Topic : 07/17 Living on a Prayer

If anyone knows the state this family lives in...........please let me know.  I would be relieved to report the atrocities in this household, all in the name of God.   It's these kind of "Christians" that turn people away from the Lord.  These children should not have to endure another day in these circumstances.  What kind of mother stands by and allows her children to suffer?  I believe their spirits will be scarred for life.  

I have a problem with him not supporting his family.  My husband works full time and we both manage our small business on the side.  We are doing great, I believe that God is honoring and blessing our hard work.  I'm not mad at these people, but they are truly twisting the scriptures.  I believe they are sincere, but are very wrong.  I understand their decision to homeschool.  I do that as well. We, as parents are teachers;  the "school house" didn't always exist.  I also understand their decision for having a large family.  I have that as well.  I can also understand how she loves her husband and supports him no matter what.  However, she needs to lovingly, firmly, express to her husband that he needs to make money for them to live.  I don't think that DCF needs to come in and take the children away.  I lived in a home with no heat or air when I was a child and I, too had to sleep on the floor.  I was able to deal with that situation because I had a family that loved me and we, as a family unit, were strong.  This man needs to get counsel from a group of Godly people that can show him in scripture where he is wrong.   No, he should not be expected to "keep up with the Jones'"  but he should provide the basic needs for his family's survival.

He has 4 or 5 applications out???  That's it??  Does he think someone is going to knock on his door and say "Hi there!  God sent me here togive you a job!"  It doesn't work that way.   That man needs to be out every day filling out aplications.  And if he has to work at a fast-food joint and work as a dishwasher; so what!!  A "GOOD JOB"  for this fool would be ANY JOB!!!!  My husband LOST his job when the company he worked for for over 20 years closed down.  He had to take a paycut of about 50% and get a second job as I did until we were back on our feet.  IT CAN BE DONE.  Also, I hate to sound harsh:  IF YOU CANNOT FEED THEM PLEASE DO NOT BREED THEM!!!!  My husband and I are childless BY CHOICE because we could

not afford to have them.  Just a thought.......

 I'm sorry your family is going through such a tough time right now. We aren't judging you. Our family sends our support, well wishes and prayers. God bless you.

Hi All,

I haven't seen Dan in several years but I'm a former employee of his Acrylic Creations company - a great little plastic fabrication company while it lasted.

I think it's really pathetic, for lack of a better word, at how everybody is so quick to judge these guys as poor parents. Many of you hadn't even seen the show and yet were quick to judge. What a bunch of rubbish.

I knew Dan well, was a friend, and I didn't see any parental lacking. In fact, what I saw on a regular basis were two very loving, Godly parents. To suggest that their kids should be taken from them, especially without knowing the couple as I did (or the full situation) is pure foolishness. Doing such a thing would rip apart the love that they all share, and ruin lives. There is no abuse. There is no willful neglect. There IS plenty of love from what I witnessed, though they are obviously struggling and lacking in many things that most people take for granted (they were in a similar living situation when I knew them, though perhaps not quite as bad).

But with that said...

Regarding what Dr. Phil and the pastor on the show said, I'd firmly agree. Dan's sister Chris pretty much summed things up perfectly.

If I could talk to Dan today, I'd tell him to continue his entrepreneurial pursuits ON THE SIDE, while *first and foremost* securing a dependable job and holding that job in high regard. Get two jobs if necessary, whatever it takes to pay the bills and make ends meet. The situation absolutely demands it.

I'm also EXTREMELY entrepreneurial at heart so to an extent I understand where Dan is coming from. But here's the thing. When Dan laid me off the day before Thanksgiving (no hard feelings) because Acrylic Creations was failing , I was facing the same situation as Dan, and so many others do. I realized I *had* to GET A JOB first and foremost to protect my family. I started working for another company at a whopping $12 per hour, and my wife began a daycare to help make ends meet. That's what we did for a few years.

I spent time ON THE SIDE, sometimes late at night, working on starting an Internet business...

As a result, I was able to eventually quit my job and start my own Internet marketing company which now consistently makes well into six figures every year. I work from home and set my own hours. I can work almost anywhere in the world, even on the cruise I just took to Hawaii. I've PAID OFF one nice home, PAID OFF another really nice lake home, PAID OFF a sports car, PAID OFF a nice SUV (which I got for my wife as a surprise birthday gift)...

The Lord has truly blessed my family and I.

I believe Dan really and truly means well, but I think he's going about things in a very wrong way as Phil and his own sister said. I hope he will listen to their wisdom and if pride is in the way (I don't know and won't judge) that he'd put that aside as well. I had to put my pride aside and do my absolute best for the company I went to work for after being laid off.
And look what happened!

I love both Dan and Janna and wish them nothing but the best.

And Dan if you're reading this, I encourage you to go out and get that job ASAP man! And keep working on your biz ideas on the side, but FOCUS on one idea at a time until it absolutely fails, or succeeds. Only THEN try moving on to the next idea. Even now, it sounds like you're trying way to many things at once with the fruit trees and license plate cans, etc. etc. It will never, ever work that way. Trust me. *Focusing on one idea* is the key. And like I say, focus UNTIL it fails or succeeds (give it a fair chance in other words).

-Bryan

Ithink you are so right, these people are very educated. And just because of their deucation they ought to have enough sense to support these children. If they do not they need to be taken away from them. But , you know what ? As long as they can use her parents money why should they go to work????

I call Dan's attitude very manipulating

I feel sorry for the grandparents, they are the ones who are worried about those children. The parents know that if they do not provde for these kids, THE GRANDPARENTS WILL!!!!

That guy is so much like the guy I used to live with.  He's in total denial and will do anything and make any excuse not to work and make money.   I used to think it was low self-esteem that he didn't have the confidence to try, but he would always go after the get rich quick schemes, like this guy tonight.  Once he even went to Romania to sell 'stock options' to unsuspecting victims because he was told he could make $20K in a month.  Idiot.  And so is this guy on the show tonight.  And his wife is even further in denial.  He must be good in bed is all I can say.  There's no other reason to stay with a loser like that.

 

Dedicated to Dan and Janna:

 

$20.00

 

Sometimes we just need to be

reminded!

 

A well-known speaker

started off his seminar by:

 

holding up a $20.00

bill. In the room of 200, he asked,

"Who would like this

$20 bill?"

 

Hands started going up.

 

He said, "I am going to give this

$20 to one of you

 

but first, let me

do this.

He

proceeded to crumple up the $20 dollar bill.

 

He then asked, "Who

still wants it?"

 

Still the hands  were up in the air.  Well, he  replied, "What if I do this?"

 

And he dropped it on the ground and started

to grind it into the floor with his shoe.

 

He picked it up, now crumpled and dirty.

 

"Now, who still wants it?"

 

Still the hands went into the air.

 

My friends, we have all learned a very valuable lesson.

 

No matter what

I did to the money, you still wanted it because it did not decrease in value.

 

It was still worth $20.

 

Many times in our lives,

we are dropped, crumpled, and ground into the dirt

by the decisions we

make and the circumstances that come our way.

 

We feel as though we are

worthless.

But no matter what has

happened or what will happen, you will never lose your value.

 

Dirty or clean, crumpled or finely creased, you are still

priceless to those who DO LOVE you.

 

The worth of our

lives comes not in what we do or who we know,

but by WHO WE ARE and

WHOSE WE ARE.

 

You are  special !

-

Don't EVER forget it."

 

If you do not pass

this on, you may never know the lives it touches, the

hurting hearts it speaks to,

 

or the hope that it can bring.

 

Count your blessings,

not your problems.

 

"And remember:

amateurs built the ark ..

 

professionals

built the Titanic.

 

If God brings you to

it - He will bring you through it.

GET A ROOM AND DONT SHOW YOUR KISSING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!