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(Original Air Date: 02/13/08) When people think of sexual predators, they often envision a pervert wearing a trench coat walking the streets. But research shows that a family friend, helper or relative is often the person who victimizes innocent children. Heidi was sexually molested by her stepfather, John, for 12 years. Her mother, Susan, knew it was happening because she walked in on an attack when Heidi was 9, but she stayed with her husband for years after, even as the molestation continued. When Dr. Phil confronts Susan, will she apologize to her daughter? After two decades and years of mental anguish, will Heidi receive answers from her mother? The sparks fly as mother and daughter go head to head. Will they heal their wounds and reunite? Then, the man who Heidi accused of molesting her joins the show. Find out what he reveals and why Dr. Phil doesn't believe him. And, why does Heidi say she has more respect for her abuser than her mother? The twists and turns in this story will shock you. Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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February 13, 2008, 3:53 pm PST

I want to know

Dr. Phil,

 

please tell me, what is it that makes the mother blame the child?  I too was molested.  It began at age 9,  I didnt even have breasts at the time, how could I have been seducing anyone?  I really need to know how the mother blames the child. What do they say to themselves to actually believe that?

 
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February 13, 2008, 3:53 pm PST

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if  i  had walked in on this i would have grabbed whatever  was handy  and  tried  to kill him and yelling to my child to run, run, run!!  did susan ever ASK her daughter if it was still happening??   and i am sorry 27 is NOT a baby!!  and i surely would like to talk to that chaplin because i think this woman is lying!!!   if i were the daughter i would be finding myself a NEW mother, an older friend, a co-worker, etc.  it sounds as though the grandparents would have done ANYTHING to protect their grandchildren.  as far as the stepfather is concerned the chances of this recurring is almost 100%!!!!!  did the mother and i use the term loosely ask any of the children if anything had happened to them??  and to go cry in the basement and have a pity party and call her best friend to come and comfort her is beyong the pale!!  who comforted the daughter??  may god bless the duaghter!!
 
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February 13, 2008, 3:54 pm PST

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I don't care what time era this happened in, NO mother should ever let their child be harmed in ANY way. As a mother, I don't care if it would cost my own life-- I would be damned if I would let anyone continually abuse one of my kids. All it boils down to was selfishness on her part. She couldn't fathom the thought of supporting four children on her own.... I don't care if she was overseas, I don't care if the military didn't step-up, and I don't care if there were ten children... GET OUT... AND GET THAT CHILD AWAY FROM THE DANGER!!! SHE is the person out of the whole senario that needed to STEP-UP -- where there is a WILL... there IS a way...  nothing short of dying would stop a determined mother when means protecting her child!! To sit and listen to her whine the blues about a mental breakdown.. that she was found in the basement crying... what in God's name does she think that child has had to endure night after night... has she ever stopped to think how many nights this child was curled up in the fetal position praying and screaming for help... aside from the emotional aspect of it all... do you have any idea how it hurts physically?? Everyone is slamming Dr. Phil for coming down on the mother... all I have to say is this woman needs a reality check and needs to come down off of her "poor-poor pity me" stool---she wasn't a victim of any sort.. her child was.. she's sick.. just as sick as the step-father!!

I would die before I allowed someone to molest my children! Being homless would be better than being violated all the time. The abuse may have happened years ago. But, I don't know about others, I live it daily! The pain of the abuse doesn't ever go away! Some nights I relive the nigtmares of the abuse! Abuse is something that changes who you are.

 

Here is an example of how my abuse still affects me 26 years later. I have been married with my husband now for 15 years. There are certain things in the bedroom I WILL NOT DO BECAUSE IT BRINGS BACK MEMORIES. Because of some pervert I have to pay the life sentence of pain. It just angers me when people say that happened so long ago, just let it go.

 

My children are my life and no way in hell would I allow some pervert to harm them. I don't ever want my children to feel the pain I live with!  All I can say, if someone hurt my children they better run and hide because if I find them it won't be pretty!

 
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February 13, 2008, 3:55 pm PST

Dear Dr. Phil

I have been an avid watcher ever since you have been on the air. I have never been so compelled to write as I am right now after watching today's show. I am appalled and cannot believe 'YOU' shook that 'B******S' hand not once but TWICE. You should of had him arrested on the spot, to keep him away from other children. He was disgusting in every sense of the word, and should be held accountable for his actions. As I recall there is no statue of limitations on sexual abuse on a child and want you to report him to stop the spread of this terrible problem with our children. Myself being the father of three girls would kill the b*****d and spend the rest of my life behind bars, if someone touched my daughter that way. HE NEEDS TO BE OFF THE STREETS NOW !!!
 
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February 13, 2008, 3:56 pm PST

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That woman didnt say anything about feeling liek she wanted to run away to protect her child,,nooo..she played the victum all the way , just as i suspect you do in your life as well.

 I was raised in the miltary and I lived in Germany about the same time as they did. Let me tell ya, there isnt a single person on an army base that dont know that you can go to the American Conselite(sp) and they will help you. not to mention there are shelters in every dang country!

 As for raisen kids in the 80's? Not only did I take my own kids out of thier household because my ex was doing meth but I also raised 4 other kids that came from abusive households all by myself with no help from anybody..guess what ? its called WORKING!!! There is no way on earth that i would ever let somebody hurt my kids or any kid that happens to need help

 

Stop playing the victum , own up to your own down fallings and your part in the harm you have caused others and find happiness!!

 

Blessed Be

 Terri

ok just so i can be sure your responding to the same woman i responded to right?? Because this could not possibly be a responce to what i wrote...????

~Nixi

 
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February 13, 2008, 3:57 pm PST

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Insanity.  Your response is sad given the years you incinuate.

 

The 25 1/2 year old has better perspective than you; may she never lose it.  Never, NEVER do you let ANYONE for ANY reason stay near your children after abuse is known.  There isn't a reason.  As said on the show, walk across the ocean to get away if necessary.  There are ways out.  There were ways out then.  It's absurd and ignorant to justify it in any other way.  A mother's instinct, at the most basic of all levels, is to protect. 

 

I was alive "in the day" and I was abused and my mother knew (I told her) and she protected HIM and she is still with him and she is not in my life; or the lives of her other four children.  As they say, you reap what you sew.

As I thought about my response to you, you are right.  My problem with the show and NOT you, is that Dr Phil always says you cannot change what you don't acknowlege.  The mother clearly made a choice in this situation, but who are we to judge what she did? Unless you were there in that situation, you can't say. Dr Phil as a professional should know that. Nothing occurs in a "bubble"  My point was that as you experience the ugliness that occurs in the world, we should attempt to make it better and not male it worse by judging anyone.  If I offended, I apologize.
 
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February 13, 2008, 3:57 pm PST

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(((BIG HUGS TO YOU))) 
 Thank you sweetheart. I needed that! Intense show. I hope he gets that molestor! Deal or no deal, get that jerk!!!
 
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February 13, 2008, 3:58 pm PST

Help the children

I have watched other episodes of child molestation and each time my stomach turns.  This show in particular makes me wish that I was there to subject this woman to the mental and emotional anguish that was granted to her daughter.

 

I too was molested by my maternal grandfather when I was about 5 years old and I don't know for sure how long it continued., maybe a year or so.   I was molested most of the time along side another cousin.  He was caught by my grandmother walking in on him and as far as my mind can recall, nothing was done. 

 

I am now 33 years old and throughout the years have never really got any answers from my mother, who was also molested by him, or from any of my 4 aunts or 1 uncle.  My grandmother did not leave him and life was continued as if nothing happened.

 

A few years ago, I finally got some answers from one aunt who told me that nothing was ever done because another aunt and my uncle were persuing careers in law enforcement and this would greatly hinder their chances for that.  So for years it was simply ignored and not talked about.  Us cousins would every so often talk about it just as a pressure release.

 

Up until recently, no one in the family every apologized for not protecting me and my cousins when it was known that he was molesting many many years before me.  Other aunts were molested and they are much older than my mother.

 

In August of 2005, during a road trip to Austin TX in which I was taking my grandparents to visit my mother, my grandfather began fondling himself while in the front seat of my car two hours away from our destination.  So for the last two hours of the trip, he continued to fondle himself and even at one point, I recall seeing his penis sticking out the pant leg of his shorts.

 

Once again, I told my mother about being victimized AGAIN and subsequently in December of 2005, my grandfather put a loaded gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger.  In my mind, the Lord above finished what my family could not.

 

I have forgiven my grandfather again and have since the first time it happened.  My family on the other hand, I have days of love, days of disgust, days of loathing, days of pity.  The shock waves of his suicide are still going on.  Every single one of my aunts, my uncle, and my grandmother all have such deep seeded issues that the family is in pieces yet know one will admit it.  Ironically, my grandfather was what was holding the family in cohesiveness.  Now everyone has retreated to their own corners and talk about each other, point fingers all the while self-medicating with pills, alcohol, food, gambling, work, etc.

 

At the funeral I finally got an apology amid the crying and fumbling just prior to the service.  Since then, nothing.  No one has ever reached out to me to see how I am doing and what do I need to heal, but then again, they never really have.  It has all been about who can out do who and what can be shown off next.

 

I will continue to heal, evolve, change, hurt but I don’t want to.  I do not know how to “let the past go”.  I am perpetually ashamed for anything I have ever done wrong.  I feel guilty most of the time for no reason whatsoever.  I have horrid body and self image and have an underlying layer of depression that taints everything in my life that might be good or bring me joy.  I no longer know how to be happy or what true joy feels like.  I am not able to “live in the present” for fear of the future and because I spend too much time in the past.

 

My hope is that someone reading this will take heed and protect any child that you know is being molested or has been molested.  They need help because they don’t know how to help ourselves because of fear and suppression.  If you knowingly turn the other cheek to a hurting child, SHAME SHAME SHAME on you!!!!!  Too much is at risk for  your ignorance and stupidity.

 

With two small children of my own, you better believe I am watching worse than a hawk.  I often daydream of locking away any molesting or enabler that I see into a small unknown room and subjecting them to tortures of every imaginable kind until I felt better, then I would do ten times longer.  I keep people at bay and often wonder about vans I see driving down the freeway, is there a helpless child inside?  I cry almost any quiet time I have because I wonder about what is happening to poor helpless children of all ages right at that second.  It turns my stomach and makes me physically ill.  I don’t know what drives a person to assume the right to violate anyone else for any reason, but those who stand by and knowingly let it happen should be condemned.  Maybe one day, I will be able to live free and happy, but it’s not today.

 

I pray A LOT and just hope for the well being of someone else, all the while sidelining my own.  I am in therapy for PTSD from the military and this is just another issue I have to deal with.  I have been in therapy for many years and have yet to get to the root of my agony and how to deal with it.  My family certainly cannot help me as they cannot even help themselves.  I am sending out a cry for help not only for myself but for every child that does not have voice- DO SOMETHING TO STOP THE MOLESTATION AND PRAY THAT THOSE WHO DO NOTHING WILL ONLY HAVE ETERNITY IN HELL TO DEAL WITH BECAUSE THESE CHILDREN HAVE FAR WORSE WAITING FOR HELP.

 
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February 13, 2008, 3:59 pm PST

Sick to the core

First, the fact that this happened, and happens every minute of every day, makes me sick to my very core. This show is essential for the American public to watch. We forget about the thousands of abused and at risk children as we go about our business.

Second, I agree that Dr. Phil needs to notify law enforcement in the area the man lives...once a pediophile, always a pediophile. He admitted to the crime, so his right to privacy is revoked.He even continues to talk like a predator by stating the other child was curious for his excuse in abusing her.

Third, there is a problem in the military about turning a blind eye. If a family member goes for help, the word spreads like wildfire. Military personnel are rarely given the help they need, instead their careers are over. So, secrets continue out of fear. 

Finally, the entire family is probably in need of psycological help. The dynamics between each family member and how they relate to their environment is more than likely seriously damaged. Although, I  must add, with all the information about child sexual abuse available, it's very hard for me to feel much more than anger at the mother for not taking the inscentive to educate herself over the last 20 years on this issue--she doesn't live in a vacuume. But, then, she appears to be part of the problem, not the solution. Hopefully, that changes. So far, her choices are about her and not her children, no matter how she tries to spin it.

 

 
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February 13, 2008, 3:59 pm PST

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It was my father.  I told my mother when I was 9.  She said to "Let daddy touch you because that's how he shows he loves you."  He had a urine fetish, and gave me a vaginal infection by performing oral sex on me when I 11, and he held me down while she put the medicine in with a vaginal plunger.  My pediatrician must have been curious, but asked no questions.  When I told her he had perfomred oral sex on me (18 months later) I got in very big trouble!!  The entire family (2 adults, 5 kids) hated my guts, no one supported me.  He would hit me or throw cold water on me when I didn't let him molest me.  Of course I had a drug problem and became a slut.  Once when he knew I was on drugs he asked me to pee in a bottle so he could drink it and see if he got high.  I said no.  I thought it was only a matter of time before he raped me, so I married young -- to an abusive drunk.  Go figure.  My husband forbid me to get therapy, continue my eduation, take karate lessons or hold a job.  Finally, after 23 years, I left him.  I'm totally broke but it was worth it.   These days I do not speak to my mother, who pretends to be even crazier than she is.  But I'm still trying to get my dad to like me.  By the way, he tried to go after my daughter when she was just 3.  He would give her candy and tell her not to tell me, but she always did.  I don't know if he went after anyone else, but I know he is in his late 70's, and got very religious.  I'd like to think I am okay now, but 5 years after the divorce I'm still pushing love away and underemployed.

I am so sorry! I thought it was bad enough for my mother to call me a liar when I turned my abuser in. I couldn't imagin your mother watching and participating in it!

 

I am so glad you have stood up to take control of your life! my heart goes out to you!

 
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