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Created on : Thursday, February 14, 2008, 03:51:34 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/20/08) Dr. Phil takes on a couple whose story will shock you. Karen says she’s tired of being degraded and controlled by Rick, her husband of six years. She says he calls her “fat pig” and “fat whore,” criticizes her makeup, makes fat jokes and puts photos of nearly naked women on their computer and exercise machine to motivate her. Karen says if she tries to get close to him, he pushes her away and says, “Don’t even touch me until you’re under 200 pounds.” Rick says when he married Karen, she was within his standards, but now she definitely isn’t. He says he’s just trying to motivate his wife, but says it’s a good thing when they fight physically because it’s good exercise “when the beast wails her arms.” Karen says she puts up with the mental abuse because they have two children, and as crazy as it sounds, she still loves him. Is there a chance to salvage this relationship? Tell us what you think!

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February 20, 2008, 4:07 pm PST

If I were in her shoes...

I'd start shaping up.   mentally and physically.   And then I'd let him know that he ain't good enough for me.

 

 
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February 20, 2008, 4:07 pm PST

I have really bad PtSd

I could barely get through the hsow. I absolutely puked .

please get the hell out of there. There is NO reason to stay. Leave. do this for the sake of the kids if not for you, FOR THEM TODAY.This guy needs to be   in     jail with     really huge guys in it.

 
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February 20, 2008, 4:07 pm PST

She needs to get a backbone??

I just love it when folks who haven't got a clue sit back and tell the victim to just 'chin up' and move on out of the line of fire. What the clueless don't realize is how insidious emotional and verbal abuse is. It often starts in the very first relationships we form. Mine began with my Step-Monster Mother, when I was just a little over three years old. Some of the inability to recognize and thwart the abuse is the warped sense of yourself and how life works in what you are raised to believe is a normal family. Little by little their abuse teaches you, brainwashes you and molds you into a person that starts to believe that you are so defective that you can't even possibly be worthy of the air you're being allowed to breathe.

 

These abusers teach you that you have no value to the rest of the world. That you should do every thing you're told and then some, in order that you may show your deep appreciation for any little scrap of anything that they allow you. You become absolutely convinced that you are too stupid, too short, too fat, too ugly to ever survive without your 'family' to excuse your useless self. The most memorable destruction of my self-worth...the one that I can never get past is having my StepMonster sit me down and tell me that my father told her that I was so ugly that he couldn't stand to look at me. No wonder he worked three jobs and was only home a couple of hours a day. I was so grotesque that he couldn't stand to see me. I must have been so terribly ugly that it caused the death of my biological mother when I was only three years old.

 

So, if you think the victim is at fault for not having a backbone...I suppose you also believe that a female asks to be raped just because she's alive...right?!? Neither makes any sense! But, if you all really want to believe that the victim really is the cause of their own suffering, you've got a lot of learning to do!! Oh and while you're learning...the perpetraters have carte blanche via you and yours.

 

Thanks for your time.

 
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February 20, 2008, 4:08 pm PST

02/20 Bully Husband

I don't usually post on these message boards, and created a log in just so that I could post on this show.  I am disgusted and angry that people treat others in the way that this husband treats his wife.  It is people like this that are the reason there are such problems in this world.  How dare he treat another human being with such disrespect and disregard for her feelings.  She is his wife, the mother of his children and deserves to be treated as a human being.  When his daughter is in a relationship with a man who treats her the same way her father treats her mother, he will only have himself to blame as he is the male role model in her life. To stay in this marriage for the sake of the children is truly toxic to their well being.  Mom needs to realize that she does not deserve to be treated this way, and that there is a man out there who will treat her with dignity and respect whether she is 120lbs or 320lbs. 

 
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February 20, 2008, 4:09 pm PST

Oh my gosh

I see so much of my husband in Rick.  I have 4 kids, and they are the reason I stay.  It is harder to leave when there are children involved.  I really don't have the support of my family or friends.  It is hard to leave.  My husband may not be the extreme like Rick, but they have a lot of the same issues.  My heart was breaking in two for Karen, and believe me, I feel her pain.  For my entire 15 year marriage, I have felt that I was the only one going through what I go through.  Seeing this show today made me realize that there are other women out there that go through the same thing.  I'm glad Karen agreed to counseling, and I hope she uses it.  If I had the resources to go to counseling I would go myself. 
 
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February 20, 2008, 4:10 pm PST

02/20 Bully Husband

Quote From: golsutigers

I am the daughter of a Narcissistic Personality Disordered father.  I've read some of the other comments and it is clear that most people have no idea what that disorder entails.  No amount of "education," rational discussion on proper interpersonal interactions, spousal weight loss, or marriage counseling will help Mr. Bully husband.  His thoughts and actions are rooted in a desperate need to maintain a false image he has of himself.  He is unable to admit to even the slightest fault because his fragile ego cannot cope.  He will always be a victim in his own mind.  Sadly, he is the way he is because he most-likely developed it as a coping mechanism during a very troubled childhood.

I have managed to find hope and continued healing following my own troubled childhood replete with the constant insistence that I was not worthy to breathe air.  I pray that my father will seek help and learn to face the reality of the mess he has made of all of his relationships and make efforts to relate to others in a healthy way. But in the meantime, I also pray that God would give me guilt-free compassion tempered with the strength to maintain necessary boundaries, and a belief that God really can work miracles and help this pathetic soul make real, lasting change for the better. 

 

 

so glad to hear you understand,,,you are a survivor!!!..amen to that ...my father sound almost exsactly like yours...good luck in your future

 

one S to another....

 
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February 20, 2008, 4:10 pm PST

BULLY HUSBAND

Man I feel sorry for this couple!! Not only is he a sadistic ....stard, she is so pitiful  for not leaving this SOB, along time ago!!   I have left relationships for a lot less than that!!!
I do hope that they get help, like Dr Phil said he would do, and I hope that she leaves him after that!!!
 
 
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February 20, 2008, 4:12 pm PST

Lose 267 pounds of ugly fat...kick him to the curb!!

I feel so bad for Karen,,,,people say she should get a backbone, they should relize that the husband has beat her down so much and broke her spirit. The results of his treatment of her is exactly as Dr. Phil showed us.  She feels like running away, but is also full of self doubts and no self worth...etc.   It's horrible, and I agree she should take her children and get as far away from him as possible.  He doesn't love her, and would leave her in a minute...she should beat him to the punch and kick him out.  The counciling she needs is to build herself worth up and hopefully not to work out the marrage.  Lose 267 pounds of ugly fat...kick his ass to the curb!! 
 

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February 20, 2008, 4:14 pm PST

JERK !!! JERK !!! JERK !!!

 Is this jerk for real ? Hey Karen, just leave the jerk. My "Father was just like this JERK and it has affected me for all of my 52 years on this planet. For the sake of your kids, LEAVE !!!. I wouldn't wish what I've gone through on anybody.  This jerk WILL ruin you and your children if you stay any longer. It would be real interesting to hear from this jerks co workers. I can't imagine what it would be like working next to an arrogant ass like him.  Run Karen Run !!!!!!  As Fast As You Can !!!!!!!
 

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February 20, 2008, 4:14 pm PST

You're Strong

Quote From: moduza

  

    I know it may be easy to sit back and say run lady run but a abuser never starts out this way...he or she wants to earn your trust  so on and so forth....but the best thing anyone can do is if you see red flags like he/she telling you what to wear and if you don;t change he insults you ...listen to your gut...NOT THEM small things turn big before you know it ....situations are further complicated when children are involved however my personal opinion well....i was abused by my father from a year old until i was 13,,,then again in foster care...only the foster father got jail time...i thought i was ok until after high school and i broke down...i never did drugs or smoked i was determined to make something of myself. But i fooled myself into thinking i could do it alone....I started working for a company and after 2 years was very sucessfull and i had made friends with a co-worker,,,we began dating after 2 years ,,,,i was shy and moved slow but he was patient and kind and a good listener however i saw red flags and i thought i was just being paranoid..that my past was clouding my judgment....BIG MISTAKE...Long story short he was cruel and when i got depressed he would call me names say I'm lazy and just like my family i was never gonna make anything of myself,,,and when i stuck up for myself he called me crazy ..i started to believe him..,i was so down on myself after that it was hard to do anything,,,,i doubted myself and it almost killed me..he started following me ,,,my brother had come to visit me and he was jealous ...he vandalized my vehicle and said it was all the other people who must hate me...the courts did nothing....he lied to them and said i was crazy and at the time i was very emotional ,,,,i have no other family no one to stand up for me ,,,,so to them one side calm man,,,other ,,,upset woman..i can see why they believed him but it didn;t take long until i was driving and he hit me ,,,twice and then when i ran they questioned me as if i was a criminal..if i didn;t run i thought he was gonna kill me...It was very hard for me to get out of the relationship...I wanted more , i wanted a life i knew i deserved but just like this show i watched today ,,,daily verbal and physical abuse takes it toll ,.,,you may become numb..you may lash out ...you may not even notice...I have never been to this site before however when i saw the show today i felt for that woman because my boy friend said the same thing ,,,he was only insulting me to motivate me...amazing ..I was with him 3 years ,,,Remember even if you are aware of the signs it can happen to you ...reacting quickly and most importantly TALK TO OTHERS...it can be stopped...  I had to get that off my chest ,,,,that was the short version HA WOW,.,,

Thanks for sharing your story and I hope it helps to heal you even more than you already are. I really feel for you because I was in a bad situation too from childhood on and can really relate to what you've been through--you are not alone!  I hope you continue to grow and thrive and wish you every good thing in life.  I hope that for all the pain you have endured you are blessed 100 times over with joy and happiness.

 
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