Topic : 02/19 The Dr. Phil House: Rules of Engagement, Part 2

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Dr. Phil continues his work with four engaged couples who wonder if they’re ready to take the plunge. With issues such as abuse, infidelity, chauvinism and unplanned pregnancy, the couples move into The Dr. Phil House to see if their relationship has a chance to survive. After completing the last leg of the teamwork challenge, tensions in the House run high as one team gives up and accuses the other of cheating. Scott is confronted about his questionable game tactics. Will he admit to cheating and apologize? Then, since the women complain that their fiancés don’t pay them enough attention, Dr. Phil invites some good-looking gentlemen to the house to pamper the women. While each woman has a one-on-one talk with an attractive stranger, the men secretly watch. Which women reveal the good, the bad and the ugly about their relationships, and which one says her man is perfect? During an intense meeting, Dr. Phil doesn’t mince words when he tells them which couples don’t stand a chance of a successful marriage. What is behind Kalin’s anger? Will Stephanie stop trying to control Steve? And, Dr. Phil makes an offer to Scott and Lisa that brings them to tears. Plus, a huge prize is at stake when a money expert quizzes the couples on how well they know their partner’s financial situation. Talk about the show here.

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February 19, 2008, 10:55 am PST

02/19 The Dr. Phil House: Rules of Engagement, Part 2

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I tend to agree with alot of what you are saying.  While this young couple may seem more mature in comparison to the other three (and it can't be too hard to out do them in the maturity department), the fact is that 19 is very very young, and even if they love ech other and bring a child into the world with good intentions, this is not the ideal age to have children at.  First of all, they are very young themselves.  They haven't actually even reached adulthood at 19.  Like you stated in your post, at 19 they are not going to be able to give this child what they could in 5 or 10 years after they get their educations, earn money and get sttled into a house, condo or whatever living arrangement they wiill have. They are already fighting constantly over money.  This will get worse once they have a child and have even more expenses.  The child will have to come first and many many sacrifices will have to be made.  They probably won't have the chance to save much and life is going to be a financial struggle for years to come.

Another thing to consider are all the things they are going to miss out on, which will probably lead to resentment later on.  Enjoying life, college experience, going out with friends, travelling. At some point they are going to feel that they missed out, though they would probably deny that now. 

I met and started dating my (then future) husband at 19, just the age that they are now.  I knew I loved him very early on and knew I wanted to marry him. But we waited three years until we both finished our educations.  Then once married,  I worked a few more years and we got into a house before having children.  By that time we could give children a very comfortable lifestyle, and in addition, we had those few years to ourselves first to go places and do things as a couple. We didn't enter the parenting years feeling like we missed out on life.

I do wish that couple the best of luck.  It is not going to be an easy road; they are not entering parenthood under optimal circumstances so they will have to try that much harder to make things work out.

Don't you see it doesn't have to get worse with the fighting....they can be given the tools to deal with it and not to fight fair and have a convo.  that doesn't turn in to fighting.

They can break those bad habits that many have in a relationship and have a great one.  Instead of pushing them down lets give them the tools the lift themselves up.

Why do so many want people to fail?  Yes they are young, yes they don't have all the tools, they don't seem to be habing the smae problems the others are.  They seem to be smart enough to know that if they don't get help it won't last.  No one seems to see that they are saying we know we are young, we know we need help to make.  THATS WHY THEY ARE THERE.

many do not enter parent hood in optimal circumstances doesn't mean they are going to fail.  I didn't I have a great boy to prove it.

I would love to own a house but when i buy one it isn't just to say i own one.  we rent now.  Also it isn't smart for us to buy one every 3-5 years.  sorry.  and when I buy a house it's my house till I die.  thats my thoughts on it.  I don't live a life where going out and getting one next month is going to work.

I wish but no.  I didn't feel like I missed out life.  Of course I don't think partying is much of a life.
 
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February 19, 2008, 11:02 am PST

LOVE THE HOUSE SHOWS

CAN'T WAIT TO WATCH THE SHOW OUT HERE ON THE WEST COAST. I JUST LOVE THESE SHOWS. MY HUSBAND DIDN'T' WANT TO GO BE ON THE SHOW WHEN CALLED BY A STAFF MEMBER FOR THE MARRIED COUPLES,  CAUSE HE DIDN'T NEED A NEW A HOLE. WHICH HE DID. SO I GAVE HIM A HOLE PAPER FULL OF IT CALLED DIVORCE. SO WE ARE DIVORCED I WAS NOT TAKING IT ANYMORE AFTER 28 YEARS , I AM FREE. FREE FROM THE ABUSE, MENTAL, PHYSICAL, PSYCHOLOGICAL TO. I LOVE MY LIFE NOW. NOBODY GIVING ME GHB TO RAPE ME AT NIGHT, HE COULD NOT HEAR THE WORD NO AND TOOK IT INTO HIS OWN HANDS NEEDING TO SATISFY HIMSELF. HE COULD HAVE KILLED ME. ALWAYS TELLING ME I AM GOOD FOR NOTHING. WELL HERE I AM PEOPLE, ALIVE AN WELL LIKE DR. PHIL SAYS IT'S BETTER TO HEALTHY ALONE THEN SICK WITH SOMEONE ELSE. LOVING MY LIFE NOW.

 
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February 19, 2008, 12:20 pm PST

Yikes - Lacey is really something!!!

There's no doubt that Stephanie is a princess and unless she grows up BEFORE the wedding Steve should move on.  In a marriage there are no "princesses" or "princes" - unless they're that new little baby.

 

She is a nicer woman than Lacey though - Lacey tears people down - she doesn't just nag - she naaaggsss.  Kalin is no bargain either -- neither of them not very nice people - and they found each other.

 
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February 19, 2008, 12:53 pm PST

02/19 The Dr. Phil House: Rules of Engagement, Part 2

I think that the young couple does not have any business getting married, they might be having a child young, but to add a marriage to that at this point would not be wise.  Why do they feel the need to push that?  I mean, they can both be there for the child without getting married as well.  I think it is ridiculous that Dr. Phil is even backing that possibility.  

And to the couple wherein the guy was physically abusive to his girlfriend, are you nuts!  That is not a guy  that she needs to be marrying.  I mean , if , and only IF, they were meant to be together, it is not at this time.  These people need to get out into the world, find themselves, and then consider getting with someone. 

 

 
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February 19, 2008, 1:05 pm PST

I wasn't going to bother to respond to you

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Don't you see it doesn't have to get worse with the fighting....they can be given the tools to deal with it and not to fight fair and have a convo.  that doesn't turn in to fighting.

They can break those bad habits that many have in a relationship and have a great one.  Instead of pushing them down lets give them the tools the lift themselves up.

Why do so many want people to fail?  Yes they are young, yes they don't have all the tools, they don't seem to be habing the smae problems the others are.  They seem to be smart enough to know that if they don't get help it won't last.  No one seems to see that they are saying we know we are young, we know we need help to make.  THATS WHY THEY ARE THERE.

many do not enter parent hood in optimal circumstances doesn't mean they are going to fail.  I didn't I have a great boy to prove it.

I would love to own a house but when i buy one it isn't just to say i own one.  we rent now.  Also it isn't smart for us to buy one every 3-5 years.  sorry.  and when I buy a house it's my house till I die.  thats my thoughts on it.  I don't live a life where going out and getting one next month is going to work.

I wish but no.  I didn't feel like I missed out life.  Of course I don't think partying is much of a life.

I wasn't even going to bother to respond to you because from reading your answer to me and to other posters, you tend to twist things and misinterpret things.   But I decided to give it a try anyway....

First of all no one said that "partying" is a way of life.  But I do think that if you miss out on important occasions and activities  as an older teen or young adult that someday you may resent it. Secondly, who said that they wanted this young couple to fail?  Stating what should be obvious; that raising a child (which is not easy even under optimal circumstances) is going to be difficult under their circumstances does not equal wanting them to fail.  They are going to have a very rough road ahead of them.  That is a fact!!!  They are marrying very young and have not completed their educations which would enable them to provide well for themselves and their child.  And they are arguing alot. This makes the case for waiting until you are mature enough emotionally as well as financially before having children. Since it is already after the fact for them, they are going to have to work very very hard if this is to work out.

 
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February 19, 2008, 1:10 pm PST

Dedication at End of Show

Does anyone know anything about the decication at the end of the show.

 

It was, "In Loving Memory of Roger King".

 
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February 19, 2008, 1:17 pm PST

Communication

Marriage is constant communication. I am very lucky and my husband is absolutely wonderful. We communicate about everything both positive and negative. At the end of each day we ask each other "what was your high and low for today." We respect each other and when one of us is upset the other is there for comfort. Many people comment on the age of the 19 year olds but they seem more mature than the older couples. There is a book my husband and I bought before we were married called "The Hard Questions: 100 Essential Questions To Ask Before You Say I Do." This is a great book to answer questions you may not think about when you are "In love."
 
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February 19, 2008, 1:29 pm PST

Why can't Dr. Phil do a show on "normal couples".

Alright, I need to speak my mind. 

I really like Dr. Phil but can I say that his shows lately have been depressing.  Where does he find these crazy people?


Here is an idea for you Phil. 

Do the opposite show!  Show couples that are best friends and Know how to work together.  Have a game where couples have to work together to win and show people what being married is suppose to be like.

I love being married to my best friend. If I saw your show before I married my husband- I would of run for the hills. Your shows make marriage/relationships look like somethiing from a horror movie.

Honestly- I never dreamed of being so happy.  How about showing GOOD marriages.

Michelle
 
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February 19, 2008, 2:03 pm PST

02/19 The Dr. Phil House: Rules of Engagement, Part 2

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Marriage is constant communication. I am very lucky and my husband is absolutely wonderful. We communicate about everything both positive and negative. At the end of each day we ask each other "what was your high and low for today." We respect each other and when one of us is upset the other is there for comfort. Many people comment on the age of the 19 year olds but they seem more mature than the older couples. There is a book my husband and I bought before we were married called "The Hard Questions: 100 Essential Questions To Ask Before You Say I Do." This is a great book to answer questions you may not think about when you are "In love."
Your right that is one of the number one keys when my husband and I got married we had a marriage rertreat that thaught us the speaker listener tech.  I say that is a tool that every coupld should learn before being married.

It's a hard road no matter what age you marry or have kids.  or your jobs and how much money you make.

So many people talk at each other they forget how to listen.  they hear but don't listen.  I don't see many of the couples listening to each other  I think the young ones have the best shot...yes it's going to be hard and I have never said it was going to be easy but they seem to want to be married and not get married as dr phil said.  they also seem to know it's going to be hard and they are asking for help! isn't that a plus for them.

Any ways that sounds like a great book even though I am married i will remember it because I have younger cousins that will get married some day.

Another great book is the five love languages...it helped me understand things about my husband and my self.

 
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February 19, 2008, 2:08 pm PST

I would love to speak to Kalin

I saw something today on the show that Kailn said that really hit me like a brink.  He was watching Lacey with the guy in the bedroom and was talking about his own cheating.  He asked the other men if they had cheated, they all said no.  He then said to the guys "you treat her so awful", or something to that affect.   I have never thought about this before.  I would love to hear more on this from him.  This may answer some questions about my relationshiop.  I am suddenly being treated like crap, and wondering what the deal is.
 

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