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Created on : Thursday, February 14, 2008, 03:51:34 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/20/08) Dr. Phil takes on a couple whose story will shock you. Karen says she’s tired of being degraded and controlled by Rick, her husband of six years. She says he calls her “fat pig” and “fat whore,” criticizes her makeup, makes fat jokes and puts photos of nearly naked women on their computer and exercise machine to motivate her. Karen says if she tries to get close to him, he pushes her away and says, “Don’t even touch me until you’re under 200 pounds.” Rick says when he married Karen, she was within his standards, but now she definitely isn’t. He says he’s just trying to motivate his wife, but says it’s a good thing when they fight physically because it’s good exercise “when the beast wails her arms.” Karen says she puts up with the mental abuse because they have two children, and as crazy as it sounds, she still loves him. Is there a chance to salvage this relationship? Tell us what you think!

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February 17, 2008, 9:27 am PST

definite couselling for both

CONGRATULATION ON THE 1000 SHOW, WOW !

Dr Phil and Robyn, thank you for the show. I know this is the Eye Opener for a lot of people watching. I took a course on the Basic Human Behaviour, the Human Mind. and it goes on .......which taught acceptable or non acceptable behaviour on people....

 without couselling people will not able to see things through in a positive way. I have neighbors one is 83 and one is 65 yrs old. They are both are controlling freaks, likes to critize, judge, fault finder and more. Their wives suffered a horrible experienced. These individuals dont believed in couselling. Their children did took couselling. Unfortunately, it doesn't make much difference in their life. It's interesting how these families can hide in a mask all their lives; thinking everything is okey when it's not. In these  families I'm talking about, it is the continuing saga of horrible experienced. Unless of course one member of the family step up and break the cycle of abuse. Im croxxing my fingers that day will come for the sake of their grandchildren.
 
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February 17, 2008, 9:28 am PST

CHILDREN NEED MORE

 Leave him.  Now.
You may love him; he may "love" you.
HOWEVER, you have children.  This makes all the difference.
They need and deserve more than what they are getting here from this toxic relationship!
Children learn from example---bad and good.
Children need hope.  They need positives---24 hours a day and 7 days per week.
I speak as an educator of more than 30years.  Don't let your kids end up with their minds and spirits weak or destroyed from your fear(s).  It is not the right plan for these children!
YOU CAN CHANGE THIS.  CHOOSE TO CHANGE IT NOW! 
 
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February 17, 2008, 9:31 am PST

I knew this guy

I was married to a guy like this, he's dead now.   I believe his meaness ate him up.   Same stuff, "you're fat, ugly,stupid.  The kids would be better off, etc."  So I finally woke up, got out, he got another wife, very pretty, who started to gain weight, same stuff, the only thing that saved her was her job took her away from him for several days each month.  They had no kids for her to worry about and then he died.  Oh yeah , he too had a double chin and a belly  the way bully husband looks from the picture.  (I bet he goes on a strict diet so he won't look that way on  TV.)  I hope she dumps him, she will realize that it wasn't love, but fear that he may be right that held her.       Been there, done that.

 
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February 17, 2008, 9:58 am PST

Hard to lose weight....

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hello there..I am really and truthly understand feeling of this woman.  because my husband did same things with me..after having baby I oput on weight...and I was around 230 pound but I am 5'10'' . I was big   but not the most ugly. Now I am weighting 177 and I am still not good enoght for him.

I am modeling sometimes. And for him it not enoght to acceped me as a good looking woman . I am not perfect. But I dont think I should to have a bonus from him. We never was closer seance I get pregnant. So...I dont think something really wrong with me or with this woman on Dr.Phill show.he has big problem. So dear..Be smart. And movied on. Make yourself happy. Make yourself healthy. Dont think somebody else can do it for you. Just you. and this is your life. Sorry for my English!

I am from Ukraine. But now I am in Canada! Good luck!

 

I'm sorry for your weight problems.  177 lbs for a girl your height is NOT fat- it took 9 months to put on the weight, and it takes 9 months to take it off. Some of it may never come off- but you are who you are. Its important to be healthy, not abused.  If you're good looking enough to model- there you go. He doesn't know what he has.

 

You're right, this is HIS problem and he has no right to try to put that on you.  Calling people names is what they did in grade school- were adults, lets evolve and BE adults.  Abuse isn't love-so why settle for it?

 
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February 17, 2008, 10:03 am PST

What is love?

I did get out after 25 years - I was lucky to be able to support myself well, but still stayed all those years.

I learned of many more abuses that had been happening all those years as I went through the divorce.

I consider myself lucky that he will have nothing to do with me! because I still feel this love thing for him.

It can't be love. 

What is it? 

How do I get rid of it?

I have been out for 10 years.

 
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February 17, 2008, 10:33 am PST

Is this for real?

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To all the responders who haven't even seen the show yet, it doesn't get any better than the trailer. For I was there to experience the pain of karen (my wife). I had no idea I was that bad, for people don't video tape their lives, and go over them at night and see their mistakes and correct them the next day. I would like to apoligize to Karen and let you know that every action has a reaction, and no one knows what we are really going through in our lives, but that is no excuse for the way I have treated her or other people in my life. We are currently "BOTH" getting help, thanks to Dr. Phil and his wonderful staff. And as time goes on hopefully we can fix our marriage, but it will take some time, and alot of apologies from me. Please give us a chance to heal instead of throwing salt on the wounds. For now  " I " know how she feels after reading your comments.

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Is this poster the real husband in this show? Or just some guy playing along?

I honestly hope it is the husband and he and Karen are getting help they both need.

 

Imagine being a kid with these conversations going on around you?? The sons would end up doing that to women and the daughters would expect to be treated that way. I would hope you want to be better role models for your children.

 

You never talk to you spouse or ex-spouse that way when the kids are around, they learn by what they see and hear. No matter what they are still part of each of you, so when you insult one of the partners you are also insulting your child as well!

 

Grow up!

 
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February 17, 2008, 10:47 am PST

Is this for real?

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To all the responders who haven't even seen the show yet, it doesn't get any better than the trailer. For I was there to experience the pain of karen (my wife). I had no idea I was that bad, for people don't video tape their lives, and go over them at night and see their mistakes and correct them the next day. I would like to apoligize to Karen and let you know that every action has a reaction, and no one knows what we are really going through in our lives, but that is no excuse for the way I have treated her or other people in my life. We are currently "BOTH" getting help, thanks to Dr. Phil and his wonderful staff. And as time goes on hopefully we can fix our marriage, but it will take some time, and alot of apologies from me. Please give us a chance to heal instead of throwing salt on the wounds. For now  " I " know how she feels after reading your comments.

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Is this poster the real husband or someone pretending to be him?

 

If it is the real husband I hope you both get a ton of therapy to stop behaving like this. How can you speak to your wife, whom you supposedly love like that? How can you speak to your daughter like that?

Do you expect she will pick a good mate later in life when you have told her she's not good enough from the age of 4?

 

Children learn to live what they grew up with, so if your belittling your wife, the boy will be doing the same thing to his wife/girlfriends. Your beautiful daughter will pick men who pick on her and verbally abuse her too, cause that's what she's use to.

 

Don't show the children this behaviour. Show they love, kindness, affection, not anger or verbal abuse.

 

Grow up!

 
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February 17, 2008, 10:59 am PST

bully husband

I was one of those wives bullied by her husband (back in 80's).  "Lose weight or get a divorce"......"I want you 140 and on a diet".  Looked at "beautiful" women while I was with him and would whistle at them.  Gawk at other women in front of me.  (and completely turn around to gawk at them more as they passed him).  His bullying was not only to me.  He badgered each of our 3 girls about something.  When I FINALLY left him (after 8.25 years of marriage and a year after a physical fight where I got 2 black eyes and the military really didn't do anything about it).....my 12 year old lost 30 pounds, my 6 yr old quit wetting her bed, and my 4 year old quit sucking her thumb.....all within THREE months of leaving and moving out of Hawaii to Arizona.  I was too busy parenting to bother with ME....but WE were happier....MUCH happier after the initial adjustment.  Sure, it's difficult, but you get through it.  I am, just now in my life, caring for ME.  I am 110 pounds overweight (and that's 50 pounds heavier than he ever saw me)....and having gastric bypass next month to HELP me lose my weight.  But, I had to finally get PAST all the belittling of myself and listening to his badgering in my mind over the years in order to do this.

 

LEAVE while you're "alive" to leave.  Because, even if you lose weight, he will find SOMETHING else to control you with.  He is a control freak.  And, he's using the child to tantalize the wife.  That is not LOVE and it doesn't matter how much you love him, you have to leave for the child's sake!....and yours too!  He's using mental sabotage to manipulate you (and, in the future.....your child).  And, YOU are teaching your daughter that it's ok to be bullied by a man.  IT IS NOT OK.  YOU should set the example and leave.  Struggle....but leave!  (And, do not belittle her dad to her.......you can say all you can on the side to others...but not in front of her).  Be the bigger person in the upcoming events.  You can stand tall and you CAN DO IT!  I held down 3-5 jobs in the first few years until things settled down....but I did it.

 
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February 17, 2008, 11:55 am PST

Sooo Frustrating

Why would Karen put up with such behavior?  Karen needs to reach deep within and find her self esteem,  stand up and be stronger for both she and the children.  Love doesn't destroy one person in order to boost the other's ego, Rick must have a pretty demented ego which would explain why he feels he must treat his wife this way.  The days of living under a bully husband's thumb should be long gone....  The children deserve much more!  The excuses for staying with him should pale in comparison to what is best for Karen and the children.....She should hit the door standing upright and proud with children in hand!

 
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February 17, 2008, 12:40 pm PST

What a bully!

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I think he LIKES her fat, that way, she wouldn't be attractive enough to leave him for someone else.  That's why he's so emotionally abusive, I think that he knows at some level that being abusive is going to drive her to eat more, and keep her fat and at home.  If she DID leave him, how many supermodels would he REALLY attract?  This is just a mirror of his own self dissatisfaction and he's not man enough to deal with his self esteem problems.  So he makes Karen deal with it, what a loser.

I agree, what a jerk! Give him a taste of his own medicine! Get rid of the guy, build up your self-esteem

and lose the weight and find the kids a new HOT daddy!! Ha!

 
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