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(Original Air Date: 02/13/08) When people think of sexual predators, they often envision a pervert wearing a trench coat walking the streets. But research shows that a family friend, helper or relative is often the person who victimizes innocent children. Heidi was sexually molested by her stepfather, John, for 12 years. Her mother, Susan, knew it was happening because she walked in on an attack when Heidi was 9, but she stayed with her husband for years after, even as the molestation continued. When Dr. Phil confronts Susan, will she apologize to her daughter? After two decades and years of mental anguish, will Heidi receive answers from her mother? The sparks fly as mother and daughter go head to head. Will they heal their wounds and reunite? Then, the man who Heidi accused of molesting her joins the show. Find out what he reveals and why Dr. Phil doesn't believe him. And, why does Heidi say she has more respect for her abuser than her mother? The twists and turns in this story will shock you. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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February 13, 2008, 7:04 am PST

02/13 Behind Closed Doors

i hope heidi doesn't allow this child molester near her kids.  i'm worried because she said she forgives him.  i've seen it before where people "forgive" their molester and then allow their children near the bad guy!

 
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February 13, 2008, 7:18 am PST

I don't buy it for a second

When the mother says 'I was a baby - I was only 27', that's a load of bollocks.  I'm 26 myself and I knew better than her ten years ago.

She has no excuses.  Neither does the step-father.
 
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February 13, 2008, 7:20 am PST

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My mom never walked in, but I told her to tell him to leave me alone at night, or just  the fact that I couldn't stand to be in the same room with him, you would think she would think about  it, but alas, she was intoxicated most of the time and was brutally physically abused by him often.  I think he would get mad at her and then come and take it out on me.  At 8 it started by him coming in my room ( I can still remember  his shadow in my room) and made me masturbate him and ejaculated in my hand, while cover my mouth so I was quiet.  This and other things happened several times a week and I just dint want to remember what didn't happen.  I used to be found sleeping in the car, under tables in closets, and just trying to hide.  He convinced my family I had ghosts.  Foolishness. 
One night everyone was out partying and I was home and he came home drunk and walked into my room brazenly and loudly naked and climbed on top of me to rape me.  I fought him off with razor blades and kicked the wall when I heard my brother come home.  He came in with a bat and tried to to hit him but didn't hurt him just got him out of there....The next day I ran away for 3 days and my brother told my mom.  She made me confront him to get him to admit it...'get the f*****g s*** out of here'  is what he said...he was back in the house in 4 days...he continued to spy on me in the bathroom and leave pornography in my room and brush against me.  I moved out at 14, then came home for a few months, then moved out again at 15.  Only after he ran off with my oldest brothers wife at their wedding reception, did my mother want to press charges.  (this was 4 years later).  Her and I spoke rarely and I didn't see her for `12 years, then she got sick and I was with her when she passed of lung cancer.  He died a decade or so earlier of a heart attack at 35.  Karma is a bitch. 
I struggle everyday with my self esteem and have serious abandonment issues.  I cant trust anyone and am jealous beyond belief.  Even though I know these feelings are irrational, but I am unable to control them...IT is scary and if my husband weren't so wonderful , he would have left by now.  I also have great difficulty being a confident parent!.    I would protect my child to the end unlike my mother.  The mother on the show should be ashamed.  Such things do ruin a person.   Life is truly difficult after such trauma, rape or no rape it is awful.  I have had people say   'well you weren't raped, it couldn't have been that bad'.  Physical, emotional, sexual and neglectful abuse create a truly difficult life.  I hope that every person this has happened to continues to fight and get thru their days and know that they are stars.  That it wasn't our fault.  That we can trust again.  
 
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February 13, 2008, 7:37 am PST

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When I told my mother that her brother had molested me when I was 5, she was hurt, and hurt for me, and she was angry, not with me, with him.  This mother on todays show acts like she is angry at her daughter.  My mother felt helpless, because she could do nothing - i told her when I was 37.  Heidi deserves better.  She needs to let go of her mother because her mother will never take responsibility for the damage she did to her.  If she keeps hanging on to the hope that her mother will do the right thing, she will only continue to be disappointed and hurt.  Her self worth and who she is should not be based on her mother and how she abandoned her when she needed her most.  She deserved to be loved and protected when that happened to her.  My hope is that Heidi can finally find peace.
 
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February 13, 2008, 7:37 am PST

27

The mother said she was 27 when she discovered this was going on and was too young to deal with it appropriately.  This bothers me because I am 27 and I am certain that I would not handle this situation like she did.  She is simply making excuses for herself. 
 
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February 13, 2008, 7:54 am PST

How could she?

I just don't get how a mother could allow her daughter to be sexually abused over and over.  How does that woman sleep at night?  I think the worst is her lack of remorse now that her daughter is grown. 
 
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February 13, 2008, 7:55 am PST

My story is different

Unlike all of the messages I've read, my situation is different.  I was not abused as a child so I can't relate to the stories being told here.  What has happened in my situation is that my daughter (21 yrs old) has been with this guy for about 6-7 years.  He was a really nice guy.  I liked him and thought this is a guy I would want my daughter to be with.  He put her way up on a pedestal & treated(s) her as a princess.  Or so we thought.  A year ago he was convicted (not by jury but by pleading) of criminal sexual conduct in the 1st & 2nd degree of a minor (8-10).  This happened when he was 14-16, he is now 23.  He spent 9 months in the county jail.  They are engaged to be married, much to my dismay.  I have tried to talk to my daughter about this, even tried showing her the transcipt of the police interview with him where he admits to it and not just one time, but anywhere from 2-4 dozen times with this one child.  She will not believe any of it.  Since I tried to show her the transcript, she has alienated her entire family, not just me.  Is there anyone out there that has had a similar experience?  If so,  what did you do, how did you cope?  Needless to say this has tore me up knowing that i may never have my daughter back in my life.  I have tried to reach out to her numerous times to try and mend our relationship, but she won't try.  We live about 5 miles apart.  I have come to terms with the fact that I have to accept a life without her and move on with mine.  I hope this guy is happy with himself in succeeding in taking my daughter away from her family.  Everyone tells me (friends, family, professionals) that she will be back, it's just a matter of time. That's very hard to believe right now.  
 
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February 13, 2008, 7:57 am PST

02/13 Behind Closed Doors

I am outraged with this so called mother! I was a victim of sexual abuse by my grandfather for years, who had also molested my mother, her 3 sisters, the neighbor girl and the list go's on and on. My mother left me with this man and when I found out I was so angry with her, we did not speak for almost 3 years and I would say it took a good 10 years for us to have a good relationship. But there is know way in hell my mother would sit on stage in front of millions and put herself up on a high horse and try to make it out like she was a victim, even though she was. She lives with not only what her father did to her but what she has let happen to her own daughter. The guilt eats at her evey day. I forgave my grandpa and my mother and it was the best thing I could of ever done. I am a survivor! I thank God every day for being molested because it made me who I am today.  I feel so sorry for Hiedi and if i was her i would turn and walk away and never look back at my mother. I honestly think that she thought she was going to come on to the show and make it look like it's all about her and not her daughter, and how dare her for doing that. You will reap what you sow and some day her time is going to come. As for the stepfather, i agree with Dr. Phil 100%. He has other victims, more than we will ever know about and he needs to be put away!!! Oh and one more thing for the so-called mother, don't ever tell your children that there memory is wrong or fuzzy or how ever you said it to her. I can remember like it was just yesterday and I was 4 years old and noone is ever gonna tell me you can't remember that far back or your not remembering right. BULLCRAP!  TO anyone out there that has been a victim of sexual abuse, like I said I am a survivor, I am living a very free and happy life. It's something I will never be able to forget and it will always be with me but I look at it this way, if I live in misery for the rest of my life, then he has won, he has stripped me of everything. Go on with your life and be happy and tell others of your story, you'll be amazed at how many people you can help and how it will help heal yourself.
 
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February 13, 2008, 8:03 am PST

It is not only your generagtion

I too was molested from approximately age 9-10 by my real brother for years! I wont get graphic but no one seemed to heed my pleas for help. Wether I cried aloud to get attention drawn to my brother to get caught in the act (NO ONE would ever beleive me if I told), or wether I made loud noises to wake anyone up! My older sister slept in the top bunk and states she never saw a thing. How could she sleep through it when my father (sperm donor) would wake up downstairs and tell me to be quiet. I was threatend for years. I moved with my real father when I was approx. 8 years old. So "this" family was new to me. I was afraid to be thrown out. There is lot to this story but never thought to write doctor Phil. My father(sperm donor) molested me on two occasions. Once when I was 15, and then again when I was 16. I told my sperm donor of the molestation by my brother when he was going to let my brother move back into our home after we moved to another state. He and my step mother could not believe it and said they would never let him back in. That was not true a few weeks later he moved in. Yes he attempted to molest me again. I had no bedroom door. Where we lived before "I" bought a dead bolt lock for my bedroom door. He just climed over the partitioned wall or took the molding off of the door to get the door open. Anyways, I am a mother of a 17 year old and a 10 month old and one on the way. I would never let anyone hurt my children. I went through a lot growing up and had to learn the hard way that I am the only one who can control what happens to me. I am a foster parent for this reason. Children need a place to go anmd feel safe. You can not always pick your family. I do not beleive blood is thicker than water. As I stated there is a lot more detail to this story but you ge tthe gist of what I have written. It is amazing how much this happend back in the day. My third grade teacher stated at a visit in 2004 that she should have known with all the signs that I showed. I am 36 years old. To add to this and not to sound terrible and for lack of a better word..., I have always wondered what I  have done to deserve theses things to me. I am not a beautiful person by no means! I have wondered if I have F**** me on my forhead, (SORRY for the wording but this is how I feel). I was also at the young age of approx., 4-5 molested by a friends father. I went to see if she could play and he told me her and her mother went to the store and would be right back and I could wait. I did so. He then locked the door with a chain and attempted to make me give him oral sex. I cried and cried. For some reason he had to use the bathroom and thta is when I got a chair to the door and got the chain off and ran upstairs to my moms apartment. He almost caught me going up the stairs. I remember this vividly! I remember the police coming. However I learned he was never charged due to me not keeping my story straight. Out of everything that has happend this is what bothers me the most! I don't know any 4-5 year old that can tell a story the same way each time much less an adult. I just hope he has not violated anyone else!!! So to those f you out there that have been in this situation just have faith in yourself. You can do whatever you put your mind to. I had / have no family to turn to. If I can overcome and be somewhat successful on my own anyone can! This has been a tearful day (maybe because I am pregnant - hormones) with this story and then hearing the upcoming story of the alcoholic mother. I to ohave that. SHe is the child and I am the adult. She lives a  few days drive away. I am ready to give up on her to.

 
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February 13, 2008, 8:10 am PST

Disgrace to the Uniform

Dr. Phil

  I happened to be in the military in 1983 and served in Germany from 1984-1988 and I know that when a chain of command is notified of an incident as child molestation the chain of command WILL take action and send the family back to the United States but will force the soldier to forfiet all but $100 of thier paycheck to the spouse being sent back to the States.  I have seen this happen in other situations, the chain of commands primary goal is to prorect the family members.  If Hiedi's mother was telling the truth about notifying his chain of command he would have been relieved of his duties as a Military Policeman and put in the stockade until the investigation was complete and with medical evidence to boot he would have been discharged out of the military after serving time in Ft. Levenworth.

   I feel for Hiedi and as a father of 4 children, two being girls, that type of behavior NEVER entered my mind.  If I had found out that one of my children had been molested I would be serving time.

 
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