggest mooch she’s ever met. Greg has never paid rent and admits he’s had between 50 and 75 jobs in the last six years. Brianne’s Aunt Terri says Greg is a lazy loser, and she’s sick of his excuses. Will Greg be able to get on his feet, or should Brianne cut her losses and move on?  Tell us what you think.

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January 17, 2008, 6:39 pm PST

Happening here too

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 I really feel for you! I lived through this. My sister did this to my parents who spent their money on keeping her up. . But my sister fell apart, and my parents eventually fell apart, the stress was overwhelming. Only someone in this situation could understand.  my parents were unable to save any  money to retire on, and they eventually worked until my father developed cancer and had to quit..   My parents aged and grieved over my sister and I knew her addiction was a sickness, but it was so hard on them...I only wish she would have stopped and seen what she was doing to them .The only thing I can suggest is that your parents need to come down on her the DR PHIL WAY, he has so much wisdom, and I wish he had his books and show when my family went down this road.  If  your parents  enable her, they will continue to suffer emotionally and financially;.They need PROFESSIONAL GUIDANCE, IT IS A VERY TOUGH THING TO DEAL WITH.  
 My parents have been supporting my two brothers, 41 and 39.  My parents have five children, two girls and three boys.  My sister, my brother and I moved out years ago.  But my two youngest brothers did not.  Neither one has ever been out on their own, and it is infuriating to have to watch my 78 year old day shovel snow and mow the grass.  They do not help my parents in the least.  They don't think they are taking advantage of my parents, in fact, they are super-critical of the three children who did go out and make lives for themselves.  If I do as my parents for help, like to borrow my dad's car when mine is in the shop, they complain to Mom and Dad how I am taking advantage of my parents.  They are causing a definite rift in the family, and my parents seem very frustrated.  They will be celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary in the next year, and they would like to celebrate.  However, my two brothers living with them will not talk to us about preparation.  In fact, they do not talk to us, the three oldest, at all.  How do you tell an elderly couple not in the best of health to get tough and give their sons notice?
 
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January 17, 2008, 6:55 pm PST

Job Appropriate

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I absolutely agree that Mike needs to get a job, but I was very disappointed that Dr. Phil did not stress that Amanda should also gt a job.  Mike was complaining that you can't take care of a family at $8.00 /hr, I worked at min. wage jobs while I paid my own way through college and paid for my car so I could get a good job.  I have worked since I was 16, I have 2 happy healthy well adjusted kids.  Amanda can go to work too, and I am more then a little disappointed that Dr. Phil didn't address that more then just in passing
I find it amusing that these people, with not skills, education beyond high school ( I hope), expect to get the best jobs.  Who was their guidance counselor?  I was always told that if I wanted to make top wages, I needs to have top education and training. 
 
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January 17, 2008, 6:58 pm PST

Enablers

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This first story reminds me of my sister so much, she lives in one of my parents rentals. She pays 300 when the rent usually goes for 750 (atleast it did 7 years ago). By the way the rental house is right next to my parents, and she is always calling them up and making them do fixes on the house. My sister even lived there for rent free for 2 years (she has been there for 7 going on 8 years now). She has 2 children, she actally takes naps during the day, she is 32 years olds. While watching this show, I told my mom I have thought about calling Dr Phil on this subject, but I know my mother woud hate me for putting this on TV, so I never did, even though I think Dr Phil could do alot of great help with this. Where the story differs is this isn't a money problem really, this is about my sister not taking charge of her life. She will not learn how to drive, and use to make my dad drive her into town, till 3 years ago when he said no more. She never thanks my mother for anything and completely disrespects our father.

 

I feel so sorry for this old couple that has immature children. Dr Phil is right they have to kick these adults out. There is one thing to live with your parents to get short term help, there is another to just live off of them. I feel very sorry for my parents as well, and its caused anger from me to my sister. My parents have never been able to take a vacation, because of her. My mother is scared to death that one of the children will get hurt and my sister will not know what to do. BTW my parents have 3 daughters 32, 31, and 25 (me). They are not suppose to still be taking care of kids.

These parents that allow themselves to be taken advantage of are enabling these behaviors from their children.  I wonder if these children have done this their whole lives.  These kids are doing what has worked for them; they see no reason to change their behaviors.
 
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January 17, 2008, 7:04 pm PST

those are just sorry men!!!!

All  I can say is that both of those men are just sorry.  My husband works away from home 30 days at a time to support us.  Do you think he wants to work away that much and only be home for 2 weeks.  NO WAY! But it isn't a point of whether or not he wants to it is about what he needs to do to be a responsible husband.  Of course he would rather be home with his wife everyday and I would rather him be too, but where we live the pay at local jobs isn't too great so he goes where the money is which unfortunately is on a towboat.  So my advice to the woman whose boyfriend sits at home all day and plays games is that you can and will find a better man but first you have to take the trash out before you can find someone else.  And to the couple living with the parents, he needs to man up and take care of his responsibilities.  And if he can't support the family on his own then she needs to woman up and get a job too.  If the grandmother is taking care of the grandchild now then maybe she will help babysit until they can find appropriate childcare.  Either way their first priority should be the child and if it was then they would get jobs.  Also, until they do get jobs they need to get off their asses and help the parents around the house.  They are just sorry from the way things appeared on the show.
 
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January 17, 2008, 7:08 pm PST

get your act together

On todays show it was said repeatedly that you can't raise a family on $8 an hour. This surprizes me because I've done it and my pay just went up to $6.90 an hour at the first of the year.
 
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January 17, 2008, 7:10 pm PST

01/17 "Get Your Act Together!"

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Depends on your state, washington state is 8.05, which I have never meet anyone that actaully made that.
I agree with you there. In my state minimum just went from $5.85 to $6.90 and I feel like I'm rich.
 
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January 17, 2008, 7:54 pm PST

Wow - tough love is in order

Once when my boys were in elementary school I cringed when another parent sent her son to school with no coat. She said that she had told him it was cold outside and he failed to take the coat. When he called from school saying he wasn't going to be able to go on the playground without a coat. I thought - you want to take him a coat - or you will look like a bad parent right? She said - I told him no, if he couldn't go out and play maybe he would learn that if I said it was cold and he should take a coat he would next time. I thought - man - she is tough! By the time my boys were in middle school - I realized that I was raising boys that 'expected' me to always be their savior. Now - I still want to stick up for my kids and be there when the need me. If I were a grandmother - trust me they would be able to get to me holding a baby out there and saying ... but without you putting me up the baby won't have a roof over it's head. BUT tough love is in order. I feel so much for the mother that doesn't want her daughter to continue living off of her but also is afraid for her grandchild. I feel for the Aunt who sees that the great nephew's father is not a positive influence and wants her niece to have a better life. When you are able - you give. When you are not able and you are a parent - you still find away to give. I'm lucky I don't have to work outside my home - however, when we were first married my husband worked two jobs and every thing I made from my job was put into a savings account to prepare for our family. We wanted things but we didn't get them. We worked and we saved. I know the children are already there. The bills are already there but ... I so hope these people will 'GET THEIR ACTS TOGETHER' - yes - first for the children but also for themselves. Tough love is in order and I hope that in time - both parents and children can appreciate it.
 
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January 17, 2008, 8:16 pm PST

01/17 "Get Your Act Together!"

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     This is driving me nuts in this episode. Minimum wage is $5.85 an hour not $8.00. I have to work for this amount of money and it is insulting to me that no one even knows how much money average people make.
Sorry if this offends anyone.

Where do you live?

here in my state children under 18 make 6.55 an hour. adults make 8.00 an hour minimum wage. Our waitresses in this state make really good money as do our bus boys, they get a portion of the tips.

federal minimum wage is different and depends on where you R working whether a small business or a corporation. Look at the fast food industry. If it is a franchise the owner can pay you the lowest in Federal. But the franchise will pay the highest in federal. Also states vary.

In Colorado waitresses still get paid low hourly , about 2.50 an hour compared to NW states of 8.00 an hour plus tips and benefits.WE keep very close track of the tips in these states..

To be honest, average people do make 7-8 an a hour all over. get on a computer and type in average incomes across the USA and find out what the highest minimum wages are and the work is.

Also, Oregon has NO work. Montana is strictly ranch forestry and service industry.. but you can find a job all over if you really want to.

Washington state needs more GEEKS and nurses and doctors. We need more folks willing to do agriculture in the worst way. In Washington state we have the lowest in un-employed.  We work everyone ,including our own in-mates.Here you are only allowed to be on un-employment for no more than 6 months. you get 4-9 months off if you have a child on welfare. YOU WILL go back to work.

There is Wal-Mart, starting at 8.50 to 10. an hour here. There are work programs that you can go to every day known as MAN POWER. you get there first thing in the morning at 6 am to make sure you are the first chosen. There are no excuses anywhere . Look and you shall find:)

 
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January 17, 2008, 8:40 pm PST

WHEN YOU REALLY LOVE YOUR CHILDREN......

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AA to Al-a non and help the 'guy' who opened the red sea to free his people too*

I swear I have a stomach that has bled on this one many times and I am on so many medications for a stomach that STOPPED digesting, I might as well give up food all together because the food does not stay down long.

Boy 34, lives far away and travels world wide.. BUT, when times were bad the kid would call and I would pay all his cell phone bills that ranged from 80-5oo a at a time. When asked to send him to choir camp fro the summer through a well known school on the east coast.. I sent him for 1000.00 and when he turned 30 years old and told me he did not need me anymore and that he found someone to pay his rent , he was happy and has not called me again. He is now 34 years of age.

Kid 2. deserted her kids 7 years ago because of gang activity, heavy drug use and had enough crap on her to make any mom have a heart attack. I got cusody of the children until they turn 18. At that time they were 1 1/2 and age 7. She beat the baby and badly effected the lil boy emotionally. Foe the next 5 years after that we really thought for sure she was dead. She was not and we had her put into treatment for the 15th time since she was 13. She has lived with us now for 2 years and it is time for her to go because she is a disaster again and yells at me all the time in front of the boys. LOUD and the cursing is horrible. If I had a calculalator the price of the children are 'PRICELESS' her expenses in many drug treatments and all the hell she has put all of us through is partly PRICELESS and worth thousands and thousands dollars.

I am worried that some day she will come back and blow my brains out. She will too.

My younger son came back home 3-4 times untill he was 27 uears old and finally has a really good gaming job and is successful not mean and actually paid off to allow him home.

My step daughter only calls for when she needs money and has never sent my husband one picture of either of his grand-daughter.

My bio-mother protected my younger sister for years . My kid sister lived at home until she was 31 and never worked. She sold dope and my real mom would filter the money through an acct ..

My brother was just as horrid.

I left/ran away from home when I was 14 years old and never ever went back. I went back to school and I raised 3 kids all by myself with one dad and later on many marriages.

Should kids leave?

If they are activily going to college and getting their lives going, NO!

Working to improve their young lives, NO.

Sitting around and making your life hell. NO!

Get rid of the grown kid and make them grow up fast!

Believe this hurts you incredibly bad because some fight and scream and cry as if they were 12-16 years old.. I know .

I know you love your children and grandchildren, but when you REALLY love your children, you make them accountable for their actions and you lay down the rules from the time they are little! Every year that goes by it gets harder to make them toe the line.

 

Stop enabling them....it's time for YOU to have a peaceful life. They'll survive, one way or the other, without you...in fact, they'll survive better without you because you've made it too easy and they've never had to do it on their own...it's way past time for them to sink or swim!

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God bless.

 
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January 17, 2008, 8:43 pm PST

01/17 "Get Your Act Together!"

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Those lazy men need to get the hell out of the house and get a taste of life. I wouldn't stand for anything like that taking place in my home. Especially when there is absolutely no respect for the person who is paying the bills in the house. Go to the court house and get an eviction notice and serve it on their lazy butts and they will have to go. That stupid guy who had a good job and started selling drugs to inmates at the prison where he worked deserves to be homeless. He sure didn't use what little brain he must have when he did that. His wife should divorce him and get on with her life. He is nothing but trouble. What is he thinking saying $8.00 an hour isn't enough? No it really isn't enough in this day and age, but ya gotta start someplace. What does he expect a high paying job, when he is a felon? Then acting as though that apartment is partly his, because every now and then he goes out and buys groceries and is paying his way. Come on, get real you stupid no good piece of crap. And the other guy at the end of the show....Dr. Phil where do you dig these people up? I'd be ashamed to come on a national TV show if I was that dense. Who would hire that guy anyway? They both are losers. Too bad we don't have the draft anymore. That is where boys learn how to be real men., in the service. Can't go crying to mama then. Hey Lazy Boy, did ya ever think about our men and women in the service who are fighting for YOUR freedom. Just how much do you think they make per hour? You two are sorry specimens of men.

Look at what that one guy is teaching his little boy.......NOTHING ONLY HOW TO BE A LAZY GOOD FOR NOTHING TAKING UP SPACE ON THE EARTH AND NOT CARING WHO IS PAYING FOR HIM TO EAT AND HAVE A ROOF OVER HIS HEAD. BOTH OF THESE LITTLE BOYS SHOULD REALLY BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES. There is nothing wrong with the wife wanting to stay home and take care of her little boy, but when you need to help out, you need to get out there and get a job too.

AMEN, AMEN AMEN!!!!
 

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