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Topic : 02/05 The Dr. Phil House: Rules of Engagement

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Four engaged couples wondering if they’re ready to walk down the aisle move into The Dr. Phil House. Will their dysfunctional and toxic behavior stand in the way of a happy life together? Lacey says her fiancé, Kalin, has hit, choked and cheated on her, all while she was pregnant with their child. Steve is afraid of displeasing his fiancée, Stephanie, who considers herself a princess. Scott thinks his wife-to-be, Lisa, tears down his dreams of being a musician, while Lisa thinks Scott is a male chauvinist. Tim and Lilly are just 19 years old. Are they completely unprepared for their baby, due in two months? Each couple will be put to the test to see if they really know their partner’s flaws, funds, family and future expectations. After several challenges, will the couples decide to head to the altar or just call it quits? Join the discussion.

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February 13, 2008, 10:38 am PST

02/05 The Dr. Phil House: Rules of Engagement

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I have never seen a group of such selfish, egotistical and self-absorbed people. Dr. Phil would never invite myself and my wife on a show like this. First of all, we'd collapse into a mountain of giggles during the "challenges." I'd probably sabotage opposing groups suitcases with extra books.  During the "work" sessions, we'd trade silly stories about our 40 years of marriage. The shows would "degenerate" into a bunch of gags and jokes. I'd hate to live with any of those people, men or women. They have no sense of humor. Each thinks they are the most important person in the world. None probably does anything for anyone else. C'mon, grow up folks. The whole world is not YOU.

 

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My husband and I were laughing at the "challenges" too! The car one was too funny, since I'm a chic and have changed tires and never yelled or cuss at my car while doing so!  These 4 couples make younger couples look like all they do is fight/ agrue. Thats not the case! My husband is 29 and I'm 24 we have a 2 year old daughter and a son on the way and those couples fault more on their clips than him and I have ever since meeting one another 4 years ago! The thought of these people putting up with this and not knowing they're better than that life style gets me!
 
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February 13, 2008, 11:37 am PST

THANK YOU

The problem the Stephanie had with changing the tire was priceless. She was standing on the lug wrench with both feet and bouncing to no avail. Her little 104 lbs just didn't cut it. Thanks to the mechanic who later gave us a tip on the correct direction to wrench off the lug nuts, my husband was able to get the flat fixed just 2 hrs. after the show. Because he listenen to me relay what I had witnessed on your show.   V.A.

 
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February 13, 2008, 5:16 pm PST

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The problem the Stephanie had with changing the tire was priceless. She was standing on the lug wrench with both feet and bouncing to no avail. Her little 104 lbs just didn't cut it. Thanks to the mechanic who later gave us a tip on the correct direction to wrench off the lug nuts, my husband was able to get the flat fixed just 2 hrs. after the show. Because he listenen to me relay what I had witnessed on your show.   V.A.

One of the most important things a driver can do for themselves is to familiarize themselves with an automobile inside and out.  Cell phones were not popular back then like they are now,  It would be hard to get help. Knowing that I could not ever leave myself in a vulnerable position, I decided to take an automotive class. Even though I was the only girl in class, it was well worth it 20 years later.  I am very comfortable changing a tire, battery, and hoses when I need to (and I have had to).  I still remember my teacher, Mr. Martin saying "lefty loosey, righty tighty"  to remove lugnuts, screws, or anything amongst other helpful things to remember about engines.  Hope all went well with your husband changing the tires with your assistance.  Heidi, Dr. Phil's and Robin's,  First Wives Club member
 
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February 14, 2008, 4:34 am PST

girly girls

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i dont think stephanie is immature at all. shes just a girly girl and theres nothing wrong with that. I believe her problem is always wanting to be the center of attention. in most situations when someone wants "all eyes on them" they are just overly jealous, which is another problem. i think if she and steve really want to work this out they can!

In reference to Stephanie, you say there is nothing wrong with being a girly girl.  Fine.  Many girls/women like to have nice clothes, handbags etc. but there is a huge difference between a girl who expects someone else to provide these things for her (and in abundance too!!) and a girl who earns money for herself and treats herself to some nice things.  Stephanie obviously wants someone to pamper her and she is a bottomless pit.  It seems as if she will never be satisfied and have enough things and enough attention. It goes further then that.  She doesn't seem to want to deal with the slightest bit of discomfort.  She doesn't want to exert any effort.  She was ready to quit as soon as things were no longer fun for her. I think she is going to be very high maintenance, and her fiance is going to be drained emotionally and financially from this person.  The only way they arfe going to succeed is if she gets rid of her undeserved sense of entitlement and learns to contribute something to the world as well as learn to provide herself with the things she wants through her own efforts and work. Life in the adult world is not a cakewalk and she needs to learn to take on responsibilities and stop acting like a 13 year old child.

 
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February 14, 2008, 4:45 am PST

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Right on! These people who go on the Dr Phil show and then whine about how the producers "portray" them and how viewers react to that portrayal have only themselves to blame. Stephanie made a spectacle of herself, insisting that her fiance constanly hug and kiss her. And, he couldn't even pet his cat without Stephanie insisting that he ought to be petting her. Jealous of a cat. Good grief! And, during the tire changing challenge, she accused the other team of cheating. They weren't cheating. They were doing it right. Stephanie, even though her team-mates told her how to change the tire, refused to listen and continued to do things her way. The wrong way. No one cheated. Stephanie screwed up. And, refused to "own" it. As for the producers'  "portrayal" of her, she opened herself up to it, by being on the show. Get real, girl. You go on TV, they'll do what they want with you. And, we'll say what we want about you. That's the price of extreme attention seeking behavior.
this girl wants to flit through life without expending any effort of her own, and expects things to be continuously handed to her. It is all about what others can do for her. Going on the show was, I am sure, another bid for attention, but when she saw what a negative image she portrayed, then the whining started again.  Poor little me, everyone is so mean, I'm being picked on etc.  No responsiblity, no accountability, no ownership of the problems.  Totally immature, self absorbed, and probably hasn't got a clue as to why people are turned off by her.
 
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February 14, 2008, 10:01 pm PST

HURT!!

Well I watched this show and I had to rewind it several times to make sure I was hearing what I heard!!  I know this was about couples and marriage but I can not help to be so hurt with Laceys comment about the baby!!!  She said that just go ahead and give it shaken baby syndrom!!!  Wow a mother saying this???  I have a child that suffered from shaken baby from his daycare provider and I would never ever wish that on anyone!  We go through life fighting battles everyday!!!  He was 5 months old at the time and was on life support for over 15 days, and we nearly lost him.  Since then he has had to have eye surgery and has lost most vision in his left eye!  For you Dr. Phil,  I always looked up to you and how you speak up and speak your mind.... why did you not speak up about her comment?  I think a person with your knowledge should set the record straight and tell what can happen to children if they are shaken.  We need your voice to spread the awarness about this situation!!!  Please Dr. Phil let your voice be heard on this subject and help protect our children, for they are our future!!!

 
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February 15, 2008, 4:26 am PST

WOW!!!!!

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Well I watched this show and I had to rewind it several times to make sure I was hearing what I heard!!  I know this was about couples and marriage but I can not help to be so hurt with Laceys comment about the baby!!!  She said that just go ahead and give it shaken baby syndrom!!!  Wow a mother saying this???  I have a child that suffered from shaken baby from his daycare provider and I would never ever wish that on anyone!  We go through life fighting battles everyday!!!  He was 5 months old at the time and was on life support for over 15 days, and we nearly lost him.  Since then he has had to have eye surgery and has lost most vision in his left eye!  For you Dr. Phil,  I always looked up to you and how you speak up and speak your mind.... why did you not speak up about her comment?  I think a person with your knowledge should set the record straight and tell what can happen to children if they are shaken.  We need your voice to spread the awarness about this situation!!!  Please Dr. Phil let your voice be heard on this subject and help protect our children, for they are our future!!!

I must have missed that comment about shaken baby syndrome, but even to make a flippant comment about something so tragic was so out of line.  You are right; Dr. Phil should have come down very hard on her for that one.

I am so sorry to hear of your own personal tragedy. Being the parent of a handicapped child, I can sympathize with the  the daily challenges that you must have to face.   I hope that whoever did that horrible thing to your child was served justice, although I know that there is nothing in the world that can truly make up for what she did and the consequences to your child and family.  Why not suggest this as a topic for a future show?    It may save countless lives of children.

 
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February 15, 2008, 6:51 pm PST

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After watching this episode last night (forgot it ws on my DVR), I wouldn't think any of these couples have what it takes to make a marriage work. The youngest couple, the girl said something I disagree with. She said she thinks she can be a better parent than alot of moms out there. At 19 and her boyfriend so young too, not alot of money coming in, they will automatically sign up for Government aide! They should do that baby a big favor and give it up for adoption to a family ready to pay for health ccare and daycare cost!

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I haven't met to many 19 year olds that could afford all the cost of a infant without using Government help. The problem with Government insurance is once you start a life as a family in the hole, it's hard to ever get out. Alot of those kdis end up on Government medicad or State kids care insurance till they're 18, or in up with no isurance at all. I think adoption is a wonderful thing. Had i got pregnant at 19, I would have given the baby up, my husbnd and I at the time were in college making less than $40k between the two us. We knew there wasn't $12k extra for childcare a year, $3k for formula (back then school and work, to busy to nreast feed), $600 for daipers, $800 for insurance, etc. Bottom point, if they keep thier baby at a young age, so early into a relationship, they will always struggle which will probably leave them divorced and in debt!

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The princess girl, unless a guy wants a fulltime job at home care'ing for her every need, she will end up single. Her fiance will one day go "I'm sick of walking on egg shells, I'm sick of being a slave". yes all women deserve some one to love them, cherish them, but a guy needs the same back too!

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The couple that have been on/off 10 years with a toddler at home, what is she thinking? She knows he is abusive and gets in his face yelling too? One of those two will end killing the other. Either her,scared for her life but she will then end up in jail, or he will end up killing her when he loses his temper and control.

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If the lady marriages the dude thats been married 3 times already, she's setting herself for a life of un happiness or to be ex-wife number 4 one day!

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R U NUTS! My first daughter was born just as I turned 19. She's a DR. now!  A brain surgeon as a matter of fact. What the hell makes U think they should give up their child? Youth? No  way, I also gave birth to my 2nd child at 39 and believe me I had  much more energy with the first.  By the way. my son is in med school also.  There are many families out there with money and young married people with wonderful family support that want and cherish their children and grandchildren even if they come when their parents a young. As I see it, the young couple work better together than all the others. They seem like good

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MY point is, U don't need to give up your child because you're not wealthy or because you're young,U just need to work and never loose sight of what U want out of this life. U sound like giving up your baby is like giving up a kitten, if u can't afford it just give it away! I'm so happy you didn't have a child to give up so their isn't another child out there looking for their birth parents and wondering WHY didn't my parents want me? 

 

 

 

 

Wouldn't it be terrible if they found some one like U and asked you Why? And you would say "I couldn't buy U diapers" U just weren't worth getting a second job to care for the life I brought into this world I had other things to do.

 

 
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February 15, 2008, 7:07 pm PST

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Quote From: raybes

I am 61 years old, married the first time for 19 years and 20 years into my second marriage so I've known couples with all kinds of problems. I have known engaged couples who were either not ready for marriage or totally wrong for each other. Never have I seen any couples with the multitude of  serious problems these couples have. Do any of them truly in their heart of hearts intend on actually marrying  their partner? I sometimes think some of the people (not all) are just exaggerating and dramatizing for the sake of their 15 minutes of fame. The only couple in my opinion who seem to be honest with their feelings are the teenagers.

 

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Yeah! I think the youngest couple seem like "good people" and want the help from Dr. Phil. I bet they make it. They seem to have respect for one another also don't seem to be so spoiled as the "princess"Is she a joke or what.???? If she had been one of my children she would have spent her life in time out!  LOL!
 
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February 16, 2008, 3:59 pm PST

Marriage??

The 19 yr. old couple seem more devoted to each other than the "older, mature" couples.  Sure, it will be hard for them, but they do seem to at least like each other & I don't think the others do.  My in-laws were married @ 15 with a baby on the way & 6 more to come later.  They were married over 50 yrs. before they died.  I'm sure not all of those yrs. were easy, but they were in love & committed.  My neice was 16 & they have been married 26 yrs. & raised 2 WONDERFUL boys. Please don't totally discourage the young couple.  Why would anyone even think of marrying a man that has abused her & had several affairs??  I sure pity the husband of the "princess", but he surely knows what he's getting into.

 
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