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Topic : 01/28 The Baggy Pants Debate

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Created on : Friday, January 25, 2008, 01:17:35 pm
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Do you think the government should be allowed to keep you from wearing something others may find offensive? A debate is gaining attention across the country: Should baggy pants be banned? You’ve seen them, primarily worn by men: oversized pants hanging so low that sometimes the entire behind shows! Local ordinances in 12 states have banned the low-slung look -– but are they unfairly targeting African-Americans? Dr. Phil speaks with guests on both sides of the debate -- including parents. And, Reverend Al Sharpton and Grammy nominated hip-hip artists the Ying Yang Twins join the show with their views on banning baggy pants. Get up to speed on this issue, before YOU get caught with your pants down! Join the discussion.

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January 28, 2008, 2:00 pm PST

Give me a break!

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i think this topic is utterly ridicilous. pull up your pants? how about pull up your shirt. or take off that stupid sweater, or ugly pin. or maybe the government will go as far as.. take off your wig.. its gross and offensive. comon.. lets be real about the situation. if you dont want your children wearing baggy pants. then when you are teaching your children morals and values.. teach them that. but when they become adults. we are allowed to do what we want. i am a 19 year old female and im not going to sit here and lie. i enjoy the saggy look. i think its attractive on those who can pull it off. if they arent showing anything innapropriate.. then there is no reason there should be a problem with it.. IF U DONT LIKE IT .. DONT LOOK.. i dont enjoy seeing girls wearing belly shirts or extremely obese people wearing bikinis or tight clothes. but its reality.. it happens.. and its a personal choice to dress the way they want. no government will EVER tell me how i have to dress. they already control basically every other aspect of our lives.. lets not let them take away our freedom of expression. the issue wont stop here.. if we continue to let them control us. it will just keep gettin worse and soon we will all be conformed to wearing 1 color.. 1 outfit.. every day of our lives so we dont offend eachother. lets not become lemmings.
Equating a fashion statement that borders on indecent exposure with an "ugly pin", a "stupid sweater", or a "gross wig", is what is really ridiculous. I wish I didn't haveto look, but since the offense has caught on like wildfire, it appears that every teenage male is doing it. Yes, you should have the right to freedom of expression, as long as it's coupled with some common sense...ooops, I forgot, common sense, ain't that common!
 
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January 28, 2008, 2:01 pm PST

What is the world coming to?

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Since when did it become right or fair for anyone to tell you what you can wear, unless it's a parent and a young child. There are so many more important issues that people should be trying to resolve. If the males are not going to be allowed to wear baggy jeans are they going to stop women from wearing short shorts or skirts, low cut tops, or pants that are too tight ? We all know some women who should not be dressing this way do, at least the males are covered up and don't have any body parts hanging all out. A female can just as easily hide a weapon in her shirt as a male can in baggy pants. I think if you see something you don't like look the other way instead of continuing to look. I know this show hasn't aired yet but I saw the previews.

I think it is very wrong for the government or anyone to interfer with what a person wears!!!

I have a 10 year old son that went through a short time where he was wearing his jeans way low with his boxers showing.  He was wearing his older brothers clothes so that he could have "the look".  I did not like it and my biggest fear was that his pants would fall down in the middle of school and he would be embarrassed.  I knew it was just a temporary fashion statement.  What people need to remember is not to be so judgemental.  Kids are going though so much and so much peer pressure now a days.  I think wearing their pants this was is just kids trying to fit in somewhere.  They are trying to fit into a fashion statement.  Wether or not it is a good look or not. Needless to say my son went to rock climbing camp and wore his baggy jeans with his boxers showing.  I told him that morning that I wouldn't recommend him wearing them to rock clibming camp.  Of course he did.  Well,  guess what story I hear when I picked him up?  You got it!  His pants fell down at camp.  I think that was one of the last times he wore his pants that way because he got embarrassed.  I totally agree there are way more important things the government needs to worry about then what people wear.  WHO CARES!!!  It is up to each individual to decide how they want to dress.  We have freedom of speech but not freedom of dress?  How silly is that.  My son choose not to continue wearing his pants so big because he realized cool wasn't that cool when your pantsf all down.  :)

 
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January 28, 2008, 2:01 pm PST

01/28 The Baggy Pants Debate

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Wow...Okay well I think some people take being predjudice as an automatic BAD thing...Im sorry it isn't. Everyone Everywhere pre-judges things. It is a must! If you didnt you probably wouldnt survive long in this world. I think that some people are racist or sexist and thats bad...But if two guys came into my store...One was black, well dressed, groomed, polite...The other was white, baggy clothes, ass hanging out, unable to form a sentence...WHO do you think I would be thinking "someones going to cause trouble..." Now how you dress isnt a 100% reflection of your character but in a world where you could die because you trusted the wrong person...Would you not be likely to pre-judge someone on looks? And maybe every once and a while you would be wrong...But I would rather be wrong about someone being bad then just assuming everyone is okay, and I think that how a person CHOOSES to portray themselves is a good reflection on their character...SO yes I would say that maybe it doesnt mean they are going to cause trouble...BUT im going to assume they are more likely...And thats my freedom :) So in a way it sort of works out...sort of...
VERY well spoken!   :)
 
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January 28, 2008, 2:01 pm PST

Legalizing a dress code

When I was a teenager mini skirts were all the rage and if the little old ladies made the laws they would have locked me up without a key! And let’s not even discuss what midriffs did to the older generation. Now I find it totally offensive whether I’m in a church, movie, or other public place to see someone’s pants below their thong exposing their whole entire behind (not boxers). I just don’t think exposing your buttocks would have been fashionable to me no matter what my age.  But should it be illegal? Once this is a finable offense where does it stop? Who decides what YOU should wear in a free society?  Personally I feel we really have more important issues facing us, don’t you?

 
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January 28, 2008, 2:02 pm PST

stop stressing

Heyy Dr Phil,

I think that our country should be focussing on helping the homeless, saving abused animals, saving those in New Orleans, bringing our soilders home rather than stressing about how guys wear their pants. it is their right to dress how they want. if they want to let their boxers hang out, then i think that it is up to the public to just not look! life is to short to worry about these little things.
 
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January 28, 2008, 2:03 pm PST

Baggy Pants

It might not be up to the goverment to get invovled but someone needs to. It not a black thing or a white thing it's an every race thing, it has nothing to do with race its the generation that were in and the parents giving there children free will to express themselves. I know regardless how they want to express themselves the people around them should not have to share there expression with them. Nothing about it looks cool and all it does is make you a stereotype hoodleem that is not going to amount  to anything. It doesn't matter how smart you are or goals in live the first impression says it all to anyone in business.

PULL UP YOUR PANTS.......................

 
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January 28, 2008, 2:03 pm PST

01/28 The Baggy Pants Debate

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Should City or State Governments pass laws against baggy pants? No. Can they? Yes. Someone with enough money can challenge those laws and a higher court can find them Unconstitutional. Can schools have rules against baggy pants, shirts with vulgar language and anything they see fit? Yes. Children do not have Constitutional Rights.

 

 I do not agree with baggy pants. It looks trashy. It is the black communities version of a mullet and overalls. I don't know why this "fad" took off. It began in prisons where wearing your pants below your butt meant you were someones b**ch. It was for the ease of the bull. One quick movement your pants and shorts were down.

 

This is more of a respect and a self respect issue. Grown men and teenagers running around with their pants down past their butts have absolutely no respect for anyone, not even themselves. Respect is taught at home but guess what these people are not getting these lessons at home anymore. Mom and dad are working all of the time and don't want to deal with raising their kids like our parents did. Or on the worse case scenario one of the parents are not there; usually the father. They have no male influences other than the ex-con down the road or whoever is on T.V. that is popular.

 

Al Sharpton needs to put the crack-pipe down and step away. He claims that he can Crusade on anything he wants, but can't hold anything against anyone who does not agree with him. Tell that to Don Imus and the victim in Jena LA.

 

 

Right On, Right On!!!  I wholeheartedly agree...
 
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January 28, 2008, 2:03 pm PST

The whole show

Quote From: mommabear1986

Hi Dr. Phil,

I am a 21 year old Canadian white female. I think that the debate on the baggy pants issue is pure insanity. This shouldn't even be an issue that we are focused on in the world today.

First off, It is the resposibility of the parents to instill knowledge, morals and values within todays youth. As much as I would oppose my son to walk around with his pants down around his knees, I do not think that having a little bit of the boxers showing is a big deal. Its more of a style, and doesnt necissarily have anything to do with hip hop culture. My Fiance does not listen to rap or hip hop. His preference is purely metal. However he walks around with his pants a little baggy. Not many people these days wear tight pants.  No, I would not allow my son to walk around with pants down to his knees, as much as I would not allow my own daughter to walk around with her G-string showing, or a low cut shirt showing off her clevage. I believe that this is up to the parents. Doesnt the government regulate enough? Why should the government have a say in how we express ourselves? I believe that the way that we dress is a way to express ourselves. I do not believe that it should be up to the government how we dress.

There are larger issues at hand in the world, then how people wear their pants.... How about Guns? What about the unemployment rate? What about Afghanistan? Come on people.... 
Unfortuantely Dr. Phil I rea;ly do not think you did a great job today as usual unfortunately as to much of the show was spent with only two parties on the board being heard and that was not understandable as all they did was yell over one another, but I do think the government has no business imposing laws on "droopy drawers" it is a parents place just as what a women wears is usually representative of her self esteem perhaps this also is directly related to self-esteem and what a person wishes to project...baggy pants start at home!!!!
 
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January 28, 2008, 2:03 pm PST

Ordinance?

 

 I don't necessarily think the pants themselves should be banned, as long as they adhere to nudity codes. 

 

As long as you literally cover your butt, I don't think you should be fined.  I don't like them, think there juvenile and stupid, but people have a right to their stupidity. 

 
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January 28, 2008, 2:04 pm PST

Just my opinion

It is not up to the government to tell anyone how they can and cannot dress.  If we say it's ok to ban sagging pants, what happens when they try to ban low rise jeans or mini skirts?  How we dress is a form of self expression.  Now, do I like sagging pants? No.  Do I allow my son to wear his pants that way?  No.  But, that's my child, I can tell him how to dress.  I can't tell the rest of the world the same thing. 

 

As for blaming the media, DON'T!  It is up to parents to raise their kids.  If you don't like what's they're  watching on tv, block it.  If you don't like what they're listening to, turn it off.  We cannot put the responsibilty of raising our kids off on everybody else.  It is up to us to teach our children what is acceptable and what is not. 

 
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