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Created on : Friday, January 18, 2008, 02:22:49 pm
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Some teens are catty, mean and love to spread lies, but what happens when gossip goes too far? Kim says her daughter, Kailey, was the victim of a prank. Two of Kailey's cheer squad friends took a picture of her while she was in the shower, and the image supposedly made its way around the football team. Now, in the aftermath, the whole town is buzzing. You won't believe what the fathers of the alleged perpetrators have to say about the incident. Another girl claims she was also a victim when one of the girls took an unwanted photo of her as a joke. Hear from this alleged victim. And, Mandie and Nikki threatened the life of a classmate on MySpace after they thought she was going to steal Nikki's boyfriend. They were convicted in a court of law three years ago, and now both families say they face losing their homes because of this teen gossip. What do the girls say about their actions? And, Elizabeth started a Web site that allows anyone to gossip about anything. When a victim of lies posted on her site tells her story, will Elizabeth change her view? Share your thoughts here.

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January 21, 2008, 8:00 pm PST

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It is very sad and frustrating to see how the two girls that took the picture did not get punished.  Their parents should be ashamed of themselves and should brace themselves for future problems with these girls.  They obviously don't think there will be consequences to their actions, therefore, they will do anything.  These parents are hurting these girls by not teaching them morals and respect for others. 

 

It's a sad and sick world we live in when parents allow their children to hurt others.  I know children can be mean, but, that's where we parents come in, to teach them right from wrong!

 
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January 21, 2008, 8:23 pm PST

Result of Permissive Parents

I am not surprised by the behavior of the two selfish, disgusting girls that take pictures of other girls in their school.  I found the reactions of both fathers pathetic, but predictable.  Obviously, these girl's parents have not held them to a single moral standard.  I appreciate that Dr. Phil has shone the light on the complete lack of responsiblity shown by the parents of the girls.  They don't get it and are raising selfish, nasty people.

 

Too bad for the families that may lose their homes due to their daughter's bad behavior.  I'm glad that was shown, but it won't matter to losers like the parent's outlined in the other story. 

 

 

 
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January 21, 2008, 8:26 pm PST

3 mortgages isn't expensive?????????

Quote From: juliebgg

To the parents who are in danger of losing their homes: If you would have controlled your nasty daughters in the first place you wouldn't be in this mess.  I wouldn't be surprised if these parents were the "girls will be girls" type.  As long as it wasn't THEIR daughters getting picked  on, it was okay, right Mom and Dad??  Did you ever monitor your daughters' behavior, or did you hand them cell phones, and computers and let them run free with them  to do whatever pleased their little hearts?  Were you great "pals" with your daughters exercising no discipline and giving no guidelines on how to be decent human beings so you could look cool to them?  Did you ever use the word "no" to them? Well it looks like their failure to raise decent human beings came back to bite them in the end and in a very expensive way.

I, and my children, (and I'm sure many of you reading this) have been victims. I'm furious enough to spit nails, but i WILL NOT be a victim all my life. i have been sexually molested and verbally abused and I AM the WINNER in life. What will suing get me? It won't make me "feel" better about what happened. But I guess can say "Nyah nyah I won! Woo-hoo", how mature. Those girls got their punishment and served it. Now someone wants to make a buck. Poor mommy (not the victim child) needs to grow up and get a life. My girls have been victims of nasty girls, but MY KIDS are strong and have learned some great lessons about life. 

I'm sure the original author and clones of this mindset were never young and of course never did anything stupid. People DO learn from their mistakes-look at the "beauty queens" whose pictures have shown up! Notice-I answer to God, and that's what we all need to keep in mind.

 
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January 21, 2008, 8:30 pm PST

We Can Only Go By What we were Shown

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you havent the slightest idea of the true facts of the story...

Dr. Phil's response to Kaylie was appalling....get over and move on?  If the girs suspension was not expunged and they were kicked off the cheer team for the year that would be one thing.  But no, their parents intervened, and got the punishment erased.  And Kaylie is just supposed to get over it?  I don't think so. 

 

And as for the father trying to cast doubt that the picture even existed?  Hmmm, if it didn't and this was all a big fat lie, exactly what was your daughter apologizing for in the beginning?  Dad, let me tell you, these girls are in middle school. It's going to get a lot worse if you don't hold your daughter accountable for her actions and words.  Today you make the school put her back on the cheer squad, You want to show Kaylie's mom you understand the seriousness of the situation?  Take the cell phone from your daughter, use it to call the school and have her removed from the squad.  Then Kaylie and her mom know you get it. Otherwise, "sorry" is just an empty word.

 

Having said that, the second situation is very different.  The girls have paid for their crime.  How many times do they have to pay? 

 

Just my opinion

 

 

 
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January 21, 2008, 11:17 pm PST

I find it sad

 I  watched  the  show  and  I  find  it  rather  sad  ,that  the  parents  were  still  pusueing sueing  the  other  girls  parents ,  I  think  those  girls know  unequiviocably  that  the  sentence  handed  them  ,  has  by  and  bye  in  all  this  been  extended  ,and  maybe  will  continue  to  be  extended .   I  will  in  no  way  say  that  what  those  girls  did  should  be  minimized  ,  however  as  deplorable  of  a  offensive mistake  as  it  was   why?  is  it  still  not  over  for  the  girls  who  perpetrated  the  offense ?  from  what  I  saw  it  is  as  if  the  other  parents  have  went  into  overkill  grudgdome !!  toward  the perpetrateing  teens !!  All  that  does  in  actualatity is  keep  it  alive !!  It  is  sad  to  know  that  it  can  be  said  of  the  parents  who  have  continued  to  sue  that  in  FACT  they  harbor  unforgivness  and  a  relentless  grudge !!  they  really  are  not  part  of  the  solvent  solution  ,  maybe  more  of  the  problem  . 
why?
obviously  rather  than  except  the  girls paid  already  for  what  they  did  the  offended  are  not  satisfied  and  wish  a  more  severity  be  given .
thats  simply  put   unwillingness  to  forgive 
I  in  all  sincerity  believe  that  it  is  only  those who  have  never  understood how  deeply  they  have  also  hurt  God  and  those  who  have  never  come  to  terms  with  the  greatness of  his  mercy  toward  them 

who  feel  they  have  an  excuse  to  hold  a  grudge or  to  harbor  unforgiveness .

those  parents  would  do  well  to  remember  the  parable  and  the  verdict  of  Jesus  in  this  case  in  fact 

his  verdict  was  actually  that   because   the  first  servant   would  not  forgive   his  sin  he  would  also   be  held  accountable   to  pay  the  debt  also  .

so  the  option  is  clear 

we  either  forgive 
or  we  will  be  held  liable  for  our  own  debt .

Thats  the  sad  thing  I  realized  when  I  saw  the  show .

Those  girls  will  never  be  able  to  pay  sufficiently  enough  to  satisfy  the  grudge or  the  harbored  unforgiveness  toward  them  for  what  they  did ,

all  they  can  do  is  pay  over  and  over  never  finished  with  their  punishment  they  will  only  find  solace  in  knowing  that  Jesus  will  render  like  verdict  on  the  unforgiveing  and  they  will  be  liable  for  the  debt  of  it  . 

so  it  really  is  not  going  to  much  matter  how  much  the  unwilling  to  forgive sue  for
and  the  other  family  goes  on  paying  the  cost

when  those  parents  recieve  it  back  because  they  were  unwilling  to  forgive 

they will  find  they  themselves   are  without  excuse  ,  because  they  held  a  grudge  of  unwillingness  to  forgive  their  debtors  ,  their  own  trespass  will  be  charged  unto  them 

thats  sad  . 

 
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January 21, 2008, 11:28 pm PST

disfunctional girls!

I was friends with girls like that in high school.  I never did get what they got out of hurting other people until we grew up.  The girls were popular because of their money or because their families were friends with other popular kid's parents.  They weren't necessarily pretty and they did not have the body the boys all looked at, even though given the chance they would loose those clothes every Friday and Saturday night sleeping with anyone who looked their way.  One thing I noticed about their parents was that they had no conscience and they would teach their kids to lie to protect their precious reputations (and these were people I attended  Baptist Church with).  The most powerful thing I have read about parents was from a Devotional Bible, I believe it was Proverbs 13 & Proverbs 23 ... "Undisciplined Children have Undisciplined Parents!"

The 13 year olds on todays show are on a road to complete self-destruction because their parents are not standing up for right and wrong.  I could give you profiles of girls just like them and where their pitiful lives are today.

 
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January 21, 2008, 11:42 pm PST

the second situation

Quote From: pokeysmom

Dr. Phil's response to Kaylie was appalling....get over and move on?  If the girs suspension was not expunged and they were kicked off the cheer team for the year that would be one thing.  But no, their parents intervened, and got the punishment erased.  And Kaylie is just supposed to get over it?  I don't think so. 

 

And as for the father trying to cast doubt that the picture even existed?  Hmmm, if it didn't and this was all a big fat lie, exactly what was your daughter apologizing for in the beginning?  Dad, let me tell you, these girls are in middle school. It's going to get a lot worse if you don't hold your daughter accountable for her actions and words.  Today you make the school put her back on the cheer squad, You want to show Kaylie's mom you understand the seriousness of the situation?  Take the cell phone from your daughter, use it to call the school and have her removed from the squad.  Then Kaylie and her mom know you get it. Otherwise, "sorry" is just an empty word.

 

Having said that, the second situation is very different.  The girls have paid for their crime.  How many times do they have to pay? 

 

Just my opinion

 

 

 I  have  to  wholeheardely agree !!  the  girls  who  already  paid  for  there crime  ,  who  now  fear  having  to  pay  again  ,  will  find  that  in  fact  there  is  no  price  that  will  ever  be  enough  !!  and  it  is  all  due  to  the  fact  that  they  are  unforgiven  by  the  victim  .  That  victim  will  always  remain  just  a  victim  because  they  are  unwilling  to  forgive !!  That  can  later  have  more  worse  in  severity  consequences  .  Its  not  like  that  victim  is  doing  themself  any  favors  in  the  long  run  .  In  that  part  of  the  picture  the  BIG  picture  they  will  instead  find  they  are  liable  their  own   all  due  to  their  own  inability  to  forgive  .
If  you  do  not  forgive  you  can  not  be  forgiven  , the  Lord  Jesus  himself  rendered  verdict  on  the  unwilling  to  forgive  !!  .  All  those  girls  who  are  still  being  punished  can  do  is just  find  solace  in  accepting  that  they  must  choose  to  even  forgive  the  unwilling  to  forgive  ,and  know  that  whatever  debt  those  may  owe  also  in  addition  they  are  liable  for  the  unforgiven  ones  they  render  upon  the  guilty  .   what  a  sad  case  !!  thats  whats  truly   appaling  !! 
to  the  ones  unwilling  to  forgive  I  feel  pity  morso  on  them  than  the  victim

why?

simply  because  they  will  also  in  like  manner  find  their  own  unforgiven 
because  they  choose  it
they  chose  not  to  forgive
they therfore  can  not  be themselves
thats  a  sentence  they rendered  upon  their  own  heads
bar  none  far  worse  than  the  offense  in  and  of  itself
yet  they  realize  it  NOT !! 
and  in  their  relentlessness  repent  not  for  it
they  truly  owe  a  greater  debt
and  dont  realize  that  part  in  it .
how  truly  sad  !!!  for  the  victim
they  will  never  be  anything  more  than  a  victim
always  on  the  recieving  end 
even  when  they  meet  Jesus
all  because  they  would  not  forgive  their  debtor  their  debt  !! 
 
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January 22, 2008, 12:00 am PST

looseing a home is not the danger

Quote From: juliebgg

To the parents who are in danger of losing their homes: If you would have controlled your nasty daughters in the first place you wouldn't be in this mess.  I wouldn't be surprised if these parents were the "girls will be girls" type.  As long as it wasn't THEIR daughters getting picked  on, it was okay, right Mom and Dad??  Did you ever monitor your daughters' behavior, or did you hand them cell phones, and computers and let them run free with them  to do whatever pleased their little hearts?  Were you great "pals" with your daughters exercising no discipline and giving no guidelines on how to be decent human beings so you could look cool to them?  Did you ever use the word "no" to them? Well it looks like their failure to raise decent human beings came back to bite them in the end and in a very expensive way.
 the  parents  in  danger  of  looseing  their  home  dear  is  in  far  less  danger  than those  parents  who  have  continued  to  bring  further charges  .

How  so  you  may  ask ?

here  is  how  so

the  parable  of  the  servants
the  verdict  given  by  the  king  of  all  kings
Jesus  the  Christ  himself

thats  how  so

so  I  beg  to  differ  in  opinion  on  where  the  ignorance  is  here 

It  is  clear that  in  fact  it  is  only those  who  have  never  understood
how  deeply they  themself  have  hurt  God
and  those  who  have  never  come  come  to  terms
with  the  greatness  of  his  mercy
toward  them 
who feel  they  have  an  excuse
to  hold  a grudge
or  to  harbor  relentless  unforgiveness  of  anothers  debt
they  feel  the  one  owes .
woe  be  to  them !! 
they  will  be  charged  accordingly
and  rightly !!  I  may  add !!
you  see
they  will  not  be  forgiven
why?
because  they  chose  not  to  forgive
others  their  trespass
they  shall likewise
be  charged  with  their  own
 so  in  truth
it  is  not  the  parents  in  danger of  loosing  their home  or  their  girls who  committed  a  grievious sin  against  the  others  that  need  fear  !! 
It  is  more  so  the parents  and  their   victimized children
that  will  be  the  lesser in  all  ways 
they  have  taught  unforgiveness
they  can  not  themselves  be  forgiven
they  may  never  pay  the  world
but  they  will  pay  the  king
how  sad  a  choice

and  the  moral  is
forgive  and  you  will  be  forgiven
sad  most  are  so  ignorant  they  dont  know  that principle
 
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January 22, 2008, 12:12 am PST

in my opinion

 In  my  opinion  about  the Gossip  board  that  Elizebeth  started . 
Its  a  temptation  of  one  of  the  seven  deadly  sins
and  no  one  with  a  conscience 
the  size  of  a grain  of salt
would  go  there
and  join  in  on  that perpetual  downward  spiraling
grud  seeping  into  the  sewer
leaving  a  foul  smelling  stench .
you  could  in  fact drink  sewage
and  it  would  not  defile  you
oh!!  but  the  tongue
that  small  muscle  you  so  loosely  ignore
without  a  thought  of  control
that  is the  little  member
that  can  set  fire  to  your  own  soul
choose  wisely 
gossip  is  no  small  crime
and  the  statement
oh  everybody  does  it
not  if  they  have  any  conscience  sense
as  to  what  they  are  doing !!! 

raise  the  bar  folks

Just  say  no !!

and  dont  do  it .

everything  will  cost  you  something !!! 

choose  wisely

Its  your  own  choice
 
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January 22, 2008, 1:31 am PST

For Kim

When I was in jr. year of Catholic High, I suffered thru three horrible years.  One older boy in particular loved to torture me at our lunch period every day.

Slamming condiment packets, exchanging broken chairs, making ‘moo’ sounds, nothing stopped this boy.

Mom and I would complain but nothing except ‘a talking to’ would be given.  One day, the ring leader of this group put an industrial broom between his legs, placed an oversized black plastic baggie on it and put it up my uniform skirt as I was walking up a stair case.

The roar was so loud from the laughing that I stopped to look around to see what was going on, when I saw the broom slip from under my skirt.  I was humiliated as any 16yo big girl could be.

It was my grandmother who talked me back from the edge as only she could do.  She taught me that when people got to thinking about what was done to me, they would realize just how bad that really was to do to a person.  And the best thing for me to do would be forgive him and learn from it.  To teach others if I saw it, not to do that to a person.  She finished up by telling me that God would never allow us to carry anything that we couldn’t handle.

Years later, I got an unfamiliar email that just happened to come from that same boy who, now a man wanted to ask my forgiveness for all the mean things he did to me.  He never forgot how nasty and mean he was, how I never gave it back to him; I always had grace and forgave him.  He felt so horrible especially lately.  He has twin girls, one of whom is very heavy and they are 16yo.  The heavy one is being teased horribly and he just thinks about what he did to me back then as he wipes the tears from his baby girl’s face.

‘I would never wish what you did to me on anyone else’, I told him and that I had learned from what he did to me not to ever treat another human being like that and to prevent it when I could.  I forgave him back then and still do.

In time Kim, your daughter will feel the sting of this less and less. She needs you to shine thru her dark clouds.  She needs her mom to put a spin on this, not to brush it under the carpet but to be there for her with a hug and a smile and talk about how she could help to prevent something like this from ever happening again to her or her friends. 

The girl is labeled who took the pic…. she won’t get near other people with her phone in hand now!

 
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