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They were beautiful twin sisters until they started abusing pills. Yvonne says she had the perfect life -- a great husband, nice house and three happy children -- until her introduction to pain pills six years ago. Shortly after, her twin, Yvette, picked up the habit too. Their lives have spiraled out of control. Their younger sister, Maria, wants to confront her sisters and make them take a hard look at what their drug abuse is doing to their kids and the entire family. You won’t believe the extreme behavior the Dr. Phil cameras capture in their home. Is one of the sisters pressuring the other to keep up her pill popping? The women live with their mother and Yvonne's three children. Find out why Yvette's daughter only sees her on the weekends. And, Yvette and Yvonne have a rocky relationship with their mother, Debbie. Why do they say she hates them? And, what does Dr. Phil say that upsets Yvette so much, she turns away and breaks down. You don't want to miss the first part of this disturbing story, and find out why this could happen to you! Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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February 6, 2008, 4:16 pm PST

02/06 Pill Popping Twins

Quote From: motherwifeof3

Until we have all left this world we r at risk!  I have "busted my rear" but each day has been a struggle.  Sometimes just the loving hand of a starnger gives you strength. Saying hey I know ur worth it so fight dang it!  With out those hands I would not have had the belief that I was worth anything!  I guess ur right we can not save the world.  But we need to reach out and save who we can without judgement.  Just a few kind words can really go a long way!  I can sit here and wonder why Dr phil keeps helping when some dont appreciate it!  When everyday I can use that kind of help bc my journey has not ended.  I have not defeated the demons that dance in my life.  Statistically I am going to be a drug addict, my daughter a tramp, my son's a thief & drug addict, etc.  But just bc I have had the heroism in my life to help me realize I am not a statistic.  I will not be a number!!  Where do you think that came from...it wasnt from my mother, my father,my family or myself!  It was a few good people who said I dont see three kids and a crazy trampy woman.  I see a woman who can do it & that is why i finally felt like somebody bc I saw something besides disgust in someones eyes.  I saw someone see me as a real person who could make a difference.  That one step gave me a better life, taught me to love myself more and in return I became a better person and a better mother. I was already began busting my rear, but the hope that these few non judgemental people gave to me was refueling.  I could do it bc someone I didnt even grow up with believed in me.  Its something that can not be explained in words.  Its a feeling in your heart that can never be described..I could then view myself differently.  I am rambling but I hope you understand what I am saying.  U have a good point!  The world is too big to save, but if we just saved one at a time....what a better place to live and how wonderful we could all feel giving alittle love to someone in need!  Its cause and effect.  Everyones worried about the children, teach the mothers to love themseleves and it will all fall into place!

I do get what you are saying too, I think we just differ in our approach, I'm a big believer in tough love because in my experience hand holding didn't help the people I have known who were in trouble but a swift kick in the butt did ...thankfully.

And as my dad always told me.... jen, your problem is you think you CAN save the world. And he was right, I care to much and want every one to be healthy and happy but they're not and there's not enough hope in the world that could change that. That was probably the saddest lesson I learned when I became an adult.

I just want you to understand since you did take the time to let me explain; I don't say what I say to be judgmental I say it because I'm hoping it will wake someone up. anger is a great motivator and I don't mind people being mad at me if it gives them the push they need to want better for themselves.

~Nixi

 
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February 6, 2008, 4:16 pm PST

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Ive been caught in a Government Bureaucracy for 6 years now and instead of trying to find out the cause of my pain they send me to a Pain Management Clinic and every 30 days he prescribes me:

 

  • Methadone
  • Percocet
  • Lyrica
  • Tizanudine
  • Lyrica
  • Lunesta

 

I want off these drugs if I stop Im not in compliant with my treatment plan - can anyone offer me advice if I decide to go off these meds myself

 

Please email me!!

doctors are the biggest drug pushers out there. the more pain meds you take, the more pain you will get. you need to get into a detox program at a rehab center.  your health insurance may pay for this or if you dont have any,  your state should pay. if you cant go to rehab, i suggest going to narcotics annymous meetings in your area, there are wonderful people ther that can help you and have already been where you are at now.  good luck
 
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February 6, 2008, 4:17 pm PST

You can not correct a moral issue!

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if methadone isnt "trading one drug for another", then why are people all across the world taking it to get high????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
It is used for treatement.  As the drug I take, "prescribed", is used to help me sleep.  You can not keep drug addicts moral.  They rob for the drug, lie for the drug, and some even die for the drug.  When someone is addicted they see no morals. The otherside is greed, many professionals feed these drugs to the addicted.  I resently changed doctors, finding a resolution to being able to sleep was difficult.  Being trsuted by my doctor to continue using the drug was not too difficult bc he saw that there was not abuse.  He does not take my current insurance and now I have to find another doctor without having to go thru a list of drugs again.  You have the responsible with morals and the irresponsible with a habit one, without one, will never understand.  When one is too afraid to feed their own addiction some immoral drug dealer driven by greed will.  So there is just so many ways to remain addicted.. I think strength and confidence is two main ingrediants that woman and mothers lack these days to stay off medication.  I have fought o stay off so many they have prescribed.  I have sorted and been a test subject for so many.  Its scarey...
 
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February 6, 2008, 4:17 pm PST

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You can take several things to get high - it's a drug. It's a painkiller. Oxy Contin is a wonderful drug when you are dying of cancer and in agony - but if you abuse it - you get high! Methadone - when used properly under the care of a doctor - is a tool for recovery. It works. Kids all over the world are drinking robitussin to get high - I don't get your point...
my point is that people are taking methadone and seboxin to detox from heroin, yet they are still getting high on the methadone and seboxin. that is trading one drug for another if you ask me. i see it at narcotics annymous meetings all the time.
 
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February 6, 2008, 4:20 pm PST

Maria

 My heart goes out to Maria.  I hope someone counseled with her about the way the twins attacked her verbally on the show for her efforts to get help.  That surely must be normal for them to react toward her the way they did.  I hope Maria understands that. Lots of cheers for Maria. 
 
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February 6, 2008, 4:21 pm PST

My husband said that the other day!!

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You can take several things to get high - it's a drug. It's a painkiller. Oxy Contin is a wonderful drug when you are dying of cancer and in agony - but if you abuse it - you get high! Methadone - when used properly under the care of a doctor - is a tool for recovery. It works. Kids all over the world are drinking robitussin to get high - I don't get your point...
I am not sure what we were watching.  But my husband made this comment the other say.  I had no idea and then he talked about taking MULTIPLE packs of motion sickness pills too.  I was defiantely taught street drugs by watching my addicted family and the whole time there was a ring of legal drugs as well.  when I was in school it was computer cleaner..or huffying..Thank goodness I was too afraid to try anything after watching my family slowly kill themsleves.  But like I said I am lucky. I might have strength now but I will always be haunted by a statistic!
 
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February 6, 2008, 4:28 pm PST

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Quote From: mbm0719

doctors are the biggest drug pushers out there! and for all of you 'patients' who are worried about having to go see the dr to get your prescriptions refilled or that you cant get the filled a day early, well maybe you need to look at yourself and see how much you really need it or if maybe you are an addict as well and just dont want to admit it!!
MMM excuse me I never really worry about getting a refill.  I refill them long before I need them bc I do not run out!  Did u miss that part, I dont abuse them,I need my meds.  I do not abuse them or take them everyday even with a prescription that says I should take two a day!  If I dont take them I dont sleep.  Then I am tired...soon I become depressed bc I am tired..beating myself up all night about what else I need to do better.  Maybe if I did go off the drug and stayed up all night with no patience for children and slept all day instead of going to work,  then I could apply for welfare and become a horrible immoral homeless soul in your eyes and then you could point your finger at me and feel impowered  and I could just buy the drugs I needed to hide from the shame you throw my way on the street and then my kids could go into the system without a mother.  YOu r judgemental & disgusting.  Just wondering how it felt to walk on wtaer...or isnt that a drug too!
 
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February 6, 2008, 4:35 pm PST

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This show has really touched home for me. My family was ripped apart, because of my mother's addiction to perscription drugs. I still don't know the full story to this day. My mother was a nurse and found the opportunity to start writting her own perscriptions. She soon became addicted. She was caught and lost her lisence. I was told by some of my family she left us childern one day, because of the drugs. I don't know if that is entirely true. I

 was only 3 at the time. I was also told she was in jail and was remarried to an abusive man. I grew up without a real mother, and when I asked where she was my father told me she was in a hospital. I know now that "hospital" was probably rehab. I wasn't able to see my mother until 10 years later when I was 13. The first day I saw her, she told me if I ever saw her taking pills and she gave me a stupid excuse to what they were,  I would know what she was really doing. She had not kicked her addiction. We actually we able to grow quite closer throught the years. Towards the end of my junior year, she told me the reason she popped pills. She would start thinking about how she abandoned us children, and she would get very depressed so she would take the pills. The pills would make the pain go away she said. Then should would feel guilty and get clean. When she was clean she would start thinking about us again and the vicious cycle would start all over again. Soon after that she was arrested again for writting another perscription. She was sentanced to 18 months and I was crushed, because I was afraid she wouldn't see her baby girl graduate. Fortunatlly she made paroll.

My older brother recently had a child of his own. He recently just started breaking down, because he is afraid he is going to do the same thing to his child. So instead of pills he dealt with it by drinking. He is suffered from alcoholism for something he didn't do. I felto bad for him. During xmas he got a DUI, and was so embarassed he was suicidle. Everything is fine now. He has sobered up and is a great father.

As for me, I have strick morals and beliefs. I don't believe in drinking, abusing drugs, smoking, chewing, etc. I fear that I am at a high risk for addictive behavior so I don't even want to give it a chance.  There are other ways to enjoy life. I want to someday become a wonderful mother and give my kids a life that I didn't have.

It is horrible to see these women's childern suffer from their addictions. It makes me sick. Their childern only have one life and they are ruining it for them. It is beyond me how they can't see what they are doing to their children. 

Perscription abuse is rampid in today's society. WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!

 

 

 PICKING UP THE PIECES

 

 

PLEASE SEE THAT THSE CHILDREN FROM TODAY'S SHOW ARE TAKEN AWAY TODAY. I HAVE TEMP CUSTODY (OR EXTENDED STAY ) OF MY 8 YEAR OLD GREAT NEPHEW AND HIS 9 YEAR OLD SISTER. THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING ALL THEIR LIFE. WE HAVE LOST COUNT OF THE MEN AND THE MOVES THEY HAVE BEEN A PART OF. RECENTLY, MOMS NEW BEAU OFFER THE 9 YEAR OLD MONEY FOR SEX.......MOM SAID HE WAS HIGH WHICH IN HER DRUG MIND MADE IT OK. SO IT WAS BACK TO COURT FOR ME TO ONCE AGAIN TRY AND SALVAGE THESE KIDS LIFE. WISH I COULD BE A JUDGE FOR ONE DAY. DECISIONS NEED TO BE FAST AND HARD. IT HAS BEEN 5 WEEKS NOW AND THEIR MOM JUST WENT INTO REHAB. SHE EXPLAINED IT IS A SOCIAL REHAB...HOW NICE FOR HER. I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR SOCIAL ANYTHING BECAUSE I'M TAKING CARE OF HER CHILDREN. IT IS TOUGH FOR THE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO AREN'T INVOLVED IN THIS LIFESTYLE. AND LIFESTYLE IT IS. THEY CHOOSE TO DO THIS!

 
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February 6, 2008, 4:38 pm PST

Judgement!

I realize that some tend to think anyone who has had a prescribtion must be addicted bc some doctor puhed it on them.  That is why the world is soooo bad!  Most of the addicts I have known buy their drugs from the streets where the greedy prey on their addiction.  I am not an addict bc a doctor says something will work for me.  What about my mother, the one who has armed me with the demons that haunt me at night and create the isomnia that drives my need for an occasional sleeping pill.  Is she not partially responsible bc I could not function is this world as a healthy adult bc I saw her turn to drugs!  Hello not a drug addict, not recovering, etc....So now as you point your finger from your velvet little throne with all the answers maybe you can just try to extend a loving heart one person in which u depise their life.  Where u think u have all the answers and make them feel love..maybe it will empower you.  These poor twins should be thankful they have DR Phil to tell them like it is but love to help anyway.  Bc I realize the world is fulll of judgemental and sad sad people!
 
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February 6, 2008, 5:00 pm PST

Twins

I watched the show today, and I became very angry when Dr. Phil said that when one twin does something the other wil follow.  I am (was) a twin, I lost my twin brother in November of 2005, not all twins follow what the other does.  I got so angry about that and just wanted to clear that up.  There have been no studies that I am aware of that says ANYONE that is a TWIN follows what the other does.  As for the pill popping twins, I can understand their lack of control over addiction, people have addictions whether it be pills, alcohol, cigarettes, or shopping and the list can go on.  I do feel for the twins, but they can overcome the addiction, they just need to get the right help  and have a good support system in place.  I was an alcoholic after losing my twin brother to cancer, I went into rehab and had a great support system in place and I have been sober for 14 months now.  So to the twins "YOU CAN DO IT, THERE IS HOPE!"
 
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