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They were beautiful twin sisters until they started abusing pills. Yvonne says she had the perfect life -- a great husband, nice house and three happy children -- until her introduction to pain pills six years ago. Shortly after, her twin, Yvette, picked up the habit too. Their lives have spiraled out of control. Their younger sister, Maria, wants to confront her sisters and make them take a hard look at what their drug abuse is doing to their kids and the entire family. You won’t believe the extreme behavior the Dr. Phil cameras capture in their home. Is one of the sisters pressuring the other to keep up her pill popping? The women live with their mother and Yvonne's three children. Find out why Yvette's daughter only sees her on the weekends. And, Yvette and Yvonne have a rocky relationship with their mother, Debbie. Why do they say she hates them? And, what does Dr. Phil say that upsets Yvette so much, she turns away and breaks down. You don't want to miss the first part of this disturbing story, and find out why this could happen to you! Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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February 6, 2008, 8:31 pm PST

02/06 Pill Popping Twins

 

 I just got through watching the first part of the pill popping twins and I have to say I am literally sick to my stomach. I just don't understand how anyone could be so inconsiderate of their own children. Ive been were they are now I had a bad addiction to crystal meth Ive went through 5 different rehabs and the moment i found out i was pregnant with my oldest daughter i was done out of the game for good finding out I was pregnant was the most sobering experiences ever, so for them to have children and then start using sickens me. I am only 21 now with two daughters and I am well on my way to a bachelors degree in social work and plan to go all the way for my masters then my Ph. degree .Throughout the entire show I kept thinking I just want to go into their home and show them that it doesn't have to be that way and all that chaos is not caused by their children.Oh and another thing if anyone and i mean anyone would ever talk to my kids the way the aunt was talking to the niece and then hitting her with a remote control oooow lord help us all cause you would never get away with that .I always felt that I was too young to be able to raise kids but know I realize as long as your kids best interest are at heart you can do it. I will pray for everyone involved in this situation.. AND WITH THAT I'M OUT. 

 
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February 6, 2008, 9:05 pm PST

I agree with you stop judging and treat them like humans

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I did it too!  My mom didnt give a flip, she was a drug addict and I was a lost child.  Three children and three marriages later  I am not hooked on drugs.  I do take Zanex to sleep bc I am so hard on myself I suffer from severe insomnia, a result of my mother constantly telling me I wouldnt amount to anything.  Something I have leanred to control but I am not perfect enough to rid of.  I work hard and do not do drugs, we have a wonderful home in a place most call yuppieville bc I busted my rear.  But I could have just as easily been either one of these mothers.  I am not a fool tot hink I never will face this type of lonliness, but to judge is a disgrace.  Not everyone is dealt a great hand in the world.  Sometimes the fight to change the hand you were dealt is beoynd yourself.  I hope for these twins that they find strength, that they use their own failures and the failures of their mother as a good reason to make change.  They r not alone, mothers struggle each day to survive mothering children in this world.  I do it without my mother, she is still s drug addict.  I am a picture of a survivor and still each day I struggle, even though I have never been addicted or had a drug in control of me and my life.  I suffer and I struggle, I am no better then these mothers, I am just lucky something or somebosy has given me the strength to fight for something better. Shame on you for judging. As I am sure there is plenty you have shoved in your own closet!  Bless these mothers for sharing their story with one million viewers.  Some of which may have needed to hear they were not alone. 
 I think the reason one twin got so angry was how everyone was responding. No one there seemed to have any compassion. I know the sister that called in started to say her sister was a good person but was not being a good parent at the time. I think that is what she was starting to say and the audience was not having it have way out of her mouth saying she is good she stopped and said she was not a good mother. Then need to be reminded they are good people who may try to and want to do right by the kids but are having trouble doing it bc of the drugs. If they can get off the drugs they will do just what they want and it will make them happier.  I am a single mother of 3 and I have several addicts in my large family that has come from growing up in a sexual physical and mental abusive house. I also am suppose to take meds. I don't bc I am afraid of becoming an addict. My family is no help. Some have died some are too addicted to make any sense and Drs and therapist tell me I need the med take them. So after fighting them for about 6 years now and taking some them stopping and trying others and stooping or never really taking the full amount if I did it and became addicted I would hate to run into this judgmental person and would hope to run into someone with compassion like you......
 
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February 6, 2008, 9:18 pm PST

02/06 Pill Popping Twins

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Don't you think I have... Dr. Phil was my last resort.  Anything you can think of, I have done..

CPS x 3.

Cops and Child welfare is not the answer they do not respond to the right thing if they respond at all. The law throws out threats and small fines but not much more. Maybe a class or something but even the drug test are not right the people have the chance to cheat the test and everyone knows about it. I know now because it is a joke and it has happened in my family. I feel for you as the sister I know I have and am there with my brother and his kids. Several members of my family. I think you are doing the right thing now. Dr Phil is not God but seems to know the right things to say and street to walk down and how to attempt to get people down the right road and the means $$$$$ to help. I hope your sisters take it from him and do well. The one sister says she want to be happy. I know this feeling all to well. I understand her as well as anyone and so often am tempted to stop the inside pain with anything no matter right or wrong. I hope people stop judging and she feels cared about on part 2.

 
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February 6, 2008, 9:47 pm PST

Hard spot to be in...

Well I just watched the last half of this show. I myself take pain pills and have had a heck of a time to kick the habit. I have 5 children my addiction started soon after I had twins. I had 5 kids in 5 years I think at first it starts as a escape then soon you are up to25 pills a day. I wish this never happened to me!! If I wasn't so ashamed I would seek help(tried once felt out of place in AA like it didn't apply to me). I have a husband that feels if we don't talk about it ti doesn't exist which makes it difficult to deal with. this addiction makes me want to just not have to deal with life this way. When it's time to get more pills waiting is the rush! I myself have a Dr. that fills 90 pills every 15 days which makes it difficult. My problem is this Do I really want to quit?? I will go a week or so and be ok but the only thing on my mind is when can I refill?? I'm pathetic and know that but just don't know how to stop.The sad part is I will steal pills from anyone that has them in their bathroom. makes me feel like crap but just can't stop myself. I'm hoping one day soon I can drop this habit. Maybe when the Dr. stops the refills. So Sad How did I turn into this??? I am not sure what these twins are taking but wish them all the luck in the world! Tough road ahead of them
 
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February 7, 2008, 3:56 am PST

02/06 Pill Popping Twins

I was so upset after watching the show that I had to come immediately to my computer and state my comment.  Dr. Phil please make sure that you contact child protective services for these children as they are in an enviroment that is extremely dangerous for them.  You stated you were doing the show for the children well!!!! please make sure that you take care of the needs of these children by helping them get out of the situation until such time that Yvonne and Yvette get the help they soooo need. I am a grandmother and I can tell you my grandchildren would never hae been left in a situation like that I would have personally called CPS and had my grandchildren removed from my child and taken them in to my home ASAP.  These women are adults and are responsible for the situation they find themselves in.  Those children need an advocate to protect them. Why has Maria not taking steps to call CPS and protect them, she is the AUNT!!!!!!!
 
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February 7, 2008, 4:56 am PST

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I know how the sister that called the show feels. She just wants help for her sisters and hates to see them this way. I do feel compassion for them because I know what they are going through however the do not have the right to put these children in this mess. I have a brother and sister who will take anything they can get their hands on if it will make them high. They both do crack and marijuana. They have stolen from their own children to support their habits. They will do anything they have to do to get drugs. And unless they are willing to get help which they both deny they need there is not a thing I can do about it. My sister had 4 kids. The twins mama kept until they were 5, they are 16 now. Maria who is 12 whom I have had since birth because she was selling herself on the streets for drugs and got pregnant then didnt want her because she is mixed. And a 3 year old whom she lost custody of when she went to jail for a year.

My parents enable them both. They beleive evey word that comes out of their mouths.

So I know what it is like to have family members hooked on drugs. It has got to the point that I dont care to see either one of them. They are full of lies and excuses. My other brother is in prison because he got hooked on crack after hanging out with the other 2 and he held up a bank.  My oldest brother is an alcholic.


These little kids need to be taken away from these people until they get their lives in order. You cant sit there and say your kids are the most important thing in your life and then treat them this way and subject them to this abuse. The most important thing in these twins lives are not hte children or anything else but drugs and where they are going to get their next high from. The one twin that said she was not as bad as her sister was flat out lying, in denial. You could tell they were both high as they sat there on stage.

They both need serious help before it is to late. But the number one priority is getting those kids out of that mess. And the mother needs help also. She is apparently an alcholic and not helping. But for the girls to say she needs to leave is stupid. That is her home not theirs. If anyone needs to leave it would be them.

Get the help you need and stand on your own 2 feet.

 
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February 7, 2008, 5:53 am PST

02/07 You just don't know!!!!

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I read your post...Please try to use this drug...Suboxone...it is a great tool. No withdrawls...then you taper off the Suboxone. It will allow you to clear your head, amd to be able to make clear choices!

 

 

You can do it.I did.

 

Carmen

I have multiple back injuries, I have been out of work since 2006.I was an active person,whom enjoyed picking up the slack at work,Totally loyal to my job!I have alway's been one to put 100% into what ever I do!I have also been in constent pain.I cuoldn't walk at 41 yrs.I have been on pain pills for the pain that pain management  doesn't  take care of.Now I have had migrain headaches.The Dr has just put me on another pill for this.It makes me feel disoriented and I loose my balance.I don't like It, Iwill call my Dr.I have seen what the perscription drugs can do.My husbands twin has alway's abused drug's.He has caused so much heartache for this family,It's just not fair.He has many times endangered our lives.The last straw for us was when he was snorting  perscription psyc. Meds.He was so out of it ,it was scarey.I could tell so many stories that would scare anyone!I have had chairs thrown at me,a chef'ts knife thrown a half inch from my head.We have our freezer & frig. plugged into a surg protecter on the floor.My husband went down for coffee at 5am,walked in the kitchen there was 2inches of water in the floor.He could have been electricuted over stupidity.He has to have that high no matter what the coast.He is one that doesn't want to change.I pray these twins make the choice to clean thier lives up.It is alway's on my mind when I get these scripts.I know what they can do.I do know the children in their care need to be protected & I'm sure Dr.Phil will see to that.I get very anoid seeing this.I have alway's wanted a child,I geuss God has other plans for me.These girls have issues,once they deal with these issues apart,they can handle life together!!I do wish them the best!

 

Think about your children! It will give you inspiration!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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February 7, 2008, 6:16 am PST

To Maria

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Maria, if you are reading this... stay strong and know that you are doing the best possible thing to help your family.  The truth is hard to hear for addicts, but intervention is often the only way to help them see how much they need help.  You are absolutely doing the right thing. 

God bless!

 

I am devastated for you.  You are doing the right thing.  I hope you realize that when your sisters lash out at you that is just because they are not well.  I know that you are doing the best you can by your nieces and nephews by making people aware this is going on so they can all get help.

 

I couldn't help noticing how beautiful those twins were in their before photos.  My heart just breaks when I see what those drugs have done to their bodies and faces. 

 

This was the saddest story I have heard of in a long time and I hope this family finds help.

 
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February 7, 2008, 6:20 am PST

you know it!

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I agree with you.  I too have to take prescribed pain medication and if I didn't take it I couldn't function.  As it is I barely have a life, I cannot work, drive, etc because of my back injury.  However that doesn't mean I pop pills to "Get high".   This is what really annoys me when I see these people boohooing on tv about their addiction.  Yes it's sad, but no one prescribed the medications to begin with and then you go and take more then what would be prescribed anyway!!  Blaming the drugs is the easy way out.  But sorry these drugs also do many people a great service.  We take them to be able to deal with our pain, not to pass out or get stoned. 

 

As for the person who wrote that these drugs are handed out to easily I have to laugh.  I don't know what state you are living in but here in Florida if you go to a pain management doctor or clinic the last thing they do is prescribe these types of drugs.  It's when all else fails to help that they will start you on small doses of a narcotic to help you deal with your chronic pain.   You don't just walk in and say I'm hurting I need Oxycotin, or whatever.  The doctors will never go for that.  They are monitored so closely by the state that they will not give you anything until you've tried, physical therapy, bio-feedback, massage, facet injection, the list goes on and on.  The people that get these drugs without a legit issue have made it so difficult for those of us who have legit problems.  In a way it's a good thing in another it's a bad thing.  I don't know how many times I've gone to a new doctor and would get the raised eyebrow when I bring up the medications I take.  Automatically they profile you as "drug seeking" it's only after reading your complete medical history and getting to know you after a few months that they stop giving you that look.  It's very disheartening for real chronic pain patients.

 When I finally gave up trying to have doctors understand chronic pain and went to a pain management clinic, I was shocked at how well I was treated.  I expected to be treated like a drug seeker but the doctor was able to measure my pain through some sort of electronic reading.  He said, Yes, You do have 7 out of 10 pain on the scale.  I almost cried as for so long I felt like I was lying about my pain because doctors made me feel weird.  Physical pain causes emotional pain but physical pain can be treated by drugs.  Emotional pain can never be treated by drugs and that's what these twins are enduring.  I am shocked that it seems that they've never been worked up by a doctor or a psychiatrist.  It's obvious that something is going on with them but I'm frustrated with chronic pain sufferers being treated like emotionally pained drugseekers.  Pain is a very big part of my life and the drugs allow me to clean my house, take care of the yard, sit at a desk and work, etc. etc.  I really wish people would stop branding pain medication as the reason for all their problems.
 
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February 7, 2008, 6:33 am PST

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Yvonne & Yvette

Hey ladies "hold your head up high" you made the choice to take these pills and you can make the choice "not to take them", which obviously is the right thing to do, and the best thing to do for yourselves and for your children.  Your children are precious and need their mom's in their lives, where will they be without you?  Perhaps on the same road your on, if you don't make some positive changes ASAP.  It will be tougher getting off them than it was getting on them, with a whole lot of determination and will power I know you both can do it !!!! It will take a total life change, but if its what you want you will survive through it all.  Don't be upset with Maria or embarassed by her reaching out for help, someday you will thank her for what she has done.  It takes a big heart and a lot of love for you both to do what she did.  Sometimes love is tough and powerful.  My heart goes out to all of you, I really believe good will come from it all.  

 
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