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Topic : 02/06 Pill Popping Twins

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Created on : Friday, February 01, 2008, 02:19:57 pm
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They were beautiful twin sisters until they started abusing pills. Yvonne says she had the perfect life -- a great husband, nice house and three happy children -- until her introduction to pain pills six years ago. Shortly after, her twin, Yvette, picked up the habit too. Their lives have spiraled out of control. Their younger sister, Maria, wants to confront her sisters and make them take a hard look at what their drug abuse is doing to their kids and the entire family. You won’t believe the extreme behavior the Dr. Phil cameras capture in their home. Is one of the sisters pressuring the other to keep up her pill popping? The women live with their mother and Yvonne's three children. Find out why Yvette's daughter only sees her on the weekends. And, Yvette and Yvonne have a rocky relationship with their mother, Debbie. Why do they say she hates them? And, what does Dr. Phil say that upsets Yvette so much, she turns away and breaks down. You don't want to miss the first part of this disturbing story, and find out why this could happen to you! Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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February 7, 2008, 8:13 am PST

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Addiction is so painful for the families of the addict! You cannot really help someone who is not willing to help themselves, but, you can and must help yourself to cope. It's too easy to lose yourself in another's addiction. They are absolutely what I call "soul-sucking", whether they mean to be or not.

 

There are programs for people like you who need coping tools, like Alanon for families of alcoholics, and Narcotics Anonymous for families of drug addicts. I strongly suggest that you find the nearest meetings and attend them...I can tell you from experience that they can be life-changing. I believe that you can find these organizations in the phone book.

 

You don't give your age, but anyone at any age can attend these meetings. It's amazing what a support group can do. It's nice to know you aren't alone.

 

Educate yourself as much as possible on this subject....knowledge is power!

 

Good luck, and God bless!

I was(am) totally addicted to getting them help and a life ,,,and yes I lost reality of my own life.I am checking into the meetings as we speak,,,thank you
 
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February 7, 2008, 8:30 am PST

popping pills

I am confused about the show. Why has not the social services not taken the childred

away from them. They donot deserve to have the children. I am scared for the kids. 

 
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February 7, 2008, 8:43 am PST

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Too many people become addicted to perscription drugs after some incident they initially talk about -- but often a deeper pain exists.  I've witnessed the suffering of my close friend as her son died after several "recoveries" from drugs and I have a friend who has just returned from a year in a clinic to recover from her addictions.  Neither was simply "hooked" on drugs -- underlying problems exist and recovery is never a quick fix or even a couple of months in a clinic.  A complete life change must occur.  It will be sad to watch these twins on national tv, but hopefully their story will help prevent even just one person from having to go down this path.
Unless you are an MD or have some specialized training in this area,  I would not be giving out advice. Each and every person is different.  As for myself, I had never taken a narcotic until I fractured my shoulder and was give Vicodin for pain.  I was not automatically "hooked" on the drug, but as time went on and the fracture was healing, I continued taking the drug and it is only now, fast forward two years, that I still take it.  NOW, I am hooked. I pray every day to get this monkey off my back.  It is not easy in any way, shape or form.  I sympathize and can relate with people who are stuck in this rut, and I am in awe of the people who had the strength to get off the drugs.  Please just show a little sensitivity.....it is a living hell.
 
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February 7, 2008, 9:20 am PST

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I agree that the twins need some kind of intervention to get clean, but my main concern is the children caught in the middle of this. My nephew was caught up in this kind of situation until he was five years old.That is when I found out about the situation as we lived 400 miles from each other. One of my uncles called me to tell me my brother was in jail and if something wasn't done my nephew would probably end up dead.  My husband at the time and I discussed what we needed to do and what it would mean if we went to get him and bring him back to live with us. I had three daugters from a previous marriage and the youngest was in her senior year in high school. This would mean we would be starting all over again. After weighing the options, we decided we were probably his only hope of having a decent life. We both took a day off work and made the 400 mile trip. Our first stop was the jail to see my brother. I explained the phone call from our uncle. I told him I wanted him to write me something stating I could take custody of his son, which he did. Then he gave me the address for where I could find my nephew. When we got there I told my sister-in-law I was there for my nephew. At first she was going to argue with me until I told her I would call the police. After getting him back to our house I discovered bruises all over his body. The next day I called Child protective services and they sent a worker over right away. They took pictures and put him in protective services in my care so his mother could not come and take him back. He was in therapy for three years because of the mental and physical abuse he went through. I spent seven years going through the California court system to get permanent custody of him. His adoption was final on his twelth birthday. I am happy to say after years of therapy and being in a home where he knew he was wanted and loved, he turned out to be a fine young man. He is now 27 years old, in the Army as a linguist stationed in Germany. He has made me very proud considering what he had to cope with. He still has the memories and has no interest in having any kind of relationship with his birth parents,but would like to know how they could put him through what they put him through. The twins probably think these kids are too young to know what kind of hell they're putting them through, but I know from experince this will follow them the rest of their lives. Someone needs to get those children away from that invironment ASAP!!!
 
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February 7, 2008, 9:57 am PST

02/06 Pill Popping Twins

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My God Yvette sounds like my 12 yr old niece... My mommy hates me because she won't let me have whatever I want! 

 I can't stand how drug addicts think. Yvonne actually said that Yvette tries her best with the kids ....well I'm sorry but if thats her best she does not deserve her kids, neither of them do!

With all the things doctors and regular people know about certain prescription drugs I can't believe they have not stopped using them, it's obviously not worth the risk. There are other ways to control pain. Pills that don't make you high or a whole list of non medicinal options.

Why does every one want the easy way out??

Over weight---take a pill

stressed -----take a pill

depressed  ---- take a pill

back pain ----take a pill

can't sleep----- take a pill

can't wake up-----take a pill
Good God how about exercise?? How about taking a walk in the woods to get away from the noise or problems for a little while?? How about talking to a good friend or writing a letter or in a journal to get it off your chest??

Nope; God forbid anybody does alittle work to make it better! Nope let's just be lazy and take a pill!!!!

Sad Sad Sad.

 

You need to take a chill pill.
 
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February 7, 2008, 10:13 am PST

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I am confused about the show. Why has not the social services not taken the childred

away from them. They donot deserve to have the children. I am scared for the kids. 

On and on the legacy goes.  Yvette cries that her mother only calls her names and criticizes her and Yvonne.  Yet on TV she calls the children brats, they don't listen, only that one is nice (that really upset me!),etc... 

They are living like children- with their mommy.  They treat the children like lequals.  Even worse they expect the children to be little adults while they behave like children.  They are raising future drug addicts and alcoholics.  These children not only cannot go to the park and be normal children but their mothers actually blame them for their addictions.  "I cannot handle the stress of these kids, they are such brats...." One day that is how they will deal with stress.  It is all they know. 
 
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February 7, 2008, 10:14 am PST

everyone is different

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I am currently taking pain medication for a variety of ailments.  I don't believe that this have interfered with my life.  The reason?  I take them as prescribed and am under a physician's care.  Unless I have another surgery, I will probably continue to take these drugs.  They are not very strong and I TAKE THEM AS PRESCRIBED.  The reason that pain meds get such a terrible rep is that people take two, three, four times the amount prescribed.  They take them to get high.  These women....I'm sorry, but these women are immature and irresponsible beyond reason.  It's hard to know what they were like before but responsible people don't take drugs and kill people -- people who are high on drugs kill people.  If you have a headache, do you take 10 aspirin?  No, you could really hurt yourself that way.  Every sad story of addiction begins with the addict deciding to up his dosage and continuing to up his/her dosage.  Maybe it's easier to blame the drug.
I think the problem with your reasoning is that  everybody's  physical make-up is different.  Some people are just more prone to addiction, physically.  Not that  there aren't people out there that abuse drugs simply to escape or get high (or low) but there seems to be overwhelming evidence, on this board alone, that sometimes addiction happens under the best of circumstances( doctors approval/guidance,  legitimate reasons for use, ...). The health care industry needs to take a look at people as INDIVIDUALS before they start throwing around such powerful drugs.

  We need someone to do some research to find out a way to do a blood test or something that can determine how one's body will react to  certain drugs instead of just researching how to get the pills on the market as fast as possible,  But who would do such research-I doubt you could make money off of it.  And isn't that what it all boils down to in the end for these drug companies? Money.
 
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February 7, 2008, 10:24 am PST

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When Yvette started to cry and yell at Maria it made me cry too.  I felt so sorry for Maria.  Her sisters would not let her get a word in.  "You made me look bad on national  TV."  No Yvette.  You are not fooling anyone.  Your slurred speech and drugged out expression tells the whole story.  You cannot go out in public without people knowing that you are high.  You most certainly would show up at the wedding of your sister as a spectacle. 

We all put on masks for the world.  We want others to see the good in us and hide the shameful things in our lives.  It was brave to show the world your dark side.  Addictions make the mask harder to keep up.  Your problems are as clear as the nose on your face.  Maria did not cause your problems.  Your mother did not cause your problems.  Your children did not cause your problems.  They are the excuse you use to continue to live this existence.  We all have stress in our lives.  We all become overwhelmed.  They are other ways to cope.  I hope that you will get the help that you need for your children's sake. 
 
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February 7, 2008, 10:38 am PST

pain meds necessary

I think that if you need pain meds for a medical condition there is nothing wrong with being addicted.  I have a morphine pump that I have been on for five years and it has saved my life.  I  could not function like a normal person before, the pain consumed me.  
 
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February 7, 2008, 10:39 am PST

Dr. Phil chastised a woman for having a DISEASE????

Yesterday Dr. Phil said to a drug addict, "look what your drug abuse is doing to your children. Look what you're doing to your FAMILY. Do you realize that your drug abuse is tearing your family apart? Do you realize that your drug abuse is destroying  your CHILDREN? Do you even care? You've got to knock this off."

Now, for those of you who incorrectly believe drug and alcohol abuse to be a disease, I ask you to replace the words drug abuse with the word cancer and reread the sentence. This should show you just how absurd your misconception is.

 

It would sound like this: "...look what your cancer is doing to your children. Look what what you're doing to your FAMILY. Do you realize that your cancer is tearing your family apart? Do you realize that your cancer is destroying your CHILDREN? Do you even care? You've go to knock this off."

If drug abuse is a disease, how on earth does he justify talking to this woman this way? It makes no sense. Because it's not a disease. It's a choice in behavior.

 

 
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