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When couples tie the knot, they vow to stay together "'til death do us part," but what happens when a marriage takes a few bad turns, and one partner desperately wants out? Dr. Phil's guests are at a crossroads in their marriages. Hector and Nicole have been married nine years, and Nicole says she's done with the marriage, no longer loves her husband and has a boyfriend to prove it! Hector says he loves his wife and is desperate to save his marriage. He's even paid thousands for Nicole to have plastic surgery! Can Dr. Phil convince Nicole to give up her lover and give her marriage another shot? And, Shaun wants to dump his wife, Nancy, for good because he says she stalks him and throws herself in front of the door to keep him from leaving. Nancy is convinced Shaun still loves her, and she's hoping they can resurrect their union. Is there hope for this couple, or should they walk away? Tell us what you think.

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January 24, 2008, 2:20 pm PST

I Want Out Also!

 

              I was watching Dr. Phil with the headline "I Want Out!", and I see myself in that predicament. I have been with the father of my children for 9 1/2 years, but before I get into that mess; let me back up a little. I had a son when i was 16 years old, his father was there for me when he wanted to be, he never attempted to get a job, Oh he'd lie to me and said he put in applications but little did he know that I checked on them and they never heard of him. So I had to live with my mother and stepfather, go to night school and get a job and save money to get out on my own. Well that didn't happen, having a cesarean at my age took a very long time to heal. So after a year of bed rest, losing my job, stop going to school, trying to be there for my son, I was at wits end. I needed a way out of this mess, my mom is stressing me out, my stepfather needed money. Well once I was able to go to work, I was there for 6 months and I got noticed by a guy and he asked me out. I was so apprehensive because of my previous relationship, but I also needed a way out. So after dating for 6 months, I got pregnant, I was beside myself because I was unsure if I wanted to continue this relationship. I waited two weeks to tell him because I needed time to think. I felt that I was trapped, I did not want to live with my mother and burden her more than I had. So i made a go of the relationship, deep down I had this feeling of regret and it still haunts me to this day. It was not love at first sight for him, I tried to fall in love with him but It became difficult and aggravating at times. He worked a lot, about 8 to 10 hours a day, while I took care of three children by myself, housework, not having a car to go places, dragging myself and three children out to go to the store, no one my age to talk to, feeling isolated even when he was home I felt that he was not there. I got up every time when my children needed something, whether it was 2 am in the morning. I toughed it out, still living with this regret, growing more depressed. I needed my family around me to keep me sane, but he did not want my family around. I tried my best to raise the children with the proper standards, it's not easy alone, with their behavior problems today I get blamed from him immediately. "Well you should have done this...Should have done that" Where was he in this discipline time of needs?

    He proposed to me when our oldest daughter was two years old, at his younger brother's wedding reception 7 years ago. I accepted thinking it would be a new fresh start, no more bitterness, regrets, loneliness, blame. Well my wedding day never came after waiting for 7 years i grew more bitter and annoyed every time i see or hear about weddings. He made it all about him and his statistics and fears about marriage. He was stratigising about divorces and how he knew a lot of people who are going through it. To my understanding marriage is about Love and Commitment, Not about how many divorces are rising each year. I am done with the Idea of marriage (at least with him), I am on my third engagement ring from him, I do not value them as a girl in love should, I feel it is a constant reminder of all the years of waiting for My Day that will never come as long as i am with him.  The past two years have been hell on me, I had a mild stroke due to stress, I tell him about it and all he could say was "I had a mild stroke also because i am working too much and stressed out over bills and dealing with the kids." I was awestruck-ed by that, he had no concernment or offered to help me out.

    I told my friends and family about what happened and were disgusted by his reaction. For years my friends and family tried to convince me to leave him, I stuck through it for my children sake, and now I am sooo tired of sticking it out. I need that attention, someone who makes me feel excited when they come home from work, helps around the house, helps with the children, Who will accept my son as their own and not belittle him because he has comprehending issues, be interested in his world and do things as a father and son do. My son has grew up bitter and angry towards his stepfather, he knows of his biological father and how he turned his back on us, i feel that if I don't get out of this relationship, my son will hurt himself or run away. When his stepfather is away, my son is lively and happy but when his stepfather gets home, my son gets tensed and isolated in his room.  I feel it is too late to rekindle any feelings, after everything I, my children have been through I don't love him, I constantly think of leaving to be on my own. When he tries to be intimate with me I make excuses until it leads into arguments, then I just give in to get him off my case. There is no warmth and compassion, just resentment, regret, bitterness, annoyed by just looking at or hearing him. So after 9 1/2 years of this it will ultimately result into me moving in with my mother yet again. But at least I will be happy knowing that I can do what I wanted to do for the longest time, go to college, get a car of my own, get a better job and have fun with my children, visit my family that i have been isolated from for years now. The way my children act around their father, it will not be a difficult break-up, he's hardly around them to build a bondful relationship.

   So in regards to Hector's wife, i know exactly where she is coming from when she has no remorse, warmth and even heartache feelings towards Hector, if she started this marriage with regret, there is no rekindling if those feeling of love are not there to begin with. Of course she'd reach out to another man, I did only because i was looking for a way out of my situation. If the guy treated me like gold, the merrier, if he was good to my kids, bonus!* It feels great to get that positive attention instead of criticism and loneliness and being constantly reminded of regret.  Plus she probably has no money to move out on her own with two children, so she found a guy who has a place already. It take months before she'd even get a check for child support and alimony and even a job. I just gotta say to all those young people out there, Think Really Hard about What you Want in Life, And Be Careful Who You Choose to Spend Your Life With.! It Could Waste Your Life Away If You're NOT CAREFUL!

 
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January 24, 2008, 2:21 pm PST

THE MARRIAGE CAN WORK!

I HOPE NICOLE SEES THIS...NICOLE I TOO HAVE BEEN WHERE YOU HAVE BEEN...A CHEATING HUSBAND MORE THAN ONCE TOO...PLUS OTHER THINGS LIKE INTERNET PORN AND STRIP CLUBS. HE TO WAS ABUSIVE AND CRUEL BUT I TRIED. ONE DAY I HAD ENOUGH I TOO MY HUSBAND LEFT ME THEN 2 MONTHS LATER I STEPPED OUT OF MY MARRIAGE...IT WAS THE WORST THING POSSIBLE! HE WAS A WORSE CHEAT AND A HORRIBLE PERSON. MY HUSBAND AND I AFTER BEING SEPARATED FOR 6 MONTHS AND ONLY ONE COURT DATE AWAY FROM DIVORCE DECIDED TO GIVE IT ANOTHER TRY. WELL IT HAS BEEN 2 YEARS SINCE THEN AND I CAN TELL YOU WE ARE HAPPILY MARRIED! IT DOES TAKE TIME TO HEAL AND TRUST BUT IT IS WORTH IT IN THE END. BELIEVE ME IF YOU LEAVE UNFINISHED WITH A MAN THAT WOULD SLEEP WITH A MARRIED WOMAN IT WILL NOT BE ANY BETTER. YOUR CHILDREN WILL THANK YOU FOR AT LEAST TRYING EVEN IF YOU DECIDE YOU CANT STAY. JUST DON'T LEAVE AND GO STRAIGHT TO ANOTHER MAN. ITS GREAT TO BE ON YOUR OWN AND LEARN ABOUT YOURSELF. ITS NOT SO SCARY WHEN YOU ARE ACTUALLY ALONE. I WAS SCARED TO BUT FOUND MYSELF AND THE STRENGTH TO FORGIVE MY HUSBAND. HE IS NOW A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PERSON AND I LOVE HIM SO MUCH. HE NOW SAYS HE OWES ME SO MUCH FOR WHAT HE HAS DONE TO HURT ME AND I DO NOT MAKE HIM FEEL HE OWES ME ITS ALL ON HIS OWN. ANYWAY I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS CAN WORK AND BE WONDERFUL. IF YOUR HUSBAND IS REALLY WILLING TO WORK ON HIMSELF THEN GIVE IT A CHANCE. YOU WILL FIND THAT AFTER BEING THROUGH SO MUCH TOGETHER YOU WONT WANT TO BE WITH ANYONE ELSE.

HOPE THIS HELPS!!

 
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January 24, 2008, 2:28 pm PST

I want out

I have a question did anyone see at the very end of Todays show (Thursday) there was a memorial to someone who passed away?? Does anyone know if that was for someone who was on the show? Thanks if you can answer if you know!!!

Erin

 
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January 24, 2008, 2:29 pm PST

01/24 "I Want Out!"

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I think the main reason for the 90 days is for her to drop the other man. You know ,she does need to break it off with the other man before she proceeds with a divorce. She really needs the time to make a plan for herself as to how she is going to move forward. She'll need to get a job,find a place to live, and that sort of thing.I don't think she and Hector can work things out. The fact is, if Hector had a problem with reading her diary about something that happened before she met him, he will definitely not be able to move past this affair with the current man. 

my experience-  the day i asked my ex husband for a separation, he decided it was a good idea to assualt me.  i left for a day or so and had to listen the whole time to others talk about how i should give it a chance, try to work things out.  at 2 a.m. the morning after i came back to discuss things with him and see what could be done, he then has another stroke of violent genius- he rapes me at knifepoint.  i'm thinking that perhaps Doc's whole idea behind the 90 days is to get those unresolved feelings out that he talked about so that she can leave in peace, which would be good for the children; however, i could see how pressured she felt having to make that decision right then and there on the show and that wasn't right.  if anything, try to get those things resolved that need to be for the good of the children but by no means remain in a home with a man who dares to put a pillow over your face!!!  there's other ways of resolving issues without living in fear of your life.  telephone and scheduled councelling for example.

 
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January 24, 2008, 2:31 pm PST

GROW UP, NICOLE. You're supposed to be an adult

Nicole is no different than all the male LOSERS who think that just because there are problems in a marriage (and EVEN a separation), the vows before God don't mater. Sadly, it's often the children of these immoral, immature, selfish, irresponsible "adults' who pay the price.

 

As Dr. Phil has ALWAYS said, You don't leave a marriage until you've done EVERYTHING to save it. And you do NOT ever go outside the marriage.

 

It takes two to have a great marriage, a fair marriage and a lousy marriage. If a marriage is over, it should ONLY be over after EVERYTHING was done to save the marriage. And if it IS over after that, than NO OTHER RELATIONSHIP should start until the divorce is long over!

 

I am SO SICK of adulterous men and women. I have been married to a great man for 18 years, but I've sadly had to go thru 2 divorces with friends whose husbands had girlfriends and just wanted out. BOth women were taken by surprise and neither deserved that. And in both cases, the kids have suffered. All of this is due to SELFISHNESS and IMMATURITY on the part of the one having an extra marital affair.

 

Nicole is a cheater, regardless of ALL ELSE. She's a LOUSY role model for her children. And if she's a Christian, one would HOPE she cares what God is thinking about her actions...

 
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January 24, 2008, 2:33 pm PST

I wonder..

How many others feel like I do when you see a marriage (either one) lose all sense of dignity and pride and it's 'out there' for the whole world critique/tear apart/analyse to DEATH. (Death being the operative word, I think.) I suppose I am reliving my own experience of humiliation,but I find it very painful to watch these  people tear each other to pieces. I think for those of us who HAVE been there, you can hear the death knell loud and clear.I'm in the same boat with those who think the 90 days is a lost cause.
 
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January 24, 2008, 2:33 pm PST

How pathetic of you

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 Right on!!!!

So you are saying that cheating is fine if someone has been abusive.

 

Yes, I suppose IN YOUR WORLD two wrongs make a right.

 

What a lousy, immoral, sad way to live.

 

Imagine if kids were involved in that world. Oh, I forgot, who cares about the innocent children???

 

HOPEFULLY people want to behave like responsible, mature, unselfish ADULTS. It's no wonder most people today can't even sustain a happy marriage; they're simply too immature.

 
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January 24, 2008, 2:33 pm PST

Both are worthless

Another case of a woman who has been reading too many self-help books and picking and choosing solutions she thinks will bolster her selfishness.  She has stayed in an abusive marriage and cleaned out the old man's wallet with selfish cosmetic surgery and once that's done, she can go "on with her life" with a married lover and start on his wallet.  Since she is "so worried about her children", why didn't she get out long ago and use that money for a divorce to remove herself AND HER CHILDREN from a dangerous situation?  Why does Dr, Phil waste his time on worthless people?  He is a woman beater--she is a golddigger and two kids are paying for it.
 
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January 24, 2008, 2:41 pm PST

Nicole and Hector - Both are a Mess ....

 

What on earth is with Nicole? They declare bankruptcy and she goes and gets a mercedes, she gets a boob job and an eye job (her face looks a little too barbie-like – in a scary way). They pay rent, don't own, have car loans instead of buying what they can afford and she's getting a boob job and her eyes done?? Her first thought should have been let's buy a house for my children to live in – very immature. She has wasted tens of thousands of dollars – I know its from lack of self-worth  and no self-esteem – but she had this problem before she married that selfish, immature bully. She was so desperately hurt when hector fooled around on her and then she goes and messes around with some other woman's husband?? HEL-LO???? Ewwww.


As for Hector – you are a bully – and yet you were walked on too – you can't afford presents cause you're paying for plastic surgeons and crap like that and a mercedes that nobody who rents should have – you get a car like that when you can afford to pay cash for it and not before. You get a car like that when your kids college funds are all set up and you've got a years worth of mortgage payments set aside.

 

Mature adults don't live beyond their means - immature selfish people buy a mercedes before etheir kids have a healthy college fund. Time for you two to grow up, together or apart - you BOTH need to grow up.

 
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January 24, 2008, 2:43 pm PST

Would be better to leave

my experience-  when i told my ex husband that i wanted a separation, he thought it would be a good idea to assualt me.  i left for a day or so and the whole time had to hear how perhaps we should talk things over, give it a chance to work.  at 2 a.m. the morning after i went back, he had another stroke of violent genius and decided it would be a good idea to rape me at knife point- and yes, even after that a married couple that are Christian marriage councelers asked if perhaps i thought there was anything that i could do to make it work.  i think Doc's whole idea behind the 90 days is so that they can resolve those unresolved feelings he talked about so that she can leave in peace, which would be good for the children.  i don't, however, agree with how she was put on the spot to make a decision right then and there.  i could see how uncomfortable she was with that.  don't get me wrong, i'm not saying she's an angel in the whole matter.  but i do feel perhaps Doc should have suggested other ways of resolving those issues so that they could be there for the children- the telephone or scheduled councelling.  there is no way that i am going to agree that she should stay for any reason in a home with a man who dares to put a pillow over her face?  what good would it do to be in fear for her life?
 
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