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Topic : 01/28 The Baggy Pants Debate

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Do you think the government should be allowed to keep you from wearing something others may find offensive? A debate is gaining attention across the country: Should baggy pants be banned? You’ve seen them, primarily worn by men: oversized pants hanging so low that sometimes the entire behind shows! Local ordinances in 12 states have banned the low-slung look -– but are they unfairly targeting African-Americans? Dr. Phil speaks with guests on both sides of the debate -- including parents. And, Reverend Al Sharpton and Grammy nominated hip-hip artists the Ying Yang Twins join the show with their views on banning baggy pants. Get up to speed on this issue, before YOU get caught with your pants down! Join the discussion.

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January 31, 2008, 10:32 am PST

Baggy Pants

I think the baggy pants should be band!! My 14 year old had no business showing his behind to everyone!!

I think that if they are right at the belt line then ok, but when you see guys wearing them way below their ass then they should be band. Who in their right minds would want to look at that and then on top of it think that it's cool to walk around with your legs bent out trying to keep them up all day. My son know we check often during the day and he know we will not stop and think of showing up at school or functions to see if he is doing it. People would not think it's cool for a girl to hang her g string out for others  to see. I would be thrilled if it became a law!!!

 
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January 31, 2008, 10:35 am PST

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Oh and on the whole HIP HOP thing... HIP HOP is of all races now. People need to get over the fact that people are trying to say it is a black thing. My son is white has white, but he acts like he his a HIP HOP star when he is not. The like the music and the style and that is what is making them want to dress the way they are doing. What is in at that time is what they think they should do.
 
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January 31, 2008, 1:12 pm PST

01/28 The Baggy Pants Debate

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Hi Mitzy...how are ya?

 

Question:  So should hanging bra straps be illegal too?  I think it looks sloppy.

 

:o)

 

Marie

Hey Marie

 

Hmm bra straps, I don't think it should considered the same but I see your point. I too think it looks sloppy,

 

I am not as conserned with the underwear as I am with showing off the butt. Some of these guys and girls wear their pants so low that their butt shows, and that should be illegal exposer. People should have more respect for others and keep their pants pulled up, nobody really wants to see thie underwear.

 
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January 31, 2008, 1:19 pm PST

01/28 The Baggy Pants Debate

It is more than a generational style. This has been going on for a while now and it does not seem to be going away. I think it is getting worse. There is more to it than just showing off your underwear. it is a gang related look and people who wear the baggy pants could hide anything inside them.

 

My views have changed a little on wether or not the look should be illegal. I am not sure now what I think. What I do know is that the look is disrespectful. Nobody wants to see others underwear in public. Girls need to stop wearing their pants so low that their pubic area and their butt is showing. That just makes them look slutty and trashy.

 
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January 31, 2008, 1:31 pm PST

Not Right

I feel it'snot right to ban one style and not ban the rest of styles that may be offensive to others as well. I really don't care too much for the baggy pants style but it is freedom of expression and if you take there freedom away then you might as well do the same to all people who wear there clothing different from others. So I say do it to one and then you will have to do it to all so I'm guessing they aren't going to take this too far because they will have more problems then they can count.
 
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January 31, 2008, 2:26 pm PST

Everybody gets judged for what they wear

Unfortunately, being judged by how you look is a fact of life.  My son is almost 19 and has been into the "punk" scene since he was about 11.  I let him express himself in the way he wanted, knowing two things.  1.  He would eventually outgrow it.  2.  It was only an outward expression, not who he was inside.  My son is a very sensitive, caring and loving Christian young man.  He has NEVER been in trouble, does not do drugs, or smoke, or act promiscuous.  Yet, he is constantly judged negatively just by the way he looks on the outside.  He has been harrassed by police officers.  He has been refused service in restaurants.  People have moved across the street to avoid walking past him.  And some of these things have happened when I was with him!  But, I think that it upsets me much more than him.  He is very sure of who he is, and stands up for that.  Without being agressive or violent.  And the other side of the coin is that whenever people actually interact with him, they get a lesson in "judging a book by it's cover".  I have been told by many people when I have been out with my son that they were very surprised by how respectful, polite and nice he was.  I had a waitress tell me once that she didn't want to wait on him (he got to the restaurant and was seated before me).  She took me aside as we were leaving to compliment me on what a lovely young man he was.  Having said all of this, I have to admit that I think that some of the baggy pants kids take it too far.  I don't especially dislike the look in general.  If only a little bit of the boxers are showing, I have no objection to it.  But I do think it looks rediculous when the pants are actually riding below the buttocks.  I'm not offended, I just think it looks rediculous!  But, I sincerely think that it is just an expression of the outside, and I can't understand wasting our legislator's time and effort on passing laws about it.
 
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January 31, 2008, 2:38 pm PST

Good point

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I feel it'snot right to ban one style and not ban the rest of styles that may be offensive to others as well. I really don't care too much for the baggy pants style but it is freedom of expression and if you take there freedom away then you might as well do the same to all people who wear there clothing different from others. So I say do it to one and then you will have to do it to all so I'm guessing they aren't going to take this too far because they will have more problems then they can count.

Like for instance, I think that tattoos are disgusting and offensive and has a health risk due to the bodies absorption of all of that ink. I mean some people are so bad,that you can't find their skin It is sickening and offensive to me. But, I have no right to suggest that their be a ban on tattoos and fines for that behavior and action.

 

What about triple D breast implants.We could ban those, citing the cases of implants going ban and the health risks that add to our medical costs.

 

It's not even close call. No one in any of my family circles wear baggy or sagging pants with butt exposed and I consider it ridiculous. But,  i am more offended by the 300 pound lady wearing daisy dukes and she has more exposed, but can not ban it, unless you tell Jessica Alba that she can't wear them. Please don't do that.

 
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January 31, 2008, 5:57 pm PST

Baggy Pants

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Styles come and styles go, ripped jeans and fishnets in the eighties, baggy pants ans hi huggers you need to shave yourself in order to wear these days.  Personally I don't think race has anything to do with it, I live in a WASP town, and the boys here wear them as well.

My question is, who buys the clothes ? Really as a parent do you NOT control the finances and the credit cards ? If so, don't you think you have the right to say "NO" if you think an article of clothing is inappropriate ?

As for the adults, well that's just it, they buy their own clothes, personally I don't think seeing someone's underwear is attractive, and really you aren't making any statements when you are trying to be like everyone else, but then that's a decision you make for yourself.

Do we want to all be wearing uniforms a la "1984" (the book by George Orwell)? Think about it, if the government is allowed this, then what next ? Be honest here, would you really want to live in a country that IMPOSES DRESS CODES on its people (think Afghanistan and the Burka ), so they look rediculous, so what ?  This too shall pass.

As for hiding weapons, consider this, ANYONE who is DESPARATE or really WANTS to commit a crime, will find a way to hide a weapon, or cause destruction.

These kids aren't always wannabe gangstas or thugs, and they do grow up, many of them do have jobs and go to school.

I just think that before we knee jerk about things like this (and we seem to regret many knee jerk reactions) we should think about what this could entail.

Yes they are ugly and sloppy looking and I personally do not want to see a young mans boxers...that said, I also do not particularly want to see the young girls wearing belly shirts, bras as outer wear or their thong underpants hanging out of the low rise jeans.

BUT........My parents did not like me wearing jeans that were so low my mom used to say my pube hairs were about to show, and thank goodness I had a flat stomach because my halter top was so skimpy it was not much bigger than a bra and oh yea there was the summer that she hated that the crotch of my Levis cords were down around my knees and the waist band was down low on my hips and they were a like a mans 32 and I was probably a size 6 juniors ....Oh....let me think for  minute....HMMMM?? I think it was 1968 ???? Yep that's right. All the styles I just mentioned were "IN" back then....

 

It is called a faze, a fad, a craze, whatever.....and isn't just the black youths, or the little "gangsta wannabes". I have been in the city , the country, you will see your share of young guys wearing the baggy breeches. I AM RELATELY SURE THIS STYLE WILL BE OUT AS QUICKLY AS IT CAME IN. All it takes is seeing what the kids are wearing on TV or in concert..or whatever & that's what they will be wearing. 

 

On the flip side....I am in favor of school uniforms. It puts all the kids on a fair playing field. No kid getting teased and picked on because their parents can not afford to put them in $100.00 jeans or sneakers. So when they get home they can put on the baggy pants and hang out with their friends in their baggy pants.

 

Clothes throughout the generations have had an impact on youth. AND there have been some crazy fads over the years!! White Bucs, funny hats, you name it teens have worn it and th more parents hate it the more "they" (meaning the teens and tweens) 

 

The kind of person a child grows up to be is rooted in what he is taught at home. Teach a child self respect, how to respect others, good manners, how the speak properly, the importance of an education, to be a responsible person, a strong faith, the importance of honesty, pride  loyalty, love and respect of his family and others and they can put on a paper bag held up w/ a shoestring and become something to be proud of......

 

I grew up in the late 50's through the fads of the 60's, 70's & oh my gosh....80's big hair and all. I now have 3 grown children, 4 grandchildren (2 more on the way) so I have seen a lot of goofy, ugly styles come & go

 

So in closing ..."BAGGY PANTS" ?  THEY TO SHALL PASS....

 

Tink57

 
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January 31, 2008, 6:29 pm PST

Baggy Pants or Short Shorts

 

It's not what you wear but how you wear it. 

 

Nothing like men in tight-fitting jeans!.

 

Imagine women wearing baggy pants!

 
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January 31, 2008, 6:39 pm PST

RIDICULOUS!!!

I am a parent to two sons and one daughter, who i am extremely proud of all of them.  I have raised them on my own as well for the last 20 years.  All of them know what is appropriate and what is not.  However, when I may not choose to enjoy looking at their boxers exposed, but I do not see the entire nation up in arms when a teenage girl is wearing a blouse or top that exposes her breasts or a skirt that when she bends over or crosses her legs that you can see her THONG???!  I think that too much emphasis is being placed on people's ability to choose their clothing, a child or adult.  You obviously have to educate your children that if they want to have gainful employment then they will have to dress a certain way.  For the mother who was saying her children "changed" when they started sagging is ridiculous.  It's their choices they are making and if the influence is from a source that she doesn't like maybe she should do the responsible thing and remove that "source" from their viewing.  The reality is this, most of it is a fad and the kids will grow out of it, and what they wear today as youths is not a direct result of what they will be like as adults.  We have let the government take religion out of schools, take disciplining our children in a proper way out of our hands, et cetera.  I for one do not feel unless someone is PAYING for my children's clothing they do not have the right to tell my children how to dress.  It's a freedom of expression.  This has been blown way out of proportion and mad out to be a hip-hop/racial issue.  The reality is they are kids and will grow out of most of the clothing choices they are making now.  Lord knows I used to walk around in torn up clothing and spandex  (madonna era) with combat boots and sneakers.  Today I am running my own business successfully from home and am the sole supporter of my 3 children.  If the government wants to step into something then maybe they need to relegislate the dead beat mom and dad's laws and start upholding it.   For the woman on stage speaking out about her son's, the one and I quote claimed her kids were "dumped on her" after a divorce, I pity you.   I seriously cannot believe you would speak out in such a negative way about them, you chose to have them!  I think I was more outraged by that one comment than the entire rest of the show which was also disappointing.  Our children are a gift from God and different in their own ways, expressions, styles and dress, just as we were to our parents.  Let it go.  If you want to make a difference start educating our children on the long term effects of drugs, alcohol, and premature sexual activities.......

 
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