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Created on : Friday, January 18, 2008, 02:22:49 pm
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Some teens are catty, mean and love to spread lies, but what happens when gossip goes too far? Kim says her daughter, Kailey, was the victim of a prank. Two of Kailey's cheer squad friends took a picture of her while she was in the shower, and the image supposedly made its way around the football team. Now, in the aftermath, the whole town is buzzing. You won't believe what the fathers of the alleged perpetrators have to say about the incident. Another girl claims she was also a victim when one of the girls took an unwanted photo of her as a joke. Hear from this alleged victim. And, Mandie and Nikki threatened the life of a classmate on MySpace after they thought she was going to steal Nikki's boyfriend. They were convicted in a court of law three years ago, and now both families say they face losing their homes because of this teen gossip. What do the girls say about their actions? And, Elizabeth started a Web site that allows anyone to gossip about anything. When a victim of lies posted on her site tells her story, will Elizabeth change her view? Share your thoughts here.

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January 22, 2008, 4:45 am PST

01/21 Real Life Gossip Girls

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it was my understanding that the pictures were taken in a private residence as well, and that the teens that were invited into that home were under the care and protection of the home owners, since the teens involved were obviously minors...that would mean that the persons responsabil would be the parents.

So like the other case that was addressed if this was my child and this happened while she was in the care of other adults I most definatly would be brining those parents to account for negligence.

Yes the teens that commited this demoralizing and shaming act should be held accountable and punished for the deed as well, but the parents need to be held accountable too, they were in a position of trust and authority and failed miserably.

Why is the picture not available? I do not know, what I do know is that there is a lesson to be learned here, and hopefully young teens that are contemplating pulling similar stunts take a minute to think about the consequences. However, like one poster had already stated the consequences were nil and void, that is a real shame.

Unlike the other individuals who are being sued, a hefty price to pay for uttering death threats, and in such a public way.. geez, again a lesson to be learned and a pricy one at that.

However, with all the teen violence that is being perpetrated today, i can not say that I am against the price that is being paid. I just wish that it was all encompassing and not a pick and choose situation..

Did this young lady that the threats were made against feel real fear even terror? I bet she did, and that is just wrong to instill fear into individuals to make them comply with your wants, needs, or desires, it is just wrong.

I suppose the bottom line is untill a child is of an age were they are soley responsible for themselves, parents have to realize that what their children do while under their care and guidance is their responsabilty too, hard lesson for these girls.

My thoughts on the matter.

Dr.Phil I am glad that you came and spoke about what the media has been stating as fact, misrepresented, misconstrued or what have you, it still is good that you clarified to us fans the shmozzle that happened in regards to britney. And yes you are still the Dr. lol never heard of a phd being taken away from some one who legitimatley earned it, and they can not take away the years of experience that you have gained, glad to see you taking this in stride eventhough it probably caused you pause and moments of uncomfort and maybe even thought to your self What the hell were they thinking lol, in any event still a big fan of yours keep up the good work.

Tammy

 

I, too, am glad that DrP spoke out in defense of his actions. I am constantly ragged on for being a DrP fan. A lot of my friends and family don't like him. They make fun of me for watching him. Of course , a lot of that is my own fault for constantly talking about the show or something that interested me on the show. I guess because I am a fan, I hold DrP to a certain standard. I wanted him to come out and say something publicly about his actions concerning Britney. I couldn't see that he had done anything wrong. I don't mean to sound paranoid, but, as with other celebrities, I think there are certain factions who would like to see DrP fail. So, they are going to find fault with anything they can.

 

 
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January 22, 2008, 4:50 am PST

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I, and my children, (and I'm sure many of you reading this) have been victims. I'm furious enough to spit nails, but i WILL NOT be a victim all my life. i have been sexually molested and verbally abused and I AM the WINNER in life. What will suing get me? It won't make me "feel" better about what happened. But I guess can say "Nyah nyah I won! Woo-hoo", how mature. Those girls got their punishment and served it. Now someone wants to make a buck. Poor mommy (not the victim child) needs to grow up and get a life. My girls have been victims of nasty girls, but MY KIDS are strong and have learned some great lessons about life. 

I'm sure the original author and clones of this mindset were never young and of course never did anything stupid. People DO learn from their mistakes-look at the "beauty queens" whose pictures have shown up! Notice-I answer to God, and that's what we all need to keep in mind.

Again, if these parents raised these kids to be decent human beings in the first place, the girls would not have done what they did and therefore there would be no backlash at the parents.  Maybe a big wake up call is exactly what many of today's parents need.  These days there seem to be such limited consequences for horrible actions.  The cheerleaders who photographed their friend not only got away with it, but were reinstated to the cheerleading squad (where they can continue to spread good spirit) but now have "Daddy" calling them brave and putting them into a victim role.  What a disgrace that instead of teaching these girls that they did something wrong they have big Daddy defending them. Yank away the computer and the cell phones from your spoiled princesses until they prove that they can act with responsibility and decency towards other human beings.  Give them CONSEQUENCES for their actions!!!!  Both the school and the bully-parents failed in dealing appropriately with these thug girls. 

Heavier consequences to both the kids, and the parents who failed in their jobs to raise decent human beings may be exactly what this world needs to stop the excuses, defending of nasty kids who don't deserve it, and maybe even the nasty behaviors they display toward others.

Do I feel sorry for the parents who are getting sued?  No I don't.  The world needs much more accountability for both kids and their parents.  Is it harsh?  Yes.  But maybe if people understand that they aren't going to get away with this type of stuff they will take an active role in teaching their kids to be decent human beings.

 
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January 22, 2008, 5:24 am PST

Girls Can Be Downright NASTY

I experienced a similar situation last year at my daughter's school.  My daughter was assaulted numerous times at school and at a school event.  She wasn't even offered medical attention by the school nurse!  Granted, she didn't make a good choice and come home and tell me, but she did go to the administration.  They did absolutely nothing.  I had to hire an attorney, press criminal charges against the the girl who assaulted my daughter and threaten the school district with legal action if they did not remove this child from the general population and place her in an alternative school faclity.  Even after school let out, my daughter was assaulted again, by this same girl, and it was videoed with a cell phone.  It was all over My Space in no time.  This time my daughter called me and we immediately went to the police station and the hospital.  Because this girl is considered a "special education" student, she can only be suspended for a maximum of 15 cumulative school days.  I spent countless hours on the phone with the Dept. of Education and, thank God, they were very cooperative and gave me the information I needed to deal effectively with the school district and juvenille probation.  As of this point, the girl will not be returning to my daughter's building, but if she does, I will be forced to proceed with the legal aspect.  The first words in our Student Handbook's mission statement is to "provide a safe environment" and they have failed miserably in that department.  This does not just apply to my daughter, but to many other students.  I honestly feel that if I had not been willing to go to court, and take my chances, this would have been swept under the rug along with all of the other incidents that have happened in our district.  The school is finally aware that I don't want my child to be the "Poster Child" for school violence, but I honestly feel that parents are kept in the dark so that nobody makes waves and brings unwanted publicity to the fact that schools aren't doing their jobs by keeping our children safe and educating them.  I have assured them that I will not settle out of court and sign a confidentiality agreement... I don't care if I get a penny, I just want parents to be aware that our children are being victimized and ignored.
 
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January 22, 2008, 5:52 am PST

Website - GossipReport.com

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What was the web site address for Elizabeth's gossip site??????????
 
 
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January 22, 2008, 5:55 am PST

Site Name

Hi all!

The name of the gossip site is GossipReport.com. Check it out!

Thanks for watching the show -

Elizabeth
 
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January 22, 2008, 6:14 am PST

Well Put My Friend

Quote From: 1000wings

 the  parents  in  danger  of  looseing  their  home  dear  is  in  far  less  danger  than those  parents  who  have  continued  to  bring  further charges  .

How  so  you  may  ask ?

here  is  how  so

the  parable  of  the  servants
the  verdict  given  by  the  king  of  all  kings
Jesus  the  Christ  himself

thats  how  so

so  I  beg  to  differ  in  opinion  on  where  the  ignorance  is  here 

It  is  clear that  in  fact  it  is  only those  who  have  never  understood
how  deeply they  themself  have  hurt  God
and  those  who  have  never  come  come  to  terms
with  the  greatness  of  his  mercy
toward  them 
who feel  they  have  an  excuse
to  hold  a grudge
or  to  harbor  relentless  unforgiveness  of  anothers  debt
they  feel  the  one  owes .
woe  be  to  them !! 
they  will  be  charged  accordingly
and  rightly !!  I  may  add !!
you  see
they  will  not  be  forgiven
why?
because  they  chose  not  to  forgive
others  their  trespass
they  shall likewise
be  charged  with  their  own
 so  in  truth
it  is  not  the  parents  in  danger of  loosing  their home  or  their  girls who  committed  a  grievious sin  against  the  others  that  need  fear  !! 
It  is  more  so  the parents  and  their   victimized children
that  will  be  the  lesser in  all  ways 
they  have  taught  unforgiveness
they  can  not  themselves  be  forgiven
they  may  never  pay  the  world
but  they  will  pay  the  king
how  sad  a  choice

and  the  moral  is
forgive  and  you  will  be  forgiven
sad  most  are  so  ignorant  they  dont  know  that principle
In this legalistic society we live in "Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us" doesn't hold up.  Forgiveness all around would bring much healing.  The 2 girls being sued were certainly asking for forgiveness and acknowledging their "trespass." 
 
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January 22, 2008, 6:27 am PST

they learn

kids copying mom and dad's world view
 
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January 22, 2008, 7:28 am PST

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To the parents who are in danger of losing their homes: If you would have controlled your nasty daughters in the first place you wouldn't be in this mess.  I wouldn't be surprised if these parents were the "girls will be girls" type.  As long as it wasn't THEIR daughters getting picked  on, it was okay, right Mom and Dad??  Did you ever monitor your daughters' behavior, or did you hand them cell phones, and computers and let them run free with them  to do whatever pleased their little hearts?  Were you great "pals" with your daughters exercising no discipline and giving no guidelines on how to be decent human beings so you could look cool to them?  Did you ever use the word "no" to them? Well it looks like their failure to raise decent human beings came back to bite them in the end and in a very expensive way.

You have got to be kidding me....parents cannot watch their teenagers 24 hrs a day!!! Do you have teens?

If you don't you better be careful before you judge!!! Lots of teens have discipline and guidelines and they

still don't follow.... You make me sick being so judgemental!!! They were very wrong but things happen beyond the parents control some time!!!

 
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January 22, 2008, 8:44 am PST

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 I happen to be off of work today and caught this show. I live in the bordering school district from which the My space girls attend. I was very moved by the story and feel it should be shown at school to preteens/teens. It's real vs "my mom says" . That being said,  Obviously, to bash these parents you must be one of those "Perfect" parents of "perfect" kids. I have a preteen daughter and a teenage son. My husband and I monitor their freinds, their emails, their phones, etc. We attend all of their school events and we are NOT absent parents trying to be their best friends. However... I would never say that with my diligence they will do nothing wrong. They are kids. Kids do things without thinking it through..so do a lot of adults for that matter. If my daughter or son made this type of mistake it would not be because we haven't talked about it or the consequences. It is just that these kids get in the moment and get caught up in wrong behavior.  To sue a family over teenage verbal threats goes beyond "making them be accountable for their actions"(that happened in court) and says to me.. "let me profit from this".  To blame the parents for the girls immature mistakes is wrong.   I also am not an idiot who feels "kids will be kids" but I am one who says we all have to make mistakes to learn right from wrong.  As a parent, I only hope that my children's mistakes are minor ones. Children will make Mistakes.. regardless of parenting. The parents who feel that they are supreme parenting masters and because of this their children would never do anything wrong.. shouldn't crow so loud because you just never know.  The internet has opened up a new avenue for all types of wrong behavior but it most likely isn't new behavior just accessible by more people. 

Excellent post!!!  Don't you just want to scream when you read those posts? But I actually find them somewhat amusing....because these PERFECT parents don't have a clue what their PERFECT kids are really doing.

 
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January 22, 2008, 8:50 am PST

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Quote From: imsighing

 I happen to be off of work today and caught this show. I live in the bordering school district from which the My space girls attend. I was very moved by the story and feel it should be shown at school to preteens/teens. It's real vs "my mom says" . That being said,  Obviously, to bash these parents you must be one of those "Perfect" parents of "perfect" kids. I have a preteen daughter and a teenage son. My husband and I monitor their freinds, their emails, their phones, etc. We attend all of their school events and we are NOT absent parents trying to be their best friends. However... I would never say that with my diligence they will do nothing wrong. They are kids. Kids do things without thinking it through..so do a lot of adults for that matter. If my daughter or son made this type of mistake it would not be because we haven't talked about it or the consequences. It is just that these kids get in the moment and get caught up in wrong behavior.  To sue a family over teenage verbal threats goes beyond "making them be accountable for their actions"(that happened in court) and says to me.. "let me profit from this".  To blame the parents for the girls immature mistakes is wrong.   I also am not an idiot who feels "kids will be kids" but I am one who says we all have to make mistakes to learn right from wrong.  As a parent, I only hope that my children's mistakes are minor ones. Children will make Mistakes.. regardless of parenting. The parents who feel that they are supreme parenting masters and because of this their children would never do anything wrong.. shouldn't crow so loud because you just never know.  The internet has opened up a new avenue for all types of wrong behavior but it most likely isn't new behavior just accessible by more people. 

Excellent post!!!  Don't you just want to scream when you read those posts? But I actually find them somewhat amusing....because these PERFECT parents don't have a clue what their PERFECT kids are really doing.

 
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