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Created on : Thursday, February 14, 2008, 03:51:34 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/20/08) Dr. Phil takes on a couple whose story will shock you. Karen says she’s tired of being degraded and controlled by Rick, her husband of six years. She says he calls her “fat pig” and “fat whore,” criticizes her makeup, makes fat jokes and puts photos of nearly naked women on their computer and exercise machine to motivate her. Karen says if she tries to get close to him, he pushes her away and says, “Don’t even touch me until you’re under 200 pounds.” Rick says when he married Karen, she was within his standards, but now she definitely isn’t. He says he’s just trying to motivate his wife, but says it’s a good thing when they fight physically because it’s good exercise “when the beast wails her arms.” Karen says she puts up with the mental abuse because they have two children, and as crazy as it sounds, she still loves him. Is there a chance to salvage this relationship? Tell us what you think!

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February 17, 2008, 4:22 am PST

We Teach People How to Treat Us

I lived with a very abusive man for 2 years and only had the guts to get out after my son was born.  That's been 21 years ago!  I was 20 at the time and had no means of income, no self esteem, no direction.  HE had taken all of that from me because I LET HIM!  However, I had enough "momma" in me to know that I wasn't about to raise a precious innocent child in that chaos. 

 

What I want to say to this woman is this:  You say that you love him...and I totally understand your thinking.  However, you don't truly love him...you just don't love yourself enough to demand more!  When people are comfortable with themselves...happy in their own skin...they demand a certain amount of respect from others automatically.  Allowing yourself to be treated this way...in front of your children no less...is a HUGE sign of low self esteem and self-hate.  Would you ever allow your husband to mistreat your children?  Of course not!  And why?  Because you love them.  The same holds true for ourselves. 

 

Take it from someone who has been there...being alone and struggling to make ends meet is a joy when you are with those that love, care, and respect you.  Someone else mentioned that your kids will end up resenting you later for staying with someone who treats you this way.  I agree.  Right now, they don't know any better...but someday they will and they will either go one of two ways....they will either allow themselves to be treated the same way...or they will refuse to let anyone even close enough to hurt them.  Either way, you are teaching them that being degraded and humilitated is ok and it's the norm.  It's not.  Get out while you can.  There are tons of government programs available to help single moms. 

 
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February 17, 2008, 4:37 am PST

Seeking Help

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My husband says the reason he has not so much as touched me in the last 7 of the 14 years we have been married  is because he is not attracted to fat women. I was thin up until 9 years ago when I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia and had to leave work. I am on disability. A year and a half ago I had lap band surgery and have lost 70 lbs. Now my husband has decided that he just doesn't love me anymore. I do not get much money for disability so I cannot support myself. I have talked to a attorney and my husband has everything worked out to where I will get next to nothing. I am deeply depressed and feel like my marriage is making my health problems even worse. Due to chronic fatigue syndrome I have gone from someone with a very clean house to very unkept and I can't get anyone to help me. My husband's friend says that I'm just "a fat lazy bitch". My husband agreed with him. 
Have you contacted Social Services?  Are you currently on disability?  If you are, and have been for atleast one year you should be on Medicare.  If you income is low, perhaps you qualify for Medicaid.  There are several organizations out there that will come into your home and help you for a  very small fee because that are also paid by medicaid.  Call your local Social Services Office for help.
 
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February 17, 2008, 5:30 am PST

His Insecurities

This husband apparently has his own insecurities (just look at him) and men like him have to make others feel terrible about themselves because they see themselves by their own words. The wife needs to get a steel rod and stick it up her backbone and turn around all the harsh words right back at him. The wife is beautiful but has lost herself in her husbands words and until she believes she is beautiful and loves herself more than her husband she will stay and put up with his crap. To the wife ~ take 3 months, stash some monies and pack a bag then when its time, RUN, not walk out of this mans life. What your children are seeing is what they are learning and if you want your daughter to have a husband like yours she will get what you have taught her to accept. Daughters gravitate to the men that most act like their fathers.

 
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February 17, 2008, 5:35 am PST

Monkey See, Monkey Do

If I was his wife I would get out ASAP. Nobody deserves to be disrespected the way he is disrespecting her especially in front of the kids. He is only setting an example on how the kids can treat not only their significant others when they are old enough, but how to disrespect their mother. It is hard enough to raise kids to be respectful, but when you have a bad influence around it makes it even harder. I agree with the folks here on the board. BUDDY HAVE YOU LOOKED IN A MIRROR LATELY (your no George Clooney).
 
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February 17, 2008, 6:17 am PST

Bully Husband

It always amazes me as to how much women are willing to put up with just to have a man. 

 

No, I don't believe there is anything worth salvaging in this relationship.  The children are being shown a terrible example of how men treat women, and this will stay with them as they get older.  

 

This woman stays with him because she has low self-esteem and is incredibly needy and insecure. She needs to get a backbone and move on.  If he wants to motivate her to lose weight, this is not the way to do it.  Perhaps she should start pasting pictures of  athletic and buff men around the house.  A large beer belly is about as unsexy as it gets.

 

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February 17, 2008, 6:19 am PST

Get out ,run

This  women should run as fast as she can ,she is young and can have a life with her daughter Love is not for him is not enough she must love her self first , I can tell  you first hand he is not going to change after  50 years I know  , Dr Phil all ways says the worst thing in staying is staying one more day

she will be sitting there in her old age saying she should have left when she was young and could have started a new life it is easy when you are in your thirties or forties but not as easy in your sixties                     

DONT STAT RUN IF NOT FOR YOU FOR YOUR DAUGHTER Bonlady

 
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February 17, 2008, 6:21 am PST

Another narrowminded macho jerk!

   Where do these nonunderstanding  and nonsupporting  jerks come from????  She has problems enough without this husband treating her as weight on his perceptions of love and life expections.

He needs more help than she does.

 
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February 17, 2008, 6:22 am PST

It won't be easy Karen.

Karen,

Having lived in your shoes for a long time, I know it's easier for everyone else to say "get out"  and "get a back bone".   I have lived in your shoes before (I am HAPPILY divorced for 5.5 years after nearly a 19 year marriage to the same type of man). 

There are different forms of abuse - physical, sexual, emotional, verbal, psychological.  You're suffering from at least 4 of those!  YOU DO NOT DESERVE to live this way!  Unfortunately no matter what your husband says or promises, he will NEVER change.  It's a control factor that he has over you.  He has completely destroyed your self-confidence and self-esteem.  If you ever decide to leave him, please understand that it will take a long time to get over hearing his voice in whatever you do or wear.    I still hear his voice telling me how fat, ugly, lazy, and stupid I am.  But you know what, you CAN do this! 

Karen, you need a support system in your corner - those who love you for who you are and those you can trust - friends, family, co workers.   If Dr. Phil does read these posts and if he wants, I would certainly like to be a supporter in your corner.   REMEMBER KAREN - YOU ARE NOT WHAT HE SAYS!  He is trying to continue to control your life, emotions, thoughts and turn you into what he wants you to be.   Karen, you need to be yourself. 
 
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February 17, 2008, 7:00 am PST

AMEN to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It always amazes me as to how much women are willing to put up with just to have a man. 

 

No, I don't believe there is anything worth salvaging in this relationship.  The children are being shown a terrible example of how men treat women, and this will stay with them as they get older.  

 

This woman stays with him because she has low self-esteem and is incredibly needy and insecure. She needs to get a backbone and move on.  If he wants to motivate her to lose weight, this is not the way to do it.  Perhaps she should start pasting pictures of  athletic and buff men around the house.  A large beer belly is about as unsexy as it gets.

I also think she should kick his sorry butt to the curb and get a life without all the drama for herself and for her daughter.  She would relize how a happy a life can be without having to put up with someones' crap 24/7, they always say what goes around comes around, maybe he will find someone who treats him the way he has treated her and see just how it feels. Her daughter does not need to hear and see this kind of behavior she will think later in life that it is ok to let a man treat her like crap.
 
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February 17, 2008, 7:41 am PST

Change must be done

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To all the responders who haven't even seen the show yet, it doesn't get any better than the trailer. For I was there to experience the pain of karen (my wife). I had no idea I was that bad, for people don't video tape their lives, and go over them at night and see their mistakes and correct them the next day. I would like to apoligize to Karen and let you know that every action has a reaction, and no one knows what we are really going through in our lives, but that is no excuse for the way I have treated her or other people in my life. We are currently "BOTH" getting help, thanks to Dr. Phil and his wonderful staff. And as time goes on hopefully we can fix our marriage, but it will take some time, and alot of apologies from me. Please give us a chance to heal instead of throwing salt on the wounds. For now  " I " know how she feels after reading your comments.

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If all of this helps you to change, then I can forgive all of the times that we have suffered it.  You know, family can be a powerful tool.  The support , closeness and love that Karen has from her family is what you hate most about us.  We don't tell her what to do in her own life, but we are listening.  You have the most beautiful family and you have not been able to see it out of selfishness.  It's okay!  As long as you see it now, while the kids are small enough not to have it effect them.  Your kids are the most beautiful miracles in life that anyone could dream for.  Even myself.  Let's stop this madness and become a loving family like it should be, that way you can have the extra support that you need too.  As it stands now, you're not getting it!    You're family also needs to be supportive of Karen instead of ridiculing her the way you do.  They do not help matters because they are only supportive of you and what you are telling them.  Fix it!  You can do it, I know that you can.  Take the shame and throw it in the garbage for good!
 
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