Topic : 07/17 Living on a Prayer

Exactly!!!  How did the parents know to give the exact amount $7???? to purchase a van and other items if someone had now asked them for the money?  I have a college degree with honors and was out of work for two years---  I sure sent out more than 5 resumes to Pet Shops -- in fact I sure sent out more than 5 resumes per day.  I hope someone from the child protective services steps in and forces these parents to step up or place those kids in homes where someone can help them.  It was APPALLING for the wife to sit  there at the end of the show rubbing his neck like a wounded animal while her children are being forced to live in a third-world country under our flag!

I wonder, while Dan was reading about how worthless wealth will be in the end, did he ever head over to Proverbs where it often states that a man who won't work and support his family is a disgrace to his parents? Has Jana ever read Proverbs 31? Maybe while he's breeding fish in the swimming pool and turning the garage into a greenhouse he could watch the kids while she does something productive.

But more to the point, I see them going on their feelings and not much testing about where those feelings are coming from. I don't see them comparing their feelings to the scriptures to determine how they match up. Feelings are transient as evidenced by Dan's numerous ventures. If his feelings are really consistent with God's will wouldn't something have panned out by now?

Dr. Phil is right, they cherry-pick the scriptures that suit them and ignore the inconvenient ones.

So the man has four or five job applications that he has sent out?  Do you honestly believe that sending only that meager amount of applications out is going to land him a job?  I am only saying this because I do not know what state they live in( (it was probably mentioned but I forgot) anyway, I live in Michigan and I have been unemployed for the last year and have sent out, without exaggeration, about 400 to 500 resumes for jobs.  Four or five applications is NOTHING.  No wonder he isn't getting work.  He is not putting any effort into it.  A person has to put a lot more energy into a job search than that.  If he is waiting for a call back on his little four or five applications, GOOD LUCK with that!  Not going to happen.  People continue to amaze me, even at this late stage in life!

This is really something.

 (7) children that will grow up thinking hand out from (GOD) is the way to live.

We teach our children by example, Now tell me What kind of EXAMPLE is it when they have No running water, NO heat, No food, etc, etc, Why, Because their waiting for 'GOD' to come through for them.

Well i hate to be the one to tell them that they'll be waiting a long time.

You have to take the bull by the horn and do it yourselves, How irresponsible our these Parents? To really believe he's going to come down and turn on there POWER & WATER and  put FOOD on their TABLE.

SOMEONE NEEDS TO GET THESE CHILDREN OUT OF THIS HOUSE AND GIVE THEM A CHANCE OF LIFE. LIFE IN THE REAL WORLD WHERE PEOPLE WORK FOR WHAT THEY HAVE AND DON'T DEPEND ON HANDOUTS FROM OTHERS.

Which I'm sure their wishing they've hit GOLD because they get the chance to get help from DR Phil. (( How would it be)) Most of us work our fingers to the bone to Keep the FOOD on the table, The LIGHTS ON TO see the beauty of what we've worked for each and everyday, AND to have a HOT shower before we go to work.

I'm sorry but I don't feel sorry for the PARENTS at all. They shouldn't be Parents of (7) KIDS C'mon.

They have Neglected and abused their rights and should be made to "NEVER MAKE ANOTHER BABY".

This Subject requires help from the LAW, Not DR Phil.

 

WHAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ROLE OF A PARENT-- PROTECT & PROVIDE, Which they do Either, WHY -- Because Mr. FATHER & MOTHER doesn't want to work for someone else BUT THEMSELVES.

((HOW MANY TIMES HAS HE FAILED)) EIGHT, SOMETHING ISN'T WORKING.

WHATEVER-- Take a Hint..

IT'S NOT WORKING, DO YOUR FAMILY  ((KIDS)) THE BEST THING YOU'VE DONE SENSE HAVING THEM, GIVE THEM TO SOMEONE WHO CAN PROVIDE UNTIL YOU CAN. "Plain and Simple"  WHY MAKE THEM SUFFER?

My Prayers goes out to each one of those Kids. And for the kids to have Faith IN themselves and Not to depend on God  BUT TO DEPEND ON ONE SELF.

 

PRAY TO GOD, PRAYERS ARE ALWAYS THE BEST WAY TO FEEL GOOD ABOUT ONES SELF, HAVE FAITH IN GOD. AND MOST OF ALL HAVE YOUR OWN HOPES & DREAMS. AND IF YOU WANT IT BAD ENOUGH IT WILL HAPPENED, IT ALWAYS DOES.  YOU JUST HAVE TO WORK HARD AND HAVE FAITH.

GOOD LUCK TO THE KIDS. YOU ALL ARE BEAUTIFUL. "CHILDREN OF GOD"

 

Pray to GOD, Have faith in GOD. ask GOD for the strength and love to see you through life, GOD does listen, but he doesn't turn on lights and give you food and water.

Amen.

God Bless each one of those neglected Kids.♥

Bella

 

 

This guy is not a father...he is a sperm donor.  There is a big differance.  He is hiding behind his relition.  When his family gives him money to feed his family and provide for them...he spends the money on himself and his hair-brained schemes.   To me this is just total selfishness at tbe expense of his children  His wife is just as stupid as he is.  Both of them are college-educated "idiots".

 

If I was the grandmother I would start proceedings in getting these children out of this environment.  Living without heat is bad....but living without running water is horrible.  This breeds all kinds of diseases.

 

I am a very devout Christian and without prayer I could not have made it in my life.  God has provided doors for me....but it is up to me to walk through those doors.   The truest statement on earth is GOD HELPS THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES.

There is a difference between a disaster (a hurraine destroyng your home) and a mess of your own creation.  Helping others in a time of crises is honorable, but it ceases to have any impact on those who insist on making life choices that are at its core - entirely selfish.  
Dan and Jana live ths way because they CAN. 

 

If those around them STOP giving $, etc....  Jana or Dan or both will have to provide for themselves.  Jana's parents should call social services if they have concerns about the children. 

this is not about religion at all.  this is about control, pure and simple.  when Dan says the lord is leading him to sell red light blockers or whatever, what it means is "i don't want to work for someone because that means i am not in control and i don't have the power".  Dan wants control and power, even at the expense of his children and wife.  which only proves that faith isn't the problem, it's the faithful. 

 

Dan wants to call the shots in every aspect of his life and not have anyone tell him what to do.  why did his father-in-law fire him?  why was that not discussed?  the answer might have been very revealing.  and what was his upbringing like?  why was that not brought up?

 

as someone else remarked, he may well be suffering from depression, which is a very selfish, very self-centered disease.  it is anger turned inward, and judging by his appearance on Dr. Phil, Dan is a very angry man, and he is using religion as an excuse for his behavior, which is totally bogus.

 

one more time, this isn't about religious faith.  this is about a control freak, and no amount of prayers and scriptures will change THAT.

No offense but based on your comments in # 1 you haven't read the Bible.

-Bryan

Splitting up a loving family is not the solution here. Love trumps living conditions, every time out.

But obviously, as Phil said, Dan needs to go find work and stop seeking "the next big thing" as far as the attempts at his own business ventures go. It may be something as simple as a burning passion and desire to succeed at his own business, but Dan needs to put that aside (or ON the side) and go find steady work asap. That's the solution here.

Splitting up the family would be an incredibly foolish thing to do.

  I was not raised in a christian home but have decided to live my life for the Lord and am raising my kids the same way. I have a hard time believing that any parent no matter what their faith would purposely put their children in harms way. I'm a divorced mother of two working two jobs just a tad over minimum wage and I find it hard to make it. We get by the bills are always paid and I'm buying my home but still just with what I make and two kids I don't see how they can live with themselves knowing that they can do better. I believe in the power of prayer and I know that God will provide but....he only provides us with the resources we need to make it on our own...he will not pay the bills or put food on the table, he points us in the direction we need to go to make that happen. 1 Timothy 5:8 says...But those who won't care for their relatives, ESPECIALLY those in their own household, have denied the true faith.Such people are worse than unbelievers.  I know when my daughter was diagnosed with Epilepsy we laid hands on and prayed every sunday service and every day at home but I also knew meds would be the only way to stop her  anguish. God gave us the resources to make a trip to Minnesota and see a specialist God gave us the resources to get the Meds we needed but he did not heal her the meds did...God gives direction and resources not the actual means, praying for those resources is great but we have to use what God gives us and put it to use. I think that this family is lost to the true meaning of  what God actually does for us and I also think that  maybe they need some Pastoral Enlightening.