Topic : 07/21 Lies and Betrayal

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Created on : Friday, February 08, 2008, 12:23:31 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/14/08) When you get married, you look forward to a life filled with love, happiness and security. But what do you do if you find out your spouse has been telling you lies and is someone completely different than the person you thought you knew? Elizabeth says her husband of three years, Matt, is a pathological liar, a con man and an alcoholic. She says he has lied about everything from what he does for a living to dying of cancer so that she would marry him. Matt says Elizabeth is a sociopath, and he accuses her of molesting her 12-year-old son. When Dr. Phil interrogates them with tough questions, will the truth come out? In an effort to sift through the mudslinging and get to the truth, Matt and Elizabeth agree to take a lie detector test. One of the two was deceitful in answering every question. Find out who. Next, hear from Randy and Rhonda, a couple who took Matt in and are caring for him because they believe he may be living the last phase of his life. Will Matt's shocking statements change their view of him? Dr. Phil has a strong warning for this couple. Then, Matt and Elizabeth are currently separated and negotiating custody of their two young daughters. See the argument that ensues outside the courthouse when Elizabeth accuses Matt of sleeping in the same bed with Rhonda. And, what shocking statement does Matt make about his daughters? Join the discussion.

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April 8, 2008, 4:49 pm PDT

02/14 Lies and Betrayal

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Alcoholics and drug addicts

I was married to an alcoholic. I do not understand why you always say they have a disease.

This is an addiction (habbit) Because. most time if that person goes to rehap they can go for the rest of their life and not drink or take drugs. If this was a disease they would not be able to do that.

 

I remember many years ago the medical field started to call these addictions, diseases so the insurance companies would pay for them if it was a disease, but not an addition.

 

So call a spade a spade. Don't let these people  off that easy. It is an addition..

 

Nancy Bentsen

 





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I would suggest you do a little more research
 
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May 6, 2008, 8:34 pm PDT

congrats dr phil

We just got this show today in Australia and I have to take my hat off to Dr Phil, I have never seen such a persistent lying manipulator handled so well.  Dr Phil I would love to see you interview my mother, I have spent a life time trying to nail gello to a wall so much so that the only way to deal with her is to not deal with her at all anymore, I am estranged from her.  I loved seeing you in action today, well done.
 
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May 6, 2008, 9:45 pm PDT

This man is exactly like my brother

We only just got this episode of Dr Phil today in Australia and,it floored me!The lies are different but,everything else about this man reminds me of my brother.My family and i have been trying to seek help for my brother but,because he sees nothing wrong with himself or his behaviour there is nothing we can do.We are so frustrated as,there is 3 wonderful small children involved in this situation.He and his wife were both liars in their marriage and,through their continuing custody battle for the older 2 children but,with the mother of his youngest it was different.She is a sweet caring placid young woman and,he took advantage of her.He cheated so many times with so many different women,even showing our family members pictures of them and,talking on the phone in front of us with them.When his partner finally left him and the custody battle started he,denied any part in cheating and,because we have confronted him on it he has now disowned the majority of his family.He also lied about his serving in the army.He WAS in the army and got a medical dicharge in 1996 but NEVER served overseas but,he has told people he served in Iraq and,Afghanistan even to the point of killing a young afghani soldier(we have proof he said this in an email to a woman)..When we confront him on this he gets angry and tells us "you don't know what i have seen in the army or what i have been through".He has always been a bit of a "story teller" but,as the years have gone on his lies have gotten worse.We are at a brick wall.We don't know what to do.As this is affecting the children,His older chid who is 8 is starting to lie and make up stories too.His middle child is 7 and still poops in his pants which,i think is due to the mental trauma of it all.His youngest child who is 3 doesnt talk at all..I am writing here in the hope SOMEONE can PLEASE help us to get him help or,help us with different avenues to take or different methods to use to try to protect these children.I love my brother dearly but,i also want to protect his children and,their welfare is of the utmost importance to us all.We went through a very abusive childhood and my brother didn't seek counselling to deal with it .I did so,i am not sure if that is the reason he lies to the extent he does.He seems to be able to get so many women with the stories he tells and this scares me as he,also has unprotected sex with them and,he could contract something too and,he allows his children to know these women and,then when they find out his lies then,they are gone out the kids lives..The authorities here seem to not doing anything because.his lies are so good or because he wont admit he has a problem and seek help..My brother is so much like the man on your show,can manipulate the situation and,lie to cover up lies.Or when the going gets tough he bails or leaves.It breaks our hearts....CAN SOMEONE OR DR PHIL PLEASE HELP ME,HELP OUR FAMILY,HELP MY BROTHER BUT,MOST IMPORTANLTY HELP MY NIECES AND NEPHEW!
 

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May 7, 2008, 4:42 pm PDT

Warmest love from Australia

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Yes your right I should have done investigating before and I didn't. When you fall in love...LOVE IS BLIND. My tears were I never thought he would have said the things he said about our own daughters on National Television but he did. Trust me lessoned learned. Thank you for taking the time and sending in a quote. God Bless You......

Elizabeth, this show just aired in Australia yesterday. Matthew is probably one of the most ill and evil people that I've ever seen. I feel so sorry that this has happened to you. I hope that Randy and Rhonda have woken up to him; how sad that he's taken advantage of their vulnerability to worm his way into their lives. They are his next victims, I'm sure. I cannot believe how sick he is.

 

Try to forgive yourself. I imagine you're really beating yourself up for falling in love with this man, but we all make mistakes. But don't make another mistake and believe that he can be repaired - I fear that he's beyond help, and he's incredibly potentially dangerous. I would act to protect myself as though I assumed he was actively seeking to murder me and the kids if I were you; because unfortunately it wouldn't surprise me if this were true. I would fight him having unsupervised visitation with every fibre of my being. As long as he's walking the streets, I'm afraid that you and the kids are in danger.

 

Surround your beautiful girls with love and extended family. Don't bad-mouth Daddy; perhaps explain that he's just too sick to see them, but always be respectful when referring to him. And get whatever help you need to recover from this great tragedy that has befallen you; you certainly didn't deserve it. I'm so glad that you have your family supporting you; they seemed like they were a great help to you.

 

Warmest love and hugs to you and your daughters. You've gotten out alive; now it's time to keep all three of you alive, and work on rebuilding a new life in which Matthew plays as small a role as possible (within the confines of the law).

 

 

 
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July 19, 2008, 2:16 pm PDT

I'll take him for better but mostly worst.

  
              I will not take up a lot of time writing I would forgive him ONCE!
 Do you understand and if he did it again let me break it down were you
 can understand. His crap would go out side then I would kick his a##
 outside to the curb and never look back. Thank you very much.
 
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July 19, 2008, 3:32 pm PDT

Is it bipolar or something more..

My husband is the same way.

 

He is nothing as he pretended to be before we married.

 

Now 6 years later...and down to my last $$. Yet he is still telling people he is working making all kinds of money.

 

The whole marriage I have only been out of work for a total of 3 months.

He has not worked a total of two..and most of his income was wasted in a bar.

 

 

 
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July 19, 2008, 4:08 pm PDT

He's a sociopath-run, don't walk

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I dont actually  know that  I was married to the same man as wahini, as there are probably thousands of  the same description,  I just thought that IN CASE it  is/was the same guy,  she might recognize some of those particular things.  In my  case, I did try to warn the latest wife,  but,  like all of us,  she didn't believe it,  because she hadn't seen that side of him yet,  and he told her that I was "stalking" him.  Chances are,  waihini is not the person I am thinking of, as I doubt that she would be allowed to watch Dr. Phil, let alone write in.  But I thought.......just in case it is....I need to let her know.     I, personally, had no children with CJ, but he brought three boys to the marriage ,  and  expected me to subjegate my life entirely to them.  If I, for just one minor example, asked them to carry their used dinner plate  to the sink,  they said  I was abusive,  and he backed them,  rather  than me.  Was any of  this apparent  before  we married?   Well, yes, but  I,  foolishly,  thought  it would be different once we were actually family.   I'm not stupid, but  I was too trusting and, obviuosly, gullible.  He's been married now to wahini, or someone like her, for a few years, and I have thought of writing her to let  her know that I know that I understand, but I know that she would not be allowed to pick up the mail. So that is why I made this feeble attempt,  just in case she DID manage to send that message to Dr. Phil.

Your story is pretty much my story.  Besides the trust, betrayal, he also left me holding the bills and losing money I invested in his business (I thought I was being supportive wife).  When  I started questioning him on his lies he started planning his next victim.  Suspected he was cheating, asked him to leave.  In 2 months he was living with another woman-who didn't even know he was married until 3 months later after they were "engaged,"someone told her he was still married (neither of us had filed for divorce)-she decided to "keep" him despite the deception.; I filed for divorce.  He lies that I was abusive with him and children were taken into protective custody,etc.  He had told lies, to ,me, about his previous 2 wives. He's 39 and on his 4th marriage. 

Then I found the books "The Sociopath Next Door" and "Women who love sociopaths" (dumb name, good book.  It should be "Women victimized by sociopaths.")  Also found great website, www.lovefraud.com and started the journey back to myself. It has taken close to a year to get through this and believe in myself again.  I'm not a stupid woman, but I was vulnerable, too trusting, married too soon (wihin 10 months of meeting him, at his insistence), didn't check his background, and ignored all the "red flags."  Run, don't walk.  Sociopaths don't change.

 
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July 19, 2008, 5:40 pm PDT

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I would be very surprised to find out that this couple is still together. And I hope the other couple who took the husband into thier home and even let him sleep in thier bed (with them) has come to thier senses.
 
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July 20, 2008, 7:02 am PDT

07/21 Lies and Betrayal

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If Matt is indeed a pathological liar, does that mean he could possibly pass the lie detector test and still be lying? I mean, if he always lies, maybe he has come to believe himself to be telling the truth.

I feel sorry for Elizabeth too. I too was a victim of meeting someone who turned out to be everything he made himself out to be. In results to that I have lost my home and finally got away from all the mental abuse he put me through. Right now I face foreclosure because of the love is blind type of crap.Whe the threat of someone going to kill you if they don't get their own way is a very strong clue to get ta hell out of there. So I packed up my son and my dog and got out of there. I still know he is using drugs because he don't pay his bills when this is going on. It is a long complicated situtation and if there was anything I could do to finally stop him I would do it. I only pray for him. That is about all I can do. Don't let the lies catch up with you Elizabeth. Always stay one step ahead of them. Once you are with someone that long you learn what their next step is before they even do lol. I am having to start all over again and have great friends so we are not totally homeless. I am just losing a home and my son had to start in a new school in his senior year. My son was not happy but he is safe from all that abuse. I will pray for you too elizabeth. Being with people like that is not ever easy to deal with. Take Care and God Bless Sassyrm

 
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July 20, 2008, 8:22 am PDT

wow...

I have not seen this show, but did read all the transcripts, and wow.. Now, one of three things will happen, he will either "start to get it right" and come clean. Or he will resort in getting even with all, which is a very scary scenario...remember Scott Peterson (same personality disorder as this fella). Or 3. He will leave the scene and continue his scam in new waters. God Bless his wife, children and his Mother, as they need it.

 

We are seeing more and more of these types.. Be careful who you get close to, do your homework!

 

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