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Topic : 07/21 Lies and Betrayal

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Created on : Friday, February 08, 2008, 12:23:31 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/14/08) When you get married, you look forward to a life filled with love, happiness and security. But what do you do if you find out your spouse has been telling you lies and is someone completely different than the person you thought you knew? Elizabeth says her husband of three years, Matt, is a pathological liar, a con man and an alcoholic. She says he has lied about everything from what he does for a living to dying of cancer so that she would marry him. Matt says Elizabeth is a sociopath, and he accuses her of molesting her 12-year-old son. When Dr. Phil interrogates them with tough questions, will the truth come out? In an effort to sift through the mudslinging and get to the truth, Matt and Elizabeth agree to take a lie detector test. One of the two was deceitful in answering every question. Find out who. Next, hear from Randy and Rhonda, a couple who took Matt in and are caring for him because they believe he may be living the last phase of his life. Will Matt's shocking statements change their view of him? Dr. Phil has a strong warning for this couple. Then, Matt and Elizabeth are currently separated and negotiating custody of their two young daughters. See the argument that ensues outside the courthouse when Elizabeth accuses Matt of sleeping in the same bed with Rhonda. And, what shocking statement does Matt make about his daughters? Join the discussion.

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February 14, 2008, 7:18 pm PST

What a creep!!

That guy Matt is one of the worst ass_____ I've ever seen on Dr. Phil! He couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it. He would be doing his wife and daughters a favor by staying out of their lives. I hope some day she will meet a good and caring man who will treat her and her daughters well.
 
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February 14, 2008, 7:20 pm PST

02/14 Lies and Betrayal

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Been watching the show and need to say this....tried biting my tongue and all it did was hurt and make me more frustrated!

 

Matt is trying to portray himself as a doctor, yet he has no medical education "he is willing to reveal" because he doesn't want his wife to know where he went, yet he was willing to lie about accreditation for the school he did want to acknowledge. (Wayne State - never reg in Med school)

 

He says, call my lawyer and ask him if  this and that...lets go to the million dollar home in Boca Rotan and yet I forgot the key so you have to sleep in the car??? What the hell???

 

He claims that he is dying of cancer and convinces a couple that lost a child to "take him in" and in return he will give them his children?

 

Then in the end he says "his children are dead to him" because he doesn't want to deal with this anymore? Those children are so much better off w/out him!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I cannot tell you how much I despise this man and I just pray that the family that took him in have closed the door on his ass before he even had a chance to get himself or his stuff out.

 

Unbelievable............

AMEN!!!!
 
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February 14, 2008, 7:21 pm PST

02/14 Lies and Betrayal

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BTW this man gave his wife the greatest gift ever!! HE actually appeared on the show. This can be entered into evidence and used against him if needed.
a flippen men!!!!!!!!
 
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February 14, 2008, 7:23 pm PST

Sure he will make father of the year

How do you start a relationship on lies? Shame on both of them. Then to bring children into that is unthinkable. She needs to get as far away as possible. The SAD part of this is the children's rights. Even if their father is a piece of --------- they still have the right to know him and make up their own minds about him. As long as he is not harming them that is. For him to say he is through with them and they are DEAD to him That is unthinkable, these poor kids. Maybe they are better off without him. Maybe someday he will change and be the person they need as a father, It is just unbelievable how Any parent can do that to their own children. She is definitely better off without him and I hope she can find someone who will be truthful to her, love her and her children, Good Luck.
 
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February 14, 2008, 7:23 pm PST

Dangerous!

Matt is a DANGEROUS man.  He should be watched closely.
 
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February 14, 2008, 7:26 pm PST

Today's show

He seemed like a jerk to me.
 
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February 14, 2008, 7:31 pm PST

RUN, RUN, RUN

Elizabeth, please leave him and do not  let your children have any contact with him. Change your phone number, locks, banks, move to another city if you have to. Do not let him pay child support in exchange for visitation. You can get help financially in many places...He is very unstable and definately a time bomb. Please run..take your children and live a safe, happy life without him. Do not believe any of his lies that he will change, or in the future that he has changed. He will always be trouble. You are a young, beautiful, caring lady / mother with your whole life ahead of you for you and your children.  You need to redeem your self-esteem as he has manipulated you far too long. Get counselling or pick up some self help books. You are stronger than you think. You lived with the likes of him...you can get through this. Turn to your mom and stepdad and any other caring family members for support. Get a peace bond against him for you and your children if at all possible. And have no contact with him. I believe there wouldn't be a judge around that would give him visitation rights. Good Luck....you are strong and will be far better off without him. Your children are too precious to have anything to do with him..He is not worthy of your or their affections. Please ...get rid of him asap.  Good luck...and BE STRONG !!!!
 
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February 14, 2008, 7:32 pm PST

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What I don't understand is why she started crying at the end when he was promising to let her have the children. If a man like that was the father of my daughters, I would pack up my kids so fast so he would NEVER be able to find us! But more than anything, my heart goes out to those innocent children who will apparently never know what it is to be unconditionally loved by their father. Heart breaking.
Amy she was probably crying for the loss. Sure in her heart of hearts she knows he is a lying scum but he just cemented all the things she was dreading. It is hard to think that yoru childs fater thinks so little of them that he says they are dead to him. She will one day thank God for this.
 
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February 14, 2008, 7:37 pm PST

You asked....

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I feel touched after watching tonights episode of Dr. Phil.  I can relate to this story more than many can understand and not to undermind anybody who's encountered "similar" circumstances but unless you've lived the agony of the unknown and learning that you've been living w/ somebody you don't even know... than it's truely almost impossible to completely understand. 

From the monetary worthiness lies, to the health related lies (I'm dying of cancer) to the attempts at taking the children away for falsified reasons, I've been there and unfortunately continue to live it 4 years after the separation. 

My life of this hell began 12 years ago.  It began w/ a relationship w/ a man who I met at a very vulnerable stage in my life.  A single mom, 22 years old w/ a 3 year old daughter is what I was.  He was a successful "engineer" (NOT REALLY) who offered financial stability and a life that was not available to my daughter and myself in that day.  The lies began immediately; however, overlooked for the sake of the aforementioned reasons... house, stability... etc.  Throughout the next 8 years of being w/ this man, my daughter and I, as well as the 2 children we had together endured the following:

1.  Physical abuse (me) - extensive
2.  Mental badgering (made to feel worthless)
3.  Financial devastation - mulit-million $ bankruptcy (the kids and I lost our lives as we knew them due to his deceit)
4.  Infidelity (many .. many woman)
5.  Defamation of character (false allegations) brought against myself and my family members for exposing the children to sexual abuse and them being in grave danger of being sexually abused.  PROVEN FALSE through the state of Michgan.
6.  LIES... AFTER LIES... AFTER LIES...

This man was diagnosed as bi-polar; however still does not admit to his illness....

How do we as woman TRUELY protect ourselves from this abuse?... even after the fact.

I REALLY WANTED TO EXPRESS TO TODAY'S MOTHER THAT IT WILL GET BETTER AND FIGHT TO THE BITTER END FOR YOUR KIDS.  IF HE STATES THE KIDS ARE DEAD TO HIM.... USE THAT AGAINST HIM AND DO ALL RESEARCH NECESSARY TO PROVE THAT HE IS NOT A WORTHY FATHER.  YOU WILL PREVAIL... I do everytime I enter a court room.  Keep records... documentation..... school records..... and most of all..... A STRONG MIND FOR THE KIDS...

Do not let your kids witness the horror that you feel and / or endure.. be their strength and role model.

Don't give up... YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL AND WORTHY OF MUCH BETTER.

You asked how women can protect themselves, even after the fact.

 

 By using common sense. There's no free lunch. You made the mistake that a whole lot of women make and that is looking for some guy to ride in on a white horse and rescue you financially, and you were willing to ignore that little inner voice that you MUST have had when that man who made your life hell first came into it! You wanted to believe the lie. Life is tough when you're out on your own...I've been there; I know. But, what you and other women must learn is that life is never tougher than when you allow some creep into your life who's mission on this earth is to con you into giving him your soul! 

 

See, you DON'T put yourself into the position of living with someone you "don't know". You learn everything about them BEFORE you allow them into your life!  I'll say to you what I've been saying to so many other women: "we live in the age of information that is readily available on the Internet....do a background check on any man who is interested in coming into your life. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!!  And STAY OUT OF THE BEDROOM, for crying out loud!! Know that NO one loves another person at first sight...real love takes time, and until you know EVERYTHING about someone, you can't truly love them....and, if there isn't real love there, then they don't deserve the treasure that is YOU!! 

 

You said it yourself in the last line of your post: "You're beautiful and worthy of much better".  I hope you follow that good advice.

 

And, please check out my website: WWW.NONONSENSEGRAMMYTREE.BLOGSPOT.COM where you will find a whole lot of helpful articles that I've written....one of which is called "Sex and the Single Mom" in the January posts, and one called "Cyber Stupid", which is in this month's posts.

 

Good luck to you....and I mean that.

 
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February 14, 2008, 7:40 pm PST

Borderline Personality Disorder

Dr Phil can obviously not make an official diagnosis under these circumstances for ethical reasons, but the information here  definately would send a professional in the direction of  a borderline personality disorder.  The lying and the acting out are a couple indicators, but the real indicator is his chameleon personality.  He  is simply what ever personality that is called for in a given situation to place himself in a situation where he can maintain a semblance of  self-esteem.  I would guess that Dr.Phil picked up on this rather quickly as he caught every attempt this man made at what is called "splitting".  That is where a person tries to deflect responsiblity or negative information by blaming others or pointing out wrong doing of others.   You may note that Dr. Phil never made a personal attack on the man, yet he constantly  tried to be seen as the victim.  I have read a few comments that criticized the woman for falling for this man's lies.  I want to let people know that while Dr. Phil is very experienced and quite savy, many young, but well trained, therapists fall for these tactics.  I have heard more than one story of a therapist who was fooled by a person with these tendencies.  There is no way a person could ethically make a clinical diagnosis from watching a television program, yet often, if it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck, there is reason to suspect that you are looking at a duck.  I just want to offer that it is very possible that this woman was dealing with a man that was possibly expert enough in hisillness that even a trained therapist would find him a challenge.  I think we should take the stance of compassion instead of criticism
 
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