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Created on : Friday, January 25, 2008, 01:17:35 pm

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Do you think the government should be allowed to keep you from wearing something others may find offensive? A debate is gaining attention across the country: Should baggy pants be banned? You’ve seen them, primarily worn by men: oversized pants hanging so low that sometimes the entire behind shows! Local ordinances in 12 states have banned the low-slung look -– but are they unfairly targeting African-Americans? Dr. Phil speaks with guests on both sides of the debate -- including parents. And, Reverend Al Sharpton and Grammy nominated hip-hip artists the Ying Yang Twins join the show with their views on banning baggy pants. Get up to speed on this issue, before YOU get caught with your pants down! Join the discussion.

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dliteful39

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January 28, 2008, 10:23 am PST

01/28 The Baggy Pants Debate

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I am so sick of Sharpton making everything about race.......................................................................................

Please....this is not a race issue, I see just as many white males as black males wearing baggy pants. I think you all look so silly. These guys look like they have long waists, short legs and no butt, real attractive. They can barely walk let alone run and they just look so ridiculous.

I don't think the government has any right to tell anyone what to wear but I do hope this style goes away real soon.

I have to agree with u totally on this ..it shouldnt be about a race issue here..because u are very right just as many whites wear there pants this way as well...so many ppl always want to make more of an issue than it needs to be...i do have to say though tht ppl do unfortunatly get stereo-typed as being thugs,gangters,and such and i am here to say tht my 16 year old son is none of those things he is a straight A student always making the honor roll and as much as I tell him to pull those pants up this is their own sense of style just like when we were kids coming up we had our style of dressing tht either are parents or teachers may not have liked but why does this have to be such and issue..I dont here anyone making a big deal out of the ppl who choose the Gothic look...

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dliteful39

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January 28, 2008, 10:25 am PST

01/28 The Baggy Pants Debate

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There are more important things to worry about, like poverty and helping other citizens.

a problem which the government should fix.

I think someone with self-esteem or selfworth wouldn't wear baggy pants and if they do, they usually have something underneath.

Say it again!!!Amen to tht...ppl out here dont know what the real issues are or there afraid to confront them...we all need to step up and do something about the important issues and this isnt one of them

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January 28, 2008, 10:27 am PST

Baggy Pants

This is a subject that should not even be up for debate.When our Local and State Governments are concerned about how young men are wearing their pants something is really wrong.Our communities have a plethora of important issues to tackle that are relevant. How did this even get this big? This shoud have been debated when every plumber that came out to your house to fix the pipes gave you more of a show then some underwear or boxershorts.

I have two sons one is a teen and the other a pre teen, I don't like them wearing baggy pants and as a parent make that very clear. My sons do well in school and are good kids . My issue is that wearing clothes hung off their butt makes them a target...... For gangbangers as well as the police. I don't want them to have yet another target on their backs....They are young black males. That is my feeling , other parents maybe okay with it... My husband and I are not. We do buy their clothes after all. If underwear were meant to be seen they would be named outerwear.

Parents should be the ones telling their kids what they can and can not wear . Where in the constitution does it say freedom of speech or expression is okay but we will govern what you express or say....If that is the case then what good is the constitution or the billof rights. Body piercing in not an issue , branding is not an issue.... Why? It should be a health issue....

This is choice and if nothing else that is a right ... Since when is baggy pants a race issue???

These topics spend way to much time on race...Every teen boy or young adult male with baggy pants is not black.

This was a topic on a radio talk show and the caller came on and said..."Go on an wear your pants off your butt... That is how they like them in jail."

If a topic for debate and race has got to be the issue then debate why our government still has to vote periodically on allowing blacks the right to vote.

Honestly, this is an at home debate and should have never been taken to such a level... When they have jobs and buy their own clothes they can where them how they want just pull them up when they come in my house because I don't need to see all that.

Michelle , CA

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January 28, 2008, 10:41 am PST

Government involvement

As to whether the government should be in on telling someone how to dress, what about how, in Sacramento, California, they are going to start regulating the temperature in our homes. They are going to install remote control thermostats in our homes and if they feel our home is too warm or too cool, they will adjust it from Sacramento. What about that? Is this right? And maybe they should get out of the business of mobbing and gangstalking which so many websites say they are in on and we believe it because we are abused by politicians, legal aid, police, firemen, people in city hall, etc, so why not tell these idiots to quit wearing those stupid baggy pants that are so offensive to so many of us and it turns our stomachs to see thosse idiots dressed in those awful baggy pants with their underpants showing and they walk like penguins and look retarded and like gangleaders and gangstalkers. Why don't the cops ticket all the millions of vehicles in California with no front license plate when the law requires them. The cops are a joke and worthless and if it is up to them to enforce the baggy pants law, everyone will be wearing them and getting away with it. The government should ban smoking everywhere if they want to really do something. We are sick and tired of smoke in our face all the time and they are killing us with their secondhand smoke. Do something about that. You pretend to care about our health.

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January 28, 2008, 10:59 am PST

I understand what you are a saying, yet.

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Hi Dr. Phil, I would consider myself an educated person brought up in a good setting by my 2 great parents. I am a 36 year old white male. I have very strong opinions on this issue. First of all I do not think it is strictly a race issue. Baggy pants are part of a variety of different cultures, I AM VERY SAD TO SAY. Second of all, baggy pants has a direct impact on my shopping experience. I probably do not shop as much as I should however when I do explain to me why I can never find the correct waist size at stores. I have an answer. this is because every one of these individuals who choose to wear baggy pants are wearing my size pants. A 36 inch waist. They deplete the stores inventory and I can never find my size in stock. I full y support a ban on baggy pants. I think parents need to step up to the plate and monitor the cloths that the kids wear. It is unacceptable. Message to the baggy pants people. You look ridiculous. You are ridiculous. Grow up get a job and look presentable, not like a hoodlum. The joke is " I wouldn't worry to much about these people running from the police they would trip." The bottom line is people who wear baggy pants present themselves as uneducated, no parent supervision and most of all look like an idiot. If they spent half the time looking for a job as they did by pulling up their pants I guess I wouldn' fault them. Don't hand me this garbage " I need to express myself." Grop up get a job and look professional. Please ban baggy pants. I guess this is worst of all. These baggy pants people are the future of our country. Help Us Dr. Phil.

I understand what you are a saying, for I too have never liked the look.

I first saw the look of baggy pants hung way down below the waist when I worked as a youth correctional officer working with teens out of control about fifteen years ago.

I didn't like it then simply due to the fact that the boys that were a doing this were the ones simply looking to score with our girl wards...ages of kids at center? 7-17 years of age. Another name for correctional center...Juvie...

So we had a standard rule that pants that were found to be displayed as such...we could write the boys up...and enough write ups could land them into lock down...

About ten years ago, the guy that I was a dating, high school age son, decided that he wanted to wear this same look and started buying jeans that were two to three sizes bigger than himself. His dad and I thought that he was just a wanting to fit in with the other males at his school. Or a wanna bee, Black kid when he was white.

We later discovered that it was just his fashion statement, for he also took to a wearing several boxer shorts under his jeans...kind of the layered look, you know?

Now ten years later, a style that I had hoped would die out...I am now a seeing my teenage grandsons a wanting to wear them that way as well...

I am also a wondering if being they are baggy, that perhaps for the skinny boys, they might look bigger and for the large weighted boys, perhaps sort of a camouflage look...I don't know...I still don't like the look and yes, I understand about you not being able to find jeans your size...for my ex boyfriend had a large time keeping clean jeans around due to his son a wearing them as well.

As for the part about allowing governmental control over the problem. I am totally against it...we need to understand that lots of things we can handle without allowing our government to do so...because before one knows it...it will be nothing but a government control state of affairs...

Those are my thoughts

Love, Light and Peace

Tonie

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January 28, 2008, 11:04 am PST

LOL!!!!

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As a former Law Enforcement officer, I found baggy pants were in our favor. Have you ever seen a kid attempting to run away from you after committing a crime while wearing baggy pants. Well, it looks like he has a bad case of the hemroids and when he jumps the fence he is all mine to take to jail, they never make it. The baggy pants are a good "asset" to law enforcement.

But if the boys that are going to date either of my daughters come to my house with their back sides hanging out of their pants, they are going to have a very lonely date alone.

I've been saying that for years!!!! I don't believe that all guys who wear low rider baggy pants are criminals but if you are up to no good how stupid are you to wear baggy no belt pants when you know at any given moment you might need to run from the cops!!!!! It's funny and I'm glad they're not bright enough to figure that out! Like you said it's easier to catch the bad guys and get them off the streets!

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~Nixi

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January 28, 2008, 11:06 am PST

We teach others how to treat us? Give me a break

Another thing we are sick of hearing is how we teach others how to treat us. What about when you step into a room full of strangers and you have done absolutely nothing, and one or more of them gives you a dirty look or makes a remark. How could you have taught them how to treat you? Or you board a bus and sit down and immediately remarks are made to you or about you the second you get on the bus, how could you have 'taught' them how to treat you? Or a new kid starting class, the second they enter the room, kids start making remarks and going, eeuuwww and saying mean things, how could that child have taught them how to treat them. There are miilions of cases where the person being abused did nothing whatsoever to deserve the treatment they get so I wish people would quit saying we teach others how to treat us. Many times we go into an office to just get some information or pay a bill or whatever, and the clerk is so mean and sarcastic to us and we were very pleasant in talking to them, we were courteous and polite and they respond this way? If that is the case, then if we do something to get even and get back at them, then 'they' 'taught us' how to treat them, so how do you like that?

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January 28, 2008, 11:12 am PST

01/28 The Baggy Pants Debate

Personally, I think that it's kind of ridiculous to keep seeing men (no matter what race) with their pants hanging down. As a African-American man at 25 years of age, I have never dressed like that in my entire life (my cousins have; ugh), as I have always dressed appropriately; though I just hated it when I had to keep pulling my pants up every time that I keep walking every few minutes like I'm a woman that has to keep pulling up on her dress or gown to prevent them from tripping over them. This happened to me recently, & I got so fed up with it that I just had to purchase myself a new, tighter belt from Wal-Mart. Now, I no longer have to keep pulling my pants up, as that feels kind of annoyed. So yeah, that does kind of annoy me to no end to keep seeing men like this (especially very young ones!).

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January 28, 2008, 11:18 am PST

Is there anything in there?

If the kids want to wear them let them.Personally I thiks its funny when out in public they fall to their ankles.
We had a name for those when I was growing up that translates (from spanish) to dry ass or no ass.
We also called them diarrhea pants cause it looked like they had quite a load in them.

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January 28, 2008, 11:22 am PST

01/28 The Baggy Pants Debate

I hate to look at someones underware. Since when has indecent exposure become a fassion statement. Don't they realize it sends a different message to different people. In prison it means they are available, I don't think the young men want to meet other men all the time.

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