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Topic : 07/17 Living on a Prayer

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(Original Air Date: 02/15/08) What happens when a parent’s agenda becomes so extreme that his or her children are forced to live a harsh, stoic existence? Dan and Janna are a college-educated couple married for 15 years with seven children, ages ranging from 2 weeks to 14. They have no income, no heat, no running water and are about to lose their house. Dan and Janna believe that their primitive lifestyle is God’s will, and that they are being led by the Lord. Janna’s mom, Carol, and stepdad, Rich, are worried about the health of their grandchildren. Are they eating enough? Are they warm enough? They say because the children are home schooled, they live in a cult-like home environment, and are not exposed to the outside world. Carol and Rich are willing to bail this family out one last time, but why are Dan and Janna refusing the help? After eight failed businesses, why won’t Dan get a job to support his family? Where will they go when they are forced out of their home? Talk about the show here.

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February 15, 2008, 2:42 pm PST

LMAO! Ellie Mae & Jethro

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OKAY PEOPLE WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?  CAN SOMEBODY TELL ELLIE MAY AND JETHRO THAT CPS IS A REAL ORGANIZATION AND THAT THEIR ACTIONS WILL DEFINITELY PUT THEIR KIDS IN FOSTER CARE.  I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN BRING A NEWBORN BABY HOME WITH NO RUNNING WATER!!!!!!!!!!  THIS REALLY TICKS ME OFF ,THEY ARE TOO OLD FOR THIS CRAP.  STOP HAVING KIDS IF YOU CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THE ONES YOU GOT.  I THINK THAT THOSE CHILDREN NEED TO GO TO SCHOOL SO THEY CAN GET A WELL BALANCED MEAL: BUT WAIT: MAYBE THE PARENTS ARE HOME SCHOOLING SO SCHOOL OFFICIALS DON'T CALL CPS.  I STILL OWE ON MY STUDENT LOANS BUT THESE FINE PEOPLE ARE EDUCATED AND STILL DON'T HAVE A CLUE ... WHAT A WASTE OF A FREAKIN DEGREE... SORRY IF THAT'S HARSH BUT I FEEL BAD FOR THOSE CHILDREN... GET A JOB ! GET A JOB ! GET A JOB!

CAN SOMEBODY TELL ELLIE MAY AND JETHRO THAT CPS IS A

 

(TOO FUNNY)

 
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February 15, 2008, 2:43 pm PST

SEVEN TYPES OF ANXIETY AND DEPRESSION

The brain is involved in everything we do.  How we think, how we feel, how we act, and how well we get along with other people is related to the moment-by-moment functioning of the brain. When the brain works right, people tend to work right. When the brain is troubled, people tend to struggle being their best selves. 

 

A depressive disorder is a whole-body illness, involving your body, mood, and thoughts.  It affects the way you eat and sleep, the way you feel about yourself and the way you do things.  A depressive disorder is not the same as a passing blue mood.  Without treatment, symptoms can last for weeks, months, or years.  Appropriate treatment however, can help most people who suffer from depression.  Some of my favorite books that provide a great introduction and insight are:

 

How to Journal for Therapy:

http://arar.essortment.com/therapyjournali_repu.htm 

 

Healing Anxiety and Depression (7 types of anxiety and depression) by Daniel Amen and Lisa Routh OR Getting Help:  The Complete and Authoritative Guide to Self-Assessment and Treatment of Mental Health Problems by Jeffrey Wood

 

 

Possibly the saddest fact about depression is that much of this suffering is unnecessary.  Most people with a depressive illness do not seek treatment.  Unfortunately, many people do not recognize they have a treatable illness.  Thanks for many years of research, psychotherapy and depending on the severity medications; appropriate treatment, however, can help most people who suffer from depression.

 

Hope it helps!

 

 
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February 15, 2008, 2:44 pm PST

I agree with you

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I hope someone steps in on behalf of the children and take them out of that "home" and then charge those parents with neglect and abuse.   Those parents might end up killing those children because their "God" told them they need to be saved.

 

Why are those people allowed to live like that...WITH children?

I don't know what state this family lives in but I can't believe that Child Protective Services hasn't been contacted regarding the way these children are living. They must be from the South because up North the lack of Heat would have been an immediate concern.  Or maybe they live in New Hampshire... the "Live Free or Die" state.

I feel really sad for these children.

 
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February 15, 2008, 2:45 pm PST

HELLLLLOOOOOOOOO...

They're all yelling at this guy that keeps trying different jobs, which don't seem to work out, but why isn't anyone looking at the wife who has seen this year after year, which is how I believe she put it, yet she keeps popping out all those babies.  Thus, the "Helllllllllllllloooooooooo" banner. 

 
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February 15, 2008, 2:46 pm PST

This man scares the crap out of me

He strikes me as the type of person that I'll be reading about somewhere down the road that will be a family annihilator.  There must be a law somewhere that gets those kids out from under these parents.
 
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February 15, 2008, 2:48 pm PST

Cold milk for a newborn?

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OKAY PEOPLE WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?  CAN SOMEBODY TELL ELLIE MAY AND JETHRO THAT CPS IS A REAL ORGANIZATION AND THAT THEIR ACTIONS WILL DEFINITELY PUT THEIR KIDS IN FOSTER CARE.  I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN BRING A NEWBORN BABY HOME WITH NO RUNNING WATER!!!!!!!!!!  THIS REALLY TICKS ME OFF ,THEY ARE TOO OLD FOR THIS CRAP.  STOP HAVING KIDS IF YOU CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THE ONES YOU GOT.  I THINK THAT THOSE CHILDREN NEED TO GO TO SCHOOL SO THEY CAN GET A WELL BALANCED MEAL: BUT WAIT: MAYBE THE PARENTS ARE HOME SCHOOLING SO SCHOOL OFFICIALS DON'T CALL CPS.  I STILL OWE ON MY STUDENT LOANS BUT THESE FINE PEOPLE ARE EDUCATED AND STILL DON'T HAVE A CLUE ... WHAT A WASTE OF A FREAKIN DEGREE... SORRY IF THAT'S HARSH BUT I FEEL BAD FOR THOSE CHILDREN... GET A JOB ! GET A JOB ! GET A JOB!

This is insane, bringing home baby with no utilities? SOMEONE TAKE THESE KIDS AWAY FROM THIS BIBLE-THUMPING COUPLE.
 
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February 15, 2008, 2:48 pm PST

02/15 Living on a Prayer

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I want that version of the bible that tells me to drift from one failed aspiration to another and to help people break the law. Running a business demands that one find a service that sells and then sell it. Keeping a job means working at the task for which you were hired, whether you like it or not. However, now that Dan has all this free publicity for his license plate blocker, I am sure he will sell four more cans. Dan and Jenna can live any way they want, but they have no right to place their children in jeopardy. Instead of supporting Dan and Jenna, why don't these people sue for custody and save their children from the downhill spiral of their parent's version of a "life in the Lord."
That version does exist .But, unfortunely, it only exists in Dan's head. It's his own "Bible" that tells him just what he wants to hear. But, you won't be able to buy it. Since he's too lazy to write, copy, and sell, it.
 
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February 15, 2008, 2:49 pm PST

What a Bunch of Crap

This show and the show yesterday have left me frustrated.  I feel like neither show was completed.   Like there is something more to be said.

 

The show of the 15th.....why  would any woman have 7 children that she can't provide for alone or with her husband?  She needs birth control or tubal ligation or something.  I feel so sorry for the chldren and the next few years of their lives.

 

I hope someone will offer this man a real job and he will accept it and will begin to provide for his family better....and in his spare time work on his other income ideas.

 

The show of the 14th....left me just wondering, will we come back from a commercial break.

 
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February 15, 2008, 2:50 pm PST

GET THE CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR!!!HELP THE KIDS DAM ASS

    DR. PHIL,

DO SOMETHING DON'T LET THE KIDS GO WITH THEM!!!

HELP THE KIDS NOT THE MOTHER AND FATHER.

POOR POOR POOR KIDS

 KIDS NEED LOVE AND IN WARM HOMES AND WATER AND A LOT LOT MORE.

MY GOD WHAT A LOSER!!!!!! Mean No No Road Rage No No No 

 
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February 15, 2008, 2:50 pm PST

I totally agree

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 This show was certainly eerie....i 've lived this one as did my children.  Note the fellow's wedding picture and his current look of sunken eyes and grey pallor.  This same thing happened to my husband under the guise of following the Lord.   Slowly but surely he slipped into serious mental illness.  If the Dr. Phil staff is following this message board, I ask that they follow this family for when the bottom truly falls out from under him he may turn to violence and hurt those that he professes to love the most.....please watch out for those children.
When this man realizes that his interpretation of the scriptures is incorrect and begins to feel let down by God there is going to be a problem.  Were talking family annihilation here.
 
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