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They were beautiful twin sisters until they started abusing pills. Yvonne says she had the perfect life -- a great husband, nice house and three happy children -- until her introduction to pain pills six years ago. Shortly after, her twin, Yvette, picked up the habit too. Their lives have spiraled out of control. Their younger sister, Maria, wants to confront her sisters and make them take a hard look at what their drug abuse is doing to their kids and the entire family. You won’t believe the extreme behavior the Dr. Phil cameras capture in their home. Is one of the sisters pressuring the other to keep up her pill popping? The women live with their mother and Yvonne's three children. Find out why Yvette's daughter only sees her on the weekends. And, Yvette and Yvonne have a rocky relationship with their mother, Debbie. Why do they say she hates them? And, what does Dr. Phil say that upsets Yvette so much, she turns away and breaks down. You don't want to miss the first part of this disturbing story, and find out why this could happen to you! Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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February 6, 2008, 5:10 pm PST

Love is the only house...

I am not sure if everyone knows Martina Mcbride.  She sings an awesome sone called "Loves the nly house big enough for all the pain in the world" When the down and out girl says she needs to buy alittle carton of milk but she doesnt have any money!  Then she says "I will cover you honey." The reaching and believeing in this world is what makes a difference.  I have had someone buy me a carton of milk...everyone has a story.  We can not only be blind by the addiction and the ugliness.  These women have a story that has brought them here.  Love is big enough to help heal, and with healing these children will be saved.  Do not stand higher then tho..come on down to their level and reach out with alittle love.  "come on over to my house honey...bc love is the only house big enough for all the pain in the world." 

 

I have never been an addict, but I have been down and out & the little things are why I am where I am today.  Those who sit in their thrown probably wouldnt even believe my story.  The point is love and understand & so many good things come from that.  Put your finger down awhile and listen!

 
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February 6, 2008, 5:12 pm PST

02/06 Pill Popping Twins

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I watched the show today, and I became very angry when Dr. Phil said that when one twin does something the other wil follow.  I am (was) a twin, I lost my twin brother in November of 2005, not all twins follow what the other does.  I got so angry about that and just wanted to clear that up.  There have been no studies that I am aware of that says ANYONE that is a TWIN follows what the other does.  As for the pill popping twins, I can understand their lack of control over addiction, people have addictions whether it be pills, alcohol, cigarettes, or shopping and the list can go on.  I do feel for the twins, but they can overcome the addiction, they just need to get the right help  and have a good support system in place.  I was an alcoholic after losing my twin brother to cancer, I went into rehab and had a great support system in place and I have been sober for 14 months now.  So to the twins "YOU CAN DO IT, THERE IS HOPE!"
Sorry to hear about your loss!  It sounds like you have had quite the journey.  Good for you, finding your way is a tough road.  I can see how you became upset!  Kudos to u!
 
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February 6, 2008, 5:15 pm PST

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Wow, glad you're perfect.  Makes it easier to pass judgment on everyone else.  Kudos!
I agree with you 100%, nixi333.  Taking pills for everything IS the easy lazy way out.   There are many other options if people would only take the time to seek them out.
 
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February 6, 2008, 5:21 pm PST

Would a maitenance program help these twins?

I would very much like for the show to touch on just how many people are living productively and safely while on methadone programs.  We are college graduates, executives, parents, normal every day people who have been saved by participating in a methadone program.  The stigma of methadone arises when the general public thinks that everyone who is prescribed methadone is still a slurring sleepy addict who is unable to care for themselves or their children.  I hope everyone watching the show is able to keep in mind that these sisters have obtained their methadone and xanax illegally.  What their "friend who sells them these meds" should realize is that if either of these women dies from an overdose you will be held responsible and will end up doing a lot of time in jail.  Ask yourself if you are really helping them! 

 
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February 6, 2008, 5:22 pm PST

Typical addicts.

That is what I saw from the twins.  Typical addict behavior.  Yes, they take drugs, but it's not their fault. Did you hear the excuses?  I take drugs to help me sleep because I work long hours, I'm stressed out from my kids, I take drugs to be happy,  I take them because I'm depressed, our mom hates us and makes us want to take drugs, blah, blah, blah.  No ownership.

They blame work, kids, mom, stress, sadness, depression; things we all have to deal with.  But they never admit it's their fault; that they made bad decisions.  Typical addict behavior.  Maria, their sister brought them on the show for help, but Yvette blamed her for the embarrassment she felt.  Yvette told Dr. Phil she had no ownership in her own embarrassment, even though it was her choice to take pills.  It's no one's fault that they take pills and are embarrassed by their behavior.  Well, not Yvonne.  She doesn't think she has a problem, so I guess she has nothing to be embarrassed about. 

Addicts don't accept blame.  They will find a way to put it on someone/something else.  They make justifications that don't even make sense.  We heard Yvette say she took the pills for pain.  Did anyone hear her mention what ailment she had?  She didn't have physical pain, it was emotional pain.  That is not what pain killers are for.  She made an excuse that was just ridiculous instead of just saying, "I chose to take them because I have no self control and now I'm addicted."

I have had broken bones, a back injury, teeth pulled, a fractured ankle, and second degree burns.  Each time I was given a prescription for pain killers.  To this day I am not addicted to them.  Know why?  I threw away every one of them.  I can't get addicted if I don't start taking them.  People, including my father, told me I was insane.  But I thought, what's worse; dealing with short term pain or long term addiction?  Even if I had taken them as recommended,  I was in the Army, I've worked with heavy machinery, worked in factories, worked in jobs where I had to drive a lot, and I have three boys.  My mind has to be clear at all times to be affective doing all of these things.  It's simply about making intelligent, mature decisions.

For those of you who stated you felt sorry for the twins, don't.  It was their choice.  They are not victims.  If you have to feel sorry for anyone, feel sorry for their children.  The kids didn't choose to live in that chaos.

 
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February 6, 2008, 5:32 pm PST

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I would very much like for the show to touch on just how many people are living productively and safely while on methadone programs.  We are college graduates, executives, parents, normal every day people who have been saved by participating in a methadone program.  The stigma of methadone arises when the general public thinks that everyone who is prescribed methadone is still a slurring sleepy addict who is unable to care for themselves or their children.  I hope everyone watching the show is able to keep in mind that these sisters have obtained their methadone and xanax illegally.  What their "friend who sells them these meds" should realize is that if either of these women dies from an overdose you will be held responsible and will end up doing a lot of time in jail.  Ask yourself if you are really helping them! 

This is a great point.  There is a rise in interest when some find out what you r taking from a doctor.  I havent a clue how one would take a Zanex in the day time while working or tending to children.  I refuse to contribute not only for responsiblity of losing a life but bc it is a shame for those of us who need them to feed a habit for an addict who has no control! Sleeping at night changed my life literally!  Without sleep I just od not know how I would raise three children and deal with all the emotions of being a motherless mother!  Its not the drugs that help me function.  Its the sleep that it brings in the night. If only some could see that these drugs do serve a productive purpose in the world can they begin to understand. It was a bit of a bother to hear the one say she needed them to sleep.  It was a coma that I saw, I take my half or full pill and go to sleep and get up in the morning...make breakfast...lunches..drive children tot he bus stop and schoolwith kisses and love & function greatly just bc I can sleep.  It seems like such a simple thing but before I found a relief I couldnt have functioned properly.  Lack of sleep is like heck guarnteed! 
 
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February 6, 2008, 5:42 pm PST

Embarrassed by her addiction

After watching the twins today I really feel for their family.  Three weeks ago my husband and I checked our 16 year old son into a treatment center for substance abuse.  I felt no embarrassment, only pain for my son and what had happened in our family.   We live in a small community of about 3500 and many people know what is going on.  I hope my sons story and issues will shed light on his user friends and their parents.  I want this to help others.  For the twins to say they are embarrassed is selfish  and obviously do not wish to get better. I pray for the rest of the family and that they get the support they need as we have.

 

 
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February 6, 2008, 6:03 pm PST

ignorance

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My God Yvette sounds like my 12 yr old niece... My mommy hates me because she won't let me have whatever I want! 

 I can't stand how drug addicts think. Yvonne actually said that Yvette tries her best with the kids ....well I'm sorry but if thats her best she does not deserve her kids, neither of them do!

With all the things doctors and regular people know about certain prescription drugs I can't believe they have not stopped using them, it's obviously not worth the risk. There are other ways to control pain. Pills that don't make you high or a whole list of non medicinal options.

Why does every one want the easy way out??

Over weight---take a pill

stressed -----take a pill

depressed  ---- take a pill

back pain ----take a pill

can't sleep----- take a pill

can't wake up-----take a pill
Good God how about exercise?? How about taking a walk in the woods to get away from the noise or problems for a little while?? How about talking to a good friend or writing a letter or in a journal to get it off your chest??

Nope; God forbid anybody does alittle work to make it better! Nope let's just be lazy and take a pill!!!!

Sad Sad Sad.

 

I think you are being a bit ignorant. How about some empathy for these people? How do you know how an addict thinks. I do. My mother was one. Read my story. Put yourself in their shoes. It has been proven that one's genetics can leave them at a higher risk for things like heart disease, diabetes, breast cancer, and especially addictions. I would know. I've taken several genetics classes. Each person is wired differently. People don't react the same when given  things like pain killers. That is why some people can have several incidents where they NEED pain killers (surgery, broken bones, etc.) and they don't have any reliance to the medication while others take one pill once and they are hooked. So don't be ignorant and judge docters and the health system like that. You can entirely wip these medications off the market. More testing and evidence needs to be provided.  While yes there are other ways to control the pain, but they are not as effective. As for your comment of a pills for everything: There is no pill that cures being overweight. Diet and exercise does. Imagine a world without some of these perscriptions.  I think the benefits greatly out way the consequences so far.  By the way, walking away from your problems IS NOT THE SOLUTION! In pyschology they say the only  effective way to solve problems , especially anger, is to direct it at the problem itself, instead of  "getting it off your chest" to a friend. Does that really solve the problem? Stop generalizing as well. Not everyone is "lazy" and takes a pill for everything. Ignorance is not bliss. Stop being so closed minded.
 
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February 6, 2008, 6:06 pm PST

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I am currently taking pain medication for a variety of ailments.  I don't believe that this have interfered with my life.  The reason?  I take them as prescribed and am under a physician's care.  Unless I have another surgery, I will probably continue to take these drugs.  They are not very strong and I TAKE THEM AS PRESCRIBED.  The reason that pain meds get such a terrible rep is that people take two, three, four times the amount prescribed.  They take them to get high.  These women....I'm sorry, but these women are immature and irresponsible beyond reason.  It's hard to know what they were like before but responsible people don't take drugs and kill people -- people who are high on drugs kill people.  If you have a headache, do you take 10 aspirin?  No, you could really hurt yourself that way.  Every sad story of addiction begins with the addict deciding to up his dosage and continuing to up his/her dosage.  Maybe it's easier to blame the drug.

I agree with you.  I too have to take prescribed pain medication and if I didn't take it I couldn't function.  As it is I barely have a life, I cannot work, drive, etc because of my back injury.  However that doesn't mean I pop pills to "Get high".   This is what really annoys me when I see these people boohooing on tv about their addiction.  Yes it's sad, but no one prescribed the medications to begin with and then you go and take more then what would be prescribed anyway!!  Blaming the drugs is the easy way out.  But sorry these drugs also do many people a great service.  We take them to be able to deal with our pain, not to pass out or get stoned. 

 

As for the person who wrote that these drugs are handed out to easily I have to laugh.  I don't know what state you are living in but here in Florida if you go to a pain management doctor or clinic the last thing they do is prescribe these types of drugs.  It's when all else fails to help that they will start you on small doses of a narcotic to help you deal with your chronic pain.   You don't just walk in and say I'm hurting I need Oxycotin, or whatever.  The doctors will never go for that.  They are monitored so closely by the state that they will not give you anything until you've tried, physical therapy, bio-feedback, massage, facet injection, the list goes on and on.  The people that get these drugs without a legit issue have made it so difficult for those of us who have legit problems.  In a way it's a good thing in another it's a bad thing.  I don't know how many times I've gone to a new doctor and would get the raised eyebrow when I bring up the medications I take.  Automatically they profile you as "drug seeking" it's only after reading your complete medical history and getting to know you after a few months that they stop giving you that look.  It's very disheartening for real chronic pain patients.

 
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February 6, 2008, 6:22 pm PST

You misunderstood

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i hope you or someone you know close to you never becomes addicted to something!!  you should learn about addiction before you start making comments like that!!!!
I am a psychotherapist and I DO know a lot about addictions. My point is: even wealthy, professional people get addicted to over the counter drugs and such. It is NOT a socioecomic issue as you indicated by saying that these women are low class people. Are you completely unaware of Heath Ledger's tragic death due to an overdose to prescription medications? Are you unaware of the other programs that Dr. Phil has done on this subject, including the one where a psychiatric nurse at a rehab facility was addicted to Oxycodone? Please get your facts straight and learn to read.
 
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