Topic : A Barack and McCain...

I'm with you on that ! Tell it like it is Dr. Phil could do wonders for this country!

 

I'd rather have a war hero run the country than someone with NO experience that sympathizes with the likes of Rev. Wright and terrorist groups.  I'm young, college educated, and well-read, everything you'd think a liberal would be, except I don't trust the media to give me facts, but slants, lies and half-truths.  The reason the war has lasted as long as it has is because of Iran funding Shiite terrorists against US troops in Iraq, funding Lebanese Hizbollah to attack Beirut, with Syria's help.  McCain has the ballz to keep Iran in line.  Obama would probably leave them to devise another attack on America, and then we have another war...but not under his presidency.  I'd rather NOT vote a police state into power, thank you, I like my freedom.  Oh, and News Flash, those poor people you're talking about now are going to still be poor, in fact probably worse off under a Dem.

 

Technically, I'd rather vote for another candidate, Ron Paul or Chuck Baldwin (of the Constitution Party), not Barr, though.  I want to be clear in keeping Obama OUT of the White House, by voting for the candidate most likely to draw the majority of the Conservative vote.  If it were up to me, the Democrat Party wouldn't exist, instead, you'd have Republicans and Independants (Green Party, Constitution Party, and the ilk). 

  Well I would just love to know what ya'll think about Oprah backing obama and her involvement in this new age church thing ?

 

Barrack Obama had a volatile reaction to the Tenessee GOP ad, that played the clip of Michelle saying that "This is the first time I've been proud to be an American"  in between clips of citizens of Tennessee describing why they are proud to be Americans. 

 

"Obama said his wife “loves this country. For them to try to distort or to play snippets of her remarks in ways that are unflattering to her is, I think, just low class. I think that most of the American people would think that as well.”"

 

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/19/obama-to-tennessee-gop-my-wife-is-off-limits/comment-page-46/

 

The truth is, Michelle said what she did in a PUBLIC arena.  She openly campaigns and orates in public on her husband's behalf.   So why is what she says exempt from criticism?  How is it "low class" to remind Michelle why America is great and to actually THINK before she speaks?  What she says is fair game, and if Obama's this much of a crybaby now, how is he going to react to criticism, should he become Commander in Chief? 

 

Second, why is Obama so arrogant as to tell Americans what to think?  His statement attacks criticial thinkers in the "groupthink" style of the socialist tale "1984".  Why is any criticism of him interpreted by the media as either A) Racist, or B) a smear campaign (that phrase is getting old, btw!)?  If Obama can be critical of the pharmaceutical and insurance companies that fund his own campaign, then why can't Americans be critical of this so-called unifier? 

 

Third, his "my wife is off limits" argument is profoundly hypocritical, considering his campaign attacked Cindy McCain regarding her tax returns.

 

"Even as Obama declared his wife off-limits, the Democratic National Committee issued a release calling for Cindy McCain to release her tax returns. The wife of the presumptive GOP nominee and a beer distribution company heiress has filed her taxes separately from her husband for the entirety of their marriage."

 

 

As further proof that the inmates are running the asylum, the United Nations is currently conducting an investigation into racism in the Obama campaign.  Because Obama could become the first black president and the mere fact that America has a history of slavery and segregation. 

 

Meanwhile they ignore ethnic cleansing and espouse starvation and economic collapse through global warming initiatives.  What about Iran and North Korea?  They violate human rights practically on a minute by minute basis.  Unbelievable. 

It seems that everyone thinks it is only Bush is totally to blame for the gas prices, the loss of jobs, the bad economy but hasn't it been since the democrates took over the senate that most of our ecomony problems came to head fast?  Gas prices are a good example, from 2000 through 2005 average gas prices went up around $1 per gallon, in 2000 it was$1.52.3 per gallon average for the USA, in 2005 it was $2.31.4.  That was 5 years of Bush and Cheney with republicians in the senate.  In year 2006 when Democates took over senate, gas prices averaged $2.61.8 for the USA and by 2007 it was up to $2.84.3 (taken from the EIA website).   Now it is pushing $4.00 per gallon and the year isn't even half over yet. 

 I agree that things need to change in our country, but we need to watch who we are voting in from the president to the senate and house and down to the city and county officials.  I don't think any of the canidates are very promising and while I am a registered Democrat, I will not vote that way until they give us someone worth voting for.  Clinton and Obama are worse then 1st graders with their bickering back and forth. I figure if they can't get votes on what they stand for without cutting the other down, they aren't worth voting for.  

 I want to know what they would do if we have another terrorist act against the USA like 9-11.  What steps will they take to make sure our borders are safe, what steps will they take to bring down the gas prices without shutting down our oil fields and refineries which hurt Wyoming and other states so much when Carter put a cap on the gas prices?  I want to know what they are going to do to make health care more affordable.  When a sleep study test costs more then my first C section did in 1981, something isn't right.  When Stress tests cause more stress with the bill then on the tread mill, something isn't right.  Insurance companies aren't much better, when it costs a single woman in her 50's $1000 a month for health insurance with a high deductable, it isn't surprising that young adults can't afford to have health insurance.  When we are putting more money into feeding and health costs for other countries while our own children and young adults and seniors are starving and not going into the doctor something is wrong.  While taxes, gas, groceries and everything else is going up and our seniors on a fixed income with retirement (if they are lucky to have it) and social security isn't getting a "cost of living" raise, something isn't right.  When our high government officials both state and federal make more money then most people see in a year and demand a cost of living raise, something isn't right.  Give me a canidate who will be able to tell me what steps they will take to fix these problems without raising taxes, then that canidate will have my vote.

 

Here's a little list of Obama's lies so far:

 

• Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965..
• My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya.. It is the first widespread violence in decades..
• I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office..
• I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE..
• Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn't write it,introduce it, change it, or create it..
• I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens.. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books..
•  Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel..
• I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama..
•  I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won't wear a flag pin and you don't put your hand over your heart during the Anthem..
• Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn't Support - LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quarter of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart..
• I Barely Know Rezko - Only 5 Billed Hours - LIAR, you have known him for 17 years, and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he was proven to be under investigation.. Despite this, you divided your property and had them take off $300K before the mortgage problems started.. Then Rezko's wife buys the lot beside it that you can't afford, saving you $625,000..
• I Disagree With My Church All The Time - LIAR, you still have yet to repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message - hatred and revenge.. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church that you so terribly disagree with.. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK - that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama..
  

For all those reasons, I just can't trust BO (fitting initials, IMHO) with the position of POTUS.  Now, he wants to talk to Ahmadinejad, the leader of Iran, who denies the Holocaust, wants to exterminate the Jews in Israel, and has been building nuclear weapons.  Barrack is basically an appeaser, which, God help the US if he Forrest Gumps his way into the presidency.

 

" I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won't wear a flag pin and you don't put your hand over your heart during the Anthem.."

I'm hella patriotic and I wouldn't do either of those things. I also don't say the pledge and I haven't since I was a teenager (it was WELL before I was an atheist btw.)

Sorry, these things seem weak to me...

 

Hi Penny,

 

You're not running for POTUS, though.  The candidate for President of a country should at least show a modicum of patriotism especially since they're in the public eye, IMHO.  What harm could it do to wear a pin and say the pledge?  Why is preservation of our national heritage a bad thing?  He's running for leader of the free world, and while that one point may be the weakest link in the chain, it's still fairly significant.  It's a point of morale or lack thereof if the potential Commander in Chief doesn't bother to put his hand over his heart, wear a flag pin, or say the pledge.  What message does that convey to the troops?  They fight for our freedom and the potential POTUS doesn't even make an effort to show respect for what they lay their lives down for?

 

It's one in a long, long, long list of drawbacks to this candidate, and I hope you use it as a pro/con list in the back of your mind to weigh who you want to vote for.  You probably have already made up your mind, the election is 5 months away, but  consider it anyway.

 

Do all of these seem weak to you, or just the "I won't wear a pin"  point?  I think they all paint a mural that I'm not satisfied with, especially point #2, and #3, and the last two.

 

Please de-construct the arg's or show me their weaknesses- you've already said that not showing patriotism isn't necessarily an indicator of patriotism.  But that's just icing on the cake to me.