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Topic : 01/24 "I Want Out!"

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Created on : Friday, January 18, 2008, 02:26:08 pm
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When couples tie the knot, they vow to stay together "'til death do us part," but what happens when a marriage takes a few bad turns, and one partner desperately wants out? Dr. Phil's guests are at a crossroads in their marriages. Hector and Nicole have been married nine years, and Nicole says she's done with the marriage, no longer loves her husband and has a boyfriend to prove it! Hector says he loves his wife and is desperate to save his marriage. He's even paid thousands for Nicole to have plastic surgery! Can Dr. Phil convince Nicole to give up her lover and give her marriage another shot? And, Shaun wants to dump his wife, Nancy, for good because he says she stalks him and throws herself in front of the door to keep him from leaving. Nancy is convinced Shaun still loves her, and she's hoping they can resurrect their union. Is there hope for this couple, or should they walk away? Tell us what you think.

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March 11, 2008, 2:36 pm PDT

01/24 "I Want Out!"

Quote From: man4christ

Ramair you are very invested in talking evil about Nicole. I wonder if you have experienced something closely related.

 

If you read the entire message, I am not condoning her behavior. However is she is not a strong Christian, I can understand how easy it would be to fall into this type of sin after already having low self esteem and an abusive husband. There is never an excuse for shoving a pillow in a wife's face. The bible teaches that woman are the weaker vessel - usually physically - and with that said there is not an excuse to do that to his wife. His wife should also be the most important woman in the world to him and thus he should treat her accordingly regardless of how she is treating him.

 

I wanted to explain sowing and reaping because it is a spiritual principle that if widely understood would bring a lot of joy and understanding to people's lives. Wicked, simple, and foolish people, according to Proverbs, are not interested in understanding. They are only interested in talking and opinions.

 

Since you have responded to me, I want to thank you. And I want to share with you that you will be on my prayer list and we will be praying - RIGHT NOW - for your (Ramair's) salvation, for harvesters to be sent into your life, and for your anger and hurt to be healed. Thank you so much for your response because that means you are thinking about what I wrote and I am enjoying the opportunity to pray for you.

You're praying for my salvation? Pretty judgemental, aren't you? FYI, I've been saved ever since 6:50 pm, August  17th, 1981. Just because I write something you don't agree with doesn't mean I'm going to bust Hell wide open.
 
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March 13, 2008, 12:21 pm PDT

01/24 "I Want Out!"

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If you are a "Man of Christ",  and feel the need to write soooo much (way too much), why didn't you say ONE word about her abortion???  Any true Christian would have been more saddened by that, instead of their bad marriage.  Man, you need a big wakeup call from God!  Stop preaching...you are bad at it!

It is pretty bad preaching when it's being used to excuse someone's behavior on the basic of another's. Two wrongs, I don't care if you're a Christian, a Buddhist, or an athiest, do not make a right.
And, isn't it "funny" that, in some of his later posts, he seeks collective "prayer" for the "salvation" of you, me, and I'll bet others, who have posted something he doesn't agree with. Making judgement calls that are God's domain.
 
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April 6, 2008, 6:19 am PDT

CRUELTY - MANIPULATIONS - HATRED - RAGE - REVENGE

Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) is a psychological disorder characterized by pervasive instability in self-image, behavior, moods, and interpersonal relationships.  This instability often disrupts family and work life, long-term planning, and the individual's sense of self-identity. 

 

While less known than schizophrenia or bipolar disorder (manic-depressive illness), BPD is more common, affecting 2% of adults (1-33), mostly females.  Some of my favorite books that provide a great introduction and insight are:

 

 

Emotional Blackmail:  When the People in Your Life Use Fear, Obligation and Guilt to Manipulate You by Susan Forward AND Why is it Always About You?  The Seven Deadly Sins of Narcissism by Sandy Hotchkiss

 

Get Me Out of Here:  My Recovery from Borderline Personality Disorder by Rachel Reiland OR Girl Interrupted by Susanna Kaysen OR Stop Walking on Eggshells:  Taking Your Life Back...by Paul Mason and Randi Kreger

 

Understanding the Borderline (Parent) Mother:  Helping Her Children Transcend the Intense, Unpredictable and Volatile Relationship by Christine Ann Lawson OR Surviving a Borderline Parent:  How to Heal Your Childhood Wounds & Build Trust, Boundaries and Self-Esteem by Kimberlee Roth and Freda Friedman

 

Overcoming Passive-Aggression:  How to Stop Hidden Anger from Spoiling Your Relationships...by Tim Murphy and Loriann Oberlin

 

High Conflict People in Legal Disputes by Bill Eddy OR Divorce Poison:  Protecting the Parent-Child Bond from a Vindictive (Relative) Ex by Richard Warshak  

 

 

Some of the story is typical:  feelings of insecurity contributing to destructive behaviors such as promiscuity, manipulations, self-abuse, rage attacks, revenge, addictions, and eating disorders.  The extreme behaviors of BPD constitute the high drama in the stories of those who endure its ravages.

 

Though harder to spot, emotional abuse is easier to deny.  But just as physical abuse has signposts to mark its presence, emotional abuse, being a systematic attack on one's sense of self, has common traits.  Physical abuse comes in degrees of severity - emotional abuse also runs the gamut of intensity and damage.

 

Hope it helps!

 

 

 
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