Topic : 03/27 "Get Your Act Together!"

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Created on : Friday, January 11, 2008, 01:06:43 pm
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(Original Air Date: 01/17/07) Most kids dream of growing up and moving away from home, but what happens when your adult children still haven’t flown the coop? Amanda, her husband, Mike, and their baby are all living in her parents’ tiny three-bedroom apartment. Amanda’s sister, Heather, says Mike and Amanda are so disrespectful to her mom, Brenda, and stepdad, Mike, that they need to be kicked to the curb! Heather says Amanda is lazy, and Mike lost his job as a correctional officer when he was convicted of selling drugs to the inmates! Brenda says she can’t bear the thought of her daughter and grandchild living on the street. Can Dr. Phil get her to cut the purse strings? Then, Brianne has been with her boyfriend, Greg, for nine years and says he’s the biggest mooch she’s ever met. Greg has never paid rent and admits he’s had between 50 and 75 jobs in the last six years. Brianne’s Aunt Terri says Greg is a lazy loser, and she’s sick of his excuses. Will Greg be able to get on his feet, or should Brianne cut her losses and move on?  Tell us what you think.

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January 18, 2008, 2:29 am PST

The parents need to do something

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When i was 17 i got pregnant and i married the father of my child, since we were married we moved out and my husband joined the military just to support me and our child, And i was 17!!

Even with a record you can still get a job at Taco bell they don't even do background checks, and i have seen people with more kids then one make it on that salary, maybe it is not the best life or the life you want but you have your own place to live with your own rules.

I have a cousin who is just like this and Her baby's dad is just like the guy on the show!

YOU GUYS NEED TO GROW UP AND STOP LIVING OFF YOUR PARENTS!!!

They can't "LIVE OFF THEIR PARENTS" unless they're allowed to. It's really quite simple.

 

The words that can be used are "get out now," "don't let the door hit you in the behind," "good riddance," "NO!," etc.

 
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January 18, 2008, 2:33 am PST

You're wrong on this, not Dr. Phil

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And let's not forget about the blonde daughter who stated explicitly that she's rather be with the loser than alone.  Well, Dr. Phil, just because you would rather be "happy alone than  sick with someone" assumes two things: 1.  That you'd be HAPPY alone.  Well, she just TOLD YOU that she didn't think she would be.  Now what?  Any tools for her other than nagging her to get some self-esteem.  My GOD, what a load of empty horse-hockey.  2.  She isn't you and she can't be expected to act like or accept what you accept.  What was the matter with you today?

Like everyone, she needs to find ways to be happy alone. Stop putting "victim" on her forehead and giving up hope for her.

 

I was very sad when I was dumped by someone I loved very much. I felt like crawling in a hole and dying. I had to make the CHOICE to get well. I had to make myself make new friends. It took time, but eventually I found happiness. This is just an example of how you have to MAKE yourself happy.

 

It is the young woman's responsibility to FIND happiness. If she doesn't like herself very much, there are resources for her. She can get couseling (she can even call around for free couseling. Many churches have PHD's on their staff to offer counseling, etc). NOBODY can make her happy but her.

 
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January 18, 2008, 2:42 am PST

Amen, Sister!

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I am outraged at what I saw on the show today.  I don't normally watch TV during this time of day, but as I heard a woman say something like she had to quit her job to "take care" of her son because her husband doesn't have a job and he wasn't taking care of the baby....ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!  If he isn't working then quitting your job is possibly the stupidest thing I have ever heard of! 

 

I am very passionate about this topic because I found myself pregnant in January 2007 and we now have a beautiful 4 month old baby boy.  My boyfriend and I got an apartment in April, he works as a plumber's apprentice and i as a waitress.   We keep opposite schedules so we don't need to work out daycare.  I can watch Tommy during the day while he is at work, and he watches him 4-5 nights a week while i wait tables.  So, I would like to know why both of them don't work?  I didn't think it was really an option these days to only have one parent working, but IF you can afford it then thats great... YOU TWO CANNOT AFFORD IT! 

 

Tell these two to get up and BOTH get jobs....since when is it only the mans responsibility to earn a wage?  Don't you want more for yourself and your child?  Take some pride in yourself and get off your ***  and if that means both of you flip burgers on opposite shifts then so be it. 

 

People like you two make me sick....what are you going to say next, that life isn't fair.  Welcome to adulthood, fun isn't it?

 

Melissa

age 27

working MOM with a 4 month old

Melissa, what a bright 27-yr-old you are. I wish I had your wisdom at such a young age!

 

Yes, life is unfair. It's what we make of it. And it usually has to do with the choices we make.

 

I didn't have my first child until age 31, after my 5th year of marriage. I had my second/last child at age 38. I have been able to stay home fulltime since his birth (he is now 7). But I taught school full-time with our first child becuase we had much debt. We were college-educated and were working our way up the career ladder, but we had made stupid choices w/ regard to money. Now that we've smartened up with money (and basically grown-up!), our lives have become much simplier and much better. I still teach, but just as a sub. I enjoy our children's activities and my volunteering to help others much more than I ever did working full-time. We have been married 18 years and we have the best marriage I could ever ask for!

 

I am confident your son (and any other children you have) have great role models in you and your boyfriend. I do hope that if you two truly love eachother, you will santify your marriage and make it a committment in God's eyes. Even if that is not important to you, there ARE benefits (under the law) that marriage provides. It is more of a safety net for women and children. I have worked with women and can tell you that marriage DOES offer legal protections to people should a romantic relationship end.

 

God bless you and good luck to you. Always put that beautiful child first and remember that he learns more from what you do than what you say. I do believe YOU will be a super parent, just from your brief posting.

 
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January 18, 2008, 3:40 am PST

Take care of yourself

Brianne should definitely get rid of that loser.  She is young, pretty and healthy and should realize that there is a whole world out there for her.  I know it can feel scary being alone (even though she should realize that she is alone right now) but when she finally gets rid of him, she and her child will finally have  a chance at happiness. The fact that she has to pay for daycare when he sits home all day is obscene!! 

 

The other couple both need to get a clue.  I think Mike should be working wherever he can, but the fact that Amanda actually said that she has to watch her child and can't work really pushed my buttons.  Both my husband and I have professional jobs, and I still had to go back to work when my baby was only 3 months old. A lot of times it take two people working to make ends meet.  Doesn't she realize that there are so many  mothers that go back to work in tears because they don't want to leave their children, but have to make money so their family can eat?  What makes her so special that she doesn't have to work? Why doesn't she look into working in a daycare because some will let the workers bring their children for free?

 
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January 18, 2008, 3:53 am PST

01/17 "Get Your Act Together!"

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I agree with the idea of putting a time limit on getting a job, savings ect. I think however, the question is what do you do if they do not comply ? Do you stand your ground and insist that they move out and learn the hard way ?

I can tell you from exp. I had to do just that. My Then 19 yr old, refused to get a job after being fired twice, was belligerent and disrespectful when confronted about work, & bills & had a brush or two with legal issues. I finally had enough & insisted he leave after being particularly verbally abusive. It has now been close to 6 months later. He has found a roommate, does not work, goes to community college - has good grades for the classes he does attend, but essentially not much has changed as far as his sense of responsibility. I've told him if he makes an effort and gets and keeps a job, I'll help him with acquiring a car. Still.. nothing. SO... What do you do ? It kills me to see him living like this.

You know I hate to sound harsh, but do NOTHING, he's I assume over 19 now, he is an adult, and as an adult, he is free to make his own choices, good or bad, some will only learn the hard way.

Now its time for YOU to let go, and realize these are his choices to make.  Seriously, NO ONE wants to see their children suffer, but we do them no favors by bailing them out all the time.

But there is a bright side, he's still quite young, and he has plenty of time to turn this around for HIMSELF, if he CHOOSES.

Son or NOT he has NO RIGHT to verbally abuse you, or FINANCIALLY ABUSE you, and you DO NOT have to take it from him.

His life is his to live now, as Moms we will see our kids do things that make us CRINGE (I'm sure my Mother has a tongue piercing now from biting it so much ), but that's just it, mom is there to vent on or talk to, but she isn't our "PARENT".

Good luck to you though, find your own life, hobby, part time job, whatever find support, he will probably come around if he is FORCED to stand on his own.

 
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January 18, 2008, 4:33 am PST

The Gaming Generation

I foresee that within the next 10 years we will have more men like the slacker on todays show.  Some teens become so addicted to their video games and it becomes such a part of their lives that they cannot mature and "get a job."  I have seen it first hand with my oldest son.  My husband can't even manipulate the controller on one of these systems.  He never misses a day of work and has worked at the same job for 25 years.  My oldest has had many jobs, none last more than 6 months.  He calls in after staying up late playing video games.  He is married and has 2 kids.  He could be on one of these shows.  (Call me!)

 

Not everyone that plays xbox is addicted but for those who are they carry it into adulthood.

 
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January 18, 2008, 5:38 am PST

did anyone notice that

the "gentleman" who was felon (the first couple) looked pretty stoned on the stage.  I was suprised that no comment was made about his affect, his half closed eyes, inappropriate giggles, etc.  If he was stoned on the show, I am sure he does it at home.  It would seem he probably is breaking some kind of  probation agreement by using drugs, if he is, indeed, using.  And sending that loser back to prison would be a good way to get him out of the house!  ONLY, if he is using.  I would not want to accuse him of something he did not do, but he sure looked out of it to me. 
 
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January 18, 2008, 6:23 am PST

frustrated

I know exactly what Brenda and Mike are going through and throwing them out is easier said than done especially if there are children. I have 2 grown daughters sponging off of me. One of them  has 3 little boys. I would love for them to grow up and get their own lives but I dont see it happening any time soon. I am also raising my 12 year old neice whom I have had since birth.  They both have emotional problems and the one with 3 boys also has fibromylgia and chronic migranes. She would love to have her own place and a job but with no transportation it is difficult. County transportation will take her to work but will only transport the kids to daycare when they have enough room on the van which is not very often because around here there are a lot of people out of work. They both have very low self esteem, they are both in counseling.

I cannot just throw them out knowing they have no where to go because we have nobody but ourselves to depend on.

Yes the situation is very frustrating when they are mooching off of you and they have no respect and treat you like you owe them. I get paid once a month and they all expect me to take them out to eat and everything. It getws very tiring. I cant go anywhere except to work without them. They even follow me to my bedroom and sit in there with me and pester me to where I can just barely hear the tv. It is very hard but it is also hard to just throw them out into the streets. I am not a VERY STRONG PERSON ANYWAY.  I am a pushover and i give in very easily. What am I to do?

 
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January 18, 2008, 7:23 am PST

you must not have listened to the show

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I know exactly what Brenda and Mike are going through and throwing them out is easier said than done especially if there are children. I have 2 grown daughters sponging off of me. One of them  has 3 little boys. I would love for them to grow up and get their own lives but I dont see it happening any time soon. I am also raising my 12 year old neice whom I have had since birth.  They both have emotional problems and the one with 3 boys also has fibromylgia and chronic migranes. She would love to have her own place and a job but with no transportation it is difficult. County transportation will take her to work but will only transport the kids to daycare when they have enough room on the van which is not very often because around here there are a lot of people out of work. They both have very low self esteem, they are both in counseling.

I cannot just throw them out knowing they have no where to go because we have nobody but ourselves to depend on.

Yes the situation is very frustrating when they are mooching off of you and they have no respect and treat you like you owe them. I get paid once a month and they all expect me to take them out to eat and everything. It getws very tiring. I cant go anywhere except to work without them. They even follow me to my bedroom and sit in there with me and pester me to where I can just barely hear the tv. It is very hard but it is also hard to just throw them out into the streets. I am not a VERY STRONG PERSON ANYWAY.  I am a pushover and i give in very easily. What am I to do?

very carefully.  Your kids are treating you disrespectfully b/c you have no respect for yourself, i.e. Dr. Phil's ever present true statement that you teach others how to treat you.  The situation is not likely to change unless you do get a backbone and stop being a pushover.  That is what you need to do; go to counseling yourself, or read a good motivating self help book.  Get some friends that will help encourage you to grow a backbone!!
 
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January 18, 2008, 7:28 am PST

Enabling

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My brother and I are living in a very small house with his son, his son's girlfriend and their two children.  They were only suppose to stay here for about two months and now it has been over two years and they only had one child when they moved in.  I am disabled and live on my disability and when they do work it's like pulling teeth to get any money from them for food, bills, etc..  They almost TRY to make you feel guilty for asking for any help.  I'm at my wits end!  What in the world is wrong with these people
Is the house your's or your brother's.  Either way, you both need to do what others have said here....give them 30 days (tops) and mean it.  Guilt should not be part of your emotions here......you are doing them no favors at all by allowing them to use you & your generosity.  If they can't support their children, tell them you will contact the Family Services Dept of your community.   But you DO NOT have any obligations  to take care of those free-loaders.  Face it....you are being used and I'll bet your nephew & his girlfriend think that you & your brother are too stupid to make them get out.  
 

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