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The Doctors are in the house! Dr. Phil’s team of medical experts, including OB-GYN Lisa Masterson, family therapist Dr. Tara Fields, pediatrician Dr. Jim Sears, plastic surgeon Dr. Andrew Ordon, and E.R. physician Dr. Travis Stork, come together to address some weighty topics. How many times have you tried to shed pounds but failed? Obesity in America is one of the fastest-growing epidemics. First, meet Kevin, a father and husband who weighs over 700 pounds and spends 95 percent of his day in bed. Cameras follow him on his first-ever plane trip, and you won’t believe what it takes to get a man of his size to the Dr. Phil studios. Will the journey pay off, or is this self-proclaimed food addict beyond help? Then, Alfreda was at one time considered obese at 350 pounds, but after bariatric surgery, she now weighs 175. Instead of feeling overjoyed at her dramatic weight loss, Alfreda struggles with rolls and rolls of extra skin. Can she get the body she wants by going under the knife? The Doctors speak candidly on these stories and the top health news of the day. Get in on the discussion!

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January 30, 2008, 12:54 am CST

01/29 Extreme Weight with the Doctors

Quote From: abcede

   700 Lbs.?  I keep hearing morbidly obese patients crying while saying, I don't know how this happened or any array of excuses. But this person admits to Pizzas, Pounds of Chicken. & Moon Pies.

  And I am supposed to show sympathy??

Why should he have Bariatric Surgery when he can't even commit to reasonable eating.

I have seen several post surgery patients go right back to poor eating habits.

  I am a smoker who is continually  making at least an effort to quit, & all I get are dirty looks & nasty remarks, and by FAR I have NEVER gotten Sympathy.

  I think Obesity is  much costlier to the health care industry. Why are they different??????

 

Cosigned

 

Addition: First let me say congratulations for being a person of honesty & saying what was on many peoples mind...

 

It's truly amazing that people are feeling sorry for this Kevin...You all saw the show..This guy didn't have some medical condition that caused him to gain weight...He just stuffed his face until he was bed ridden...I have no sympathy for this guy...He's no different than a drug user...Except his drug of choice is food...He probably had some depression issues that were never addressed...but again his own fault...Many people suffer from depression & find a way to get help...There are always Ave's one can take...but you have to get off your butt & search for them...they don't just come to you saying here I am...

 
January 30, 2008, 1:23 am CST

Honey, don't give up !

Quote From: shaybaby

i can relatte to him even though i do not waigh as much as he does i way 530 pounds and i dont eat like junk 24/7 but im an amotional eater and i hate that and also i have poor will power but it is getting better i have allreaddy lost 20 pounds with just getting out and trying to exercies and i feel better but i have verry mixt emotions about haveing surgery ether bypas or lap banding does any one have any pointers or ways to help id appresiat it
Honey,  (sorry this is so long...)

You are doing a fantastic job !  You have already lost 20 pounds.  That is an accomplishment in itself.  Just keep on doing what your doing.  I do not believe that you need willpower.  I gave up on willpower 4 years ago and decided that willpower was a useless word and whoever invented that word should be ashamed of themselves !  Now on a serious note, you don't say how fast/slow you have taken off this 20 pounds and it really doesn't matter because it's 20 pounds that you will never see again.  (a positive thought...nothing to do with willpower).  Think ONLY positive thoughts.  Shake any negativity out of your mind right this second !  Ok, it's gone now.  Your different now.  Can you feel the flow of nothing but calmness and peace and self-love....love yourself.  You deserve to love yourself !

Let me tell you what I call "My Truth".  I guess I look at "MY Truth" sort of the same way that Dr. Phil talks about "Lifestyle Change".  "My Personal Truth" (and honey, I sincerely believe we ALL have our own personal truth...now we can say that we don't know what that means but deep down inside everyone knows what their truth is...it is who you are at your very core not who you are on the outside and that is what will propel you through this weightloss that you are going to see continuing.  It's not who Grandma sees on the outside at Christmas because you have to attend Christmas dinner with all your skinny cousins who keep whispering and giggling and Aunt Dipstick who weighs 110 and eats a 2 pound box of chocalates for breakfast everyday and tells you that you don't eat right...hmmmm.  And yet you still smile when you feel those hot tears stinging the corner of your eyes when you refuse to let them fall as you turn your back and dash for that whole pumpkin pie that Grandma made just for you.  Honey, been there done that!  See, I have faith in YOU....because I had/have faith in me. You can get there.   I know that YOU know what "YOUR Truth" .  You know that you are a strong person, you know you are confident, you are intelligent, you have a "core and a truth" which means you will be alright if you just "believe in yourself ONE DAY AT A TIME" and I have seen many days where I made it through 24 hours by living and being present from just one hour to the next hour.  The day was long but I made it because I know I am strong and I will never hand my Power over to food ever again...or to anyone for that matter.  I am OK in my 200 pound body...I am no less a person that a 110 pound person and I refuse to let my family make me feel that way.  (See me taking back my power?) I have lost approximately 20 pounds a year for the last 4 years.  It doesn't sound like much, honey, and I still weigh a little over 200 but I have my POWER back and my TRUTH.  And I Will lose the weight that I need to and it's OK that it's slow.  Afterall, it took God 6 days to make Earth and put Adam and Eve here and he rested on one day and so do I.  I will also share with you that I cannot exercise much as I have a list of health problems longer than your arm unfortuneately.  (Kidney transplant 20 years ago..I did peritoneal dialysis 2 years prior to that and was unfortuneate enough to get peritonitis (not fun), 2 total hip replacements and 2 revisions on one of them,  degenerative disk disease in my spine, fibromyalgia, osteoporosis, arthritis, lymphadema, both knees and ankles need replacement because I have avascular necrosis in all my joints for which I am followed by a pain specialist who keeps me as pain free as I can be,  IGA defiency which causes me to have chronic pneumonia.  I was in the hospital with it 3 separate times in September.  I also deal with anemia, B-12 defiency, pre? Type 2 Diatbetes caused by one of my medications...SAD, Sjrogrens disorder, Reynauds syndrome,  Sick Sinus Syndrome, migraines, cataracts (one has been operated on but now I see white fog and double fuzzy vision at night).  H/O panic attacks, depression and PTSD.  I have been going to the cancer center once each month for IGG Gamma Globulin infusions...I can't even remember...between 15 and 20 years now.  I have never missed one treatment.   I was a couple days late a few times and ended up in the hospital with pneumonia wishing I hadn't postponed my 30 day visit to 32.
I just had my gall bladder removed, I have celeiac disease and I am lactose intolerant which is nothing.  I am on many drugs but recently...well you get the picture.  There's more...really  there is but seriously I do take very good care of myself.  I don't smoke and I have a rare glass of wine.  I may be heavy but I am doing something about it.  I do look healthy...so...this brings me to this point...I said all this for you to see and understand this one thing....

......I feel I am very blessed that I do not look or act the part of someone with poor health.  I am a fairly private, but open person.  I don't mind telling someone my health history but I refuse to complain to anyone in my family or my friends.  They know my problems but not in detail because I find when a person complains they make "their dilemma even worse".  Or in other words they seal their future.   What you say and  what  the people around you say is what and who you are.  If you brow beat yourself. everytime you try to walk 1/4 of a mile...let's say..."well, I can't even walk a mile, there is no sense in trying to walk to lose weight...I can't do it so I quit."  Then you are going to quit.  You just talked yourself into it.  You need to say to yourself, "hey I did it, tomorrow I will take 20 extras steps."  OR  your mother says " you were gone a long time, here have this...as she tosses you a package of your fav cookies"...what do you do in this situation??  Toss them right back to her and say, "no, all I need is a cold bottle of water with lemon."  THIS my DEAR is YOU LOVING YOU.  This is not will power.  This is your Truth...this is who YOU really ARE.  AND by the end 8 weeks you will be walking 1 mile...slowly perhaps like I do...but you will walk it...and the weight will be melting.

I have many tips I would like to share with you.  I just bought myself a exercise watch.  It hasn't seen much action yet BUT it is an incentive for me to "stay the course".  I think you put your calories in it.  A pound is 3500 calories so if you put in 3500 calories and subtract what you eat from the 3500.  If you eat , 1500 calories a day you will have a deficit of 2000 calories and by the end of the week...you will not have GAINED any weight and you should have LOST weight.  I think it also subtracts how many calories you burned walking or doing exercises and keeps track of your heart rate, etc.  I have not used it yet but I will let you know more about it if you want...just ask me.  And I have bought myself a few stretching bands and fitness books for beginners a couple years ago when I first started because any movement I feel is good movement.  I love to do pilates and yoga here at home but again because of the replaced hips I have to be very careful not to pop them out of joint (been there done that 2 times...not pretty trust me).  And if I get on the floor I need help getting up so I did buy a very small weight bench so I don't have to get on the floor if no one is at home.  I have a couple men's sweatsuits from JCPenny that were dirt-cheap, and a couple women's exercise bras and and yoga pants from Dick's off sale racks to exercise in.  I set myself up for a POSITIVE experience. 

And I also invested in a good pair of scales because I have a problem with getting dehydrated.  These scales tell not only your weight, but your hydration %, BMI, % of body fat, and how many pounds of muscle you have.  They were not expensive and are very easy to program.  You can program up to 4 people..
Why am I telling you all this?  Because if I can lose weight honey, I know in my heart of hearts YOU can.  You are a very beautiful young lady who has so much to offer this world, don't stand back and let your weight make you miss opportunities...someone out there needs YOUR help to lose their weight.  They need to hear YOUR story.  Everyone has a story...everyone's journey through this life is unique...one just has to find their "truth" and grab on to it for the "ride of their lives".
DON"T have the "tummy band"...I was suppose to have my stomach stapled on a recommendation from from 2 doctors in Vermont about 18 years ago but I decided against it.  I knew I wasn't emotionally mature enough at that time to be told that I could only eat a shot glass of food 6 times a day  for the rest of my life.  I knew I couldn't do that.  Oh, and about loose skin...I think the slower you lose the weight the less you have and I think doing exercises helps with that too.  Yep, I have loose skin but I dress to impress...no one sees it and I have never heard my husband complain...he's a real man.  We take the bumps and bruises that life has given us and we've grown stronger together after 30 years.  He certainly has been through alot with me. 

I will keep you in prayer and feel free to write back to me if you need encouragement.  We all need a mentor at times !  I know I do.
God Bless,
Frannie

 
January 30, 2008, 4:04 am CST

01/29 Extreme Weight with the Doctors

Quote From: ladiehawke

Shouldn't people who can be helped, be helped? If there was help out there for you and your problem, I would certainly hope that Dr. Phil or someone like him would help you. Don't be bitter and angry towards Kevin because he is lucky enough to be getting help. Be happy for him that he is going to get a chance to live...Hopefully you will make the best of the lot in life that you were dealt and live to the fullest that you can....

That's the same attitude that keeps people with Huntingtons, Scleroderma, children with genetic illnesses all sick. 

 

So let a few fall by the wayside for the greater good?  Even if they bring it upon themselves (hello Kevin, ya listening?)

 

And how do you suppose someone who's paralyzed for 23 years 'live to the fullest that you can.'  I've lived it.  And it sucked.  Sorry - but it does.  I believe Phil calls it a 'front seat in hell' for a reason.

 
January 30, 2008, 4:22 am CST

01/29 Extreme Weight with the Doctors

Quote From: abcede

   700 Lbs.?  I keep hearing morbidly obese patients crying while saying, I don't know how this happened or any array of excuses. But this person admits to Pizzas, Pounds of Chicken. & Moon Pies.

  And I am supposed to show sympathy??

Why should he have Bariatric Surgery when he can't even commit to reasonable eating.

I have seen several post surgery patients go right back to poor eating habits.

  I am a smoker who is continually  making at least an effort to quit, & all I get are dirty looks & nasty remarks, and by FAR I have NEVER gotten Sympathy.

  I think Obesity is  much costlier to the health care industry. Why are they different??????

 

"And I am supposed to show sympathy?" I don't think any one can tell you how you are supposed to feel about this or anything else. We each have our own reactions to whatever we see or hear. For me, yesterday I saw a fellow human being who has, by his own admission, ended up morbidly obese, by over eating. I am not overweight and I do watch what I eat and excersize. I have compassion for Kevin and I hope someday he comes back on the show weighing a lot less. No one told me I should feel this way, I just simply do.

 

"Why are they different?" I don't know that they are any different than any of us who have our own burdens to bear. I have compassion for any of us who are trying to better ourselves in any way, shape or form. I am thankful that I have not ended up carrying that much weight. I just hope that Kevin and anyone else in his situation can lose the weight and have a better life. I am in the process of quitting smoking myself, so you won't get any nasty remarks from me. It's an extremely hard thing to do. I am trying to convince myself daily that I am stronger than my craving for those little fire sticks. Good luck to you.

 
January 30, 2008, 4:36 am CST

01/29 Extreme Weight with the Doctors

Quote From: lynnifer

So I get to be paralyzed from the waist down since age 12 from some relatively unknown viral illness (Transverse Myelitis) .. which I didn't ask for or anything and there's nothing to fix it.  Still nothing to reverse paralysis since the second World War.  Suffering complications - have a tube sticking out of my chest right now.  Will more than likely die from infection from a pressure sore.

 

Kevin eats himself to death's door and everyone on the show is supportive and trying to help him.  Poor, poor Kevin.  Awwww.

 

I'd say some priorities are mixed up in North America.  How good for Kevin that he has a way out.

Dear Lynnifer, I am thinking of you and I hope something good comes your way today.

 
January 30, 2008, 4:59 am CST

01/29 Extreme Weight with the Doctors

Quote From: ladiehawke

If the poster truly had tapeworms then she wouldn't have been fat. Tapeworms makes the host lose weight. In fact, in years gone by, there used to be miracle capsules that helped people to lose weight. What the capsules were was the head of a tapeworm in a gelatin capsule. Yep, the person who took the capsule lost weight, but they eventually became quite sick. Tapeworms can kill. I have major doubts about the Chinese cleanseing. Most likely the weight loss was the change of diest to fruits and veggies.

There have been studies done linking parasites to obesity. I went to some sites and read a little bit about it. Dr.Oz on Oprah has recently discussed the fact that we have parasites in our bodies. He even brought a tapeworm on the show and that sucker(actually it does have a round "mouth" that attaches to the stomach) was loooooong. Dr Oz didn't discuss the obesity factor. I'm not sure why parasites and obesity and other problems stemming from parasites have not come more to the forefront. Also, in going to sites and reading about it, because I don't know much about it, it's hard to know what's true and what's fabricated. But, I DO believe there is something to it.

 

Think about it, if this thing with parasites came to be well known, what would happen to all the diet companies like SlimFast, South Beach etc....? What would happen with Drs. who don't subscribe to this belief about parasites, if it were found to be true and came to the forefront? A lot of people would stand to lose a lot of money.

 

I wish DrP would do a show about this and have his group of Drs. on with the Drs who are involved in this type of thing. It could cause a revolution in the dieting industry.

 
January 30, 2008, 5:22 am CST

Support For Kevin

I just want to say to Kevin that I have nothing but love for him and I felt his utter loneliness and sadness.  I wish for him that things turn around and that Dr. Phil's team can truly help him.  I will keep him in my prayers.  He broke my heart listening to him talk, and to see his tears...he is a worthy human being and I truly pray God brings his life around.

 

God bless you Kevin.  You are a good soul.  Do not give up.  There are many people who do care, and I am one.  Please feel free to email me if this allows you to do so.

 
January 30, 2008, 5:25 am CST

01/29 Extreme Weight with the Doctors

Quote From: shaybaby

i can relatte to him even though i do not waigh as much as he does i way 530 pounds and i dont eat like junk 24/7 but im an amotional eater and i hate that and also i have poor will power but it is getting better i have allreaddy lost 20 pounds with just getting out and trying to exercies and i feel better but i have verry mixt emotions about haveing surgery ether bypas or lap banding does any one have any pointers or ways to help id appresiat it

I hope you know that I and others like me truly care about you and we do not think bad of you, in fact, I have nothing but compassion.  I hope that you can find a group of some sort where love and support can be shared for eachother. 

 

God bless you and I hope that God truly helps you turn your life to a new direction and that on your healing path you can find some new hope and good things in life.  You deserve them.  You deserve fun, love and a good life.

 

 

 
January 30, 2008, 6:54 am CST

01/29 Extreme Weight with the Doctors

Quote From: philfan_52

First of all.....I, too, am considered obese (5'1"/250 lbs) and have been told by at least 2 doctors that I should look into gastric bypass (both told me the "lapband" procedure was more popular in Europe and NOT as effective as gastric bypass!!).  I have looked into it, gone to a seminar and talked with a surgeon. I'm still NOT convinced.  I don't feel I have an addiction to food (I don't eat but 1-2X a day and no where near the amount of food Kevin eats!).......but I do know what I like to eat and it's mostly the food that TASTES good, not that usual "healthy" stuff they promote!  I'm not stupid....I know the GOOD stuff is fattening. I don't eat it all day long, but neither do I eat very healthful the rest of the time. I have diabetes; I still eat sweets which I know is a "no-no".....altho to be honest, you can have some, just not a diet-ful!!

 

I'm smart enough to know that I have a lot of "attitudes" about food, etc. to overcome before attempting this kind of surgery. It's not like quitting smoking.....you don't HAVE to have a cigarette to live. FOOD you HAVE to have to live. And it seems like just about every type of gathering (birthday, celebrations, Xmas, etc.) revolves around food (at least at my house!)  I lost about 35 lbs last year (health reasons) and have hanging skin from that.............I KNOW losing 100 more lbs. would create a WHOLE other problem with lots more hanging skin.....and I don't think you can just "tuck" it away in your clothes and still look good!!! Plus the added weight you're carrying around that's just hanging off of you.......don't think that would help my self-esteem much!!!! 

 

I'm on Medicaid (because of disability), which I think WILL cover the surgery, however, it WILL NOT cover the plastic surgery of "skin removal" later on.  Obviously, I DO NOT have the means to "save up" for it or pay "out of pocket".  I have several personal & health reasons WHY I need to get this done.....but, again.   I have fibromyalgia along with arthritis which causes me a lot of pain....it's not going to go away.....and many forms of exercise just make the pain worse. Yes, the arthritis can be better with weight loss, but the fibro is a different kind of pain and the kind of exercise needed to help reduce the skin sagging, etc. is intensive, too intensive....so that is another reason I have held off.

 

I do agree, however, that in Kevin's case, his family has NOT BEEN helpful with his condition. If the wrong food isn't in the house, she can't serve it to him, can she???  I don't know whether or not she works, whether they are on welfare (which really doesn't pay much) or how they get their money.....they have to support the son too, don't they??

 

Lastly........I would think everyone knows by now that Dr. Phil is a great guy and all most people have to do is contact him about their problem(s) and he'll try and help....it's what he does......but sometimes I think people just take advantage of that. I hope Kevin doesn't.....I hope he (and his wife) can use the help and work towards helping him regain some sort of life........if he is disabled, I hope he can find something to do so that he doesn't fall back into the "old lifestyle".   I'M DONE!!!!

I used to weigh 263 pounds and I have lost 100 pounds the old fashion way.  Moderate diet and moderate exercise.  The diet I went on was The Rosedale Diet.  You can look him up online.  I also had the hanging stomach (still have issues with my arms and legs and boobs).  Insurance wouldn't pay for it, but I financed the surgery.  It was worth it for me.  Anyway, health is the main reason for the weight loss anyway.  A number on a scale does NOT define who you are as a person, but your health determines the quality and quantity of your life.  Less weight can make both better.  I know how hard it is, but it can be done.  If you would like to know more about the Rosedale diet, you can email me at Bilsanditis@aol.com  Good luck!
 
January 30, 2008, 7:11 am CST

01/29 Extreme Weight with the Doctors

Quote From: marymouse2

I could indentify with Kevin and his problems.  I'm a 53 year old mom who is morbidly obese and have quite a few medical problems(ie: diabetes, high blood pressure, severe arthritis).  I've tried many different things and found that support of others seems to work the best.  Weight Watchers worked very well until I lost my job then there was no money to go there.  The weight slowly crept back on.  But I keep trying because I want a life.  It's very easy to let the depression get you down and food becomes your only friend, your only pleasure in life.  Currently I'm struggling...any suggestions??

As

I used to weigh 263 pounds and I have lost 100 pounds the old fashion way - moderate diet and exercise.  The diet I followed was The Rosedale Diet.  You can look him up online or get his book from the library or buy it.  I know how hard it is - I've been there.  The depression and lonlieness still gets to me sometimes and food becomes my friend - but a "friend" that is not good for me.  I try to my best each day and not make unobtainable goals.  I only have today and I have to be good to myself just for today!  I can forgive myself if I mess up yesterday and I will worry about tomorrow - tomorrow.  Just remember that the number on a scale does NOT define who you are as a person, but your health is the most important thing.  You are valuable just because you are you.  For me, overeating has been an emotional issue, not really about the food.  A book I found helpful in figuring out myself is "Healing the Shame that Binds You" by Dr. Bradshaw.  Anyway, I wish the best of luck to you.  If you would like to email me, but address is Bilsanditis@aol.com 
 
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