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Created on : Thursday, February 14, 2008, 03:51:34 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/20/08) Dr. Phil takes on a couple whose story will shock you. Karen says she’s tired of being degraded and controlled by Rick, her husband of six years. She says he calls her “fat pig” and “fat whore,” criticizes her makeup, makes fat jokes and puts photos of nearly naked women on their computer and exercise machine to motivate her. Karen says if she tries to get close to him, he pushes her away and says, “Don’t even touch me until you’re under 200 pounds.” Rick says when he married Karen, she was within his standards, but now she definitely isn’t. He says he’s just trying to motivate his wife, but says it’s a good thing when they fight physically because it’s good exercise “when the beast wails her arms.” Karen says she puts up with the mental abuse because they have two children, and as crazy as it sounds, she still loves him. Is there a chance to salvage this relationship? Tell us what you think!

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February 20, 2008, 2:26 am PST

What about the children???

I am sad to see any wife in a abusive relationship but with that being said it is by her own choice. What about the children and the abuse that they are suffering??? They have no choice. This is why the cycle isn't going to be broken. As a mother she should be protecting her children first and formost. What is she saying to her children? It's ok for a man to treat you like crap? If your own father is allowed to do so it must be the way life is. As a mother in my opinon you are abusing your children also by letting this go on for aslong has you have...
 

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February 20, 2008, 6:27 am PST

Judging Others.

Rick,

 

Read between the lines.  Here's a Bible verse you need to read:

 

Matthew 7:1-3

 

Judging Others

 

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged.  For in the same way you judge others, you will be judge, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 

 

"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay NO ATTENTION to the plank in your own eye?

 

Rick doesn't just have plank in his eyes, he has big logs!!!!

 

 
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February 20, 2008, 6:34 am PST

This Was My Family

As embarrassing as it is to admit, this was my family growing up.

 

As for Karen, if this guy doesn't make a complete and immediate turnaround you'd best be headed for divorce court. 

 

My experience growing up has impacted my life in more ways than I can count. For a long time, I felt it was not okay to stand up for myself or my boyfriend would leave me. That was until I dated a nice, normal guy. I was shocked when he wasn't even mad that I argued back about something in our relationship I thought was unfair. My sister and I have both had issues with eating disorders, fortunately we both realized it before it got too bad, but we both know where that message came from. We both fear marraige.

 

It wasn't that long ago that I was thinking about my dad and thinking that he was just never meant to be a parent- if something had happened to my mom, I don't know WHAT would've happened to my sister and I, and I don't even want to think about it. My dad has tried to talk to me the way he talks to Mom and I pretty much told him to take a long walk off a short pier.

 

 

 
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February 20, 2008, 6:48 am PST

Ditch the Loser

        This guy might be okay after a few years of intensive therapy and if he spent the rest of his life trying to make up to his wife.  But, the chance of that happening are slim to none.  My hunch is if Karen asks him to leave, she'll lose a lot of weight.  People like Rick drag women down and women always go to food for comfort.  Well, not always but usually.

He says "if kids weren't involved, he'd be gone?"  He should go.  His poison is infecting his family and they'd all be better off without him.  He is a very damaged person who doesn't have a clue about how deep his internal damage is.
 
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February 20, 2008, 6:49 am PST

Run!!!

Karen, no matter what your weight is or how you think you look, run as fast as you can to the nearest lawyer!!! That (big, fat) idiot that you are married to needs to be as far away from you and your kids as possible!!  His negative influence on your kids is very unhealthy (more unhealthy than not having a father figure in their lives). You CAN do it on your own because you will have self-respect and peace of mind once you get that idiot out of your house and out of your life!!  Please seek help from Dr. Phil and the organizations available to you and your children and leave that loudmouth, arrogant, overweight idiot in the dust!!! You can do MUCH better!!!  Taking the first step will be hard, but once you do, you will realize that you can be happy again, probably happier than you've been in a LONG time!
 
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February 20, 2008, 6:51 am PST

I've been there...it's very difficult to find your way out

I was married to a  man who  began cheating on me  3 weeks after we returned from our honeymoom.  He did and said all the same things about my weight, cleaning the house...everything.  He and his brothers once said before any of us were married that if my wife got fat I'd divorce her.  I thought they were just making jokes.  My husband actually took food out of my hand at a wedding reception and said he said I was fat enough and that I didn't need the dinner role.  He controlled everything I did, but he had one affair after another.  He also refused to have sex with me but would tell our friends and family that we were trying to have a family.  It was all very depressing for me.  I am so glad we never had children.  I left him after 4 years of marriage, following his decision to take a vacation with another woman.  Shortly after I left him, the husband of his girlfriend was found shot to death in their family van.  She was later convicted of conspiracy to comit murder.  I was never so happy that I left.  I am now about to finish my PhD and start a teaching/research position.  I have moved on and have been remarried for 11 years.  No one has the right to treat anyone like this "Bully".  My exhusband  learned this behavior from his dad who treated his mom with disrespect.  I absolutely think that this behavior is learned and those kids are suffering.  Sure is wife is suffering but they are both teaching the kids to be or put up with this behavior depending on their gender.  They need to divorce.  Life will go on and life is too short for all the drama and abuse. 
 

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February 20, 2008, 7:12 am PST

leave him

He would have  not lasted 5 minutes with me.  I am like Dr Phil, where are the mirrors in his house.  I cannot beleive anyone would be caught dead kissing him the girl he had an affair  with must have been totally hard up!!!   She(the wife) needs to get on with her life, there are better men out there, and no one should put up with that kind of abuse.  I would not let him near my children, he will just abuse them if she is not there!  I don't think she will leave him, which disturbs me, I am afraid if she stays it will stay the same.  He did not seem to ever think he was wrong about anything.  He should read the message boards to see how many women think he is the one WRONG

 
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February 20, 2008, 7:29 am PST

Can He Learn? and Her Power

 I am an incurable optimist so I must ask - before making a decision - can he learn?  does he think his behavior is a problem?  if yes - and he really wants to keep her - maybe there is hope.  But she should move out while he is changing the way he thinks of her - which he will need professional help to do.
Second - I have seen the power dynamic in most abusive relationships - there may be a point where he tells her he needs her, loves her, etc.  If this is true, she needs to totally get unhooked from that little bit of positive attention - and needs professional help to change the negative way she thinks of herself - otherwise there is a very good chance she will pick the same kind of guy again.  I wish both the best of luck.  And save the sanity of children at any cost.
 
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February 20, 2008, 7:31 am PST

13 CHILDREN DIE ON THE STREETS OF AMERICA EVERYDAY

In America there is a common misconception that children runaway from home because they are societal delinquents who want to be free of authority. The media depicts homeless and street kids as "rebels without a cause", as children who have no regard for society, who have no dreams and no aspirations for life but to get high.  

 

We know this portrayal of homeless and street kids to be false. In fact we know that 90% of children who run away have encountered mental, physical, emotional, and/ or sexual abuse. No child wants to live on the streets. No child wants to have to beg, steal, sell drugs, and/ or themselves just to survive.

 

More than half of the children on the streets are still under the age of 15.  Unable to legally work, these kids get involved in criminal activity just to survive.  Based on current estimates, there are more than one and a half million children, teenagers and young adults trying to survive on the U.S. streets today.  Children now make up 27 percent of the fastest growing segment of the U.S. homeless population.

 

For more info:  www.turnpurple.org 

 

The Turn Purple Campaign is the nations' first campaign against child abuse and the resulting problem of youth homelessness. 

 

 

 

DON'T RUNAWAY - TELL SOMEONE YOU CAN TRUST

 

 

Though harder to spot, emotional abuse is easier to deny.  But just as physical and sexual abuse have signposts to mark their presence, emotional abuse, being a systematic attack on one's sense of self, has common traits.  Just as physical and sexual abuse come in degrees of severity, emotional abuse runs the gamut of intensity and damage.

 

Anyone who had the misfortune of being raised by a parent who is cruel, vicious, vindictive, calculating, manipulative, a liar, cheat, selfish or neglectful may benefit from reading some of my favorite books on the subject: 

 

 

Emotional Blackmail:  When the People in Your Life Use Fear, Obligation and Guilt to Manipulate You by Susan Forward AND Why It Is Always About You?  The Seven Deadly Sins of Narcissism by Sandy Hotchkiss 

 

Understanding the Borderline (Parent) Mother Helping Her Children Transcend the Intense, Unpredictable and Volatile Relationship by Christine Ann Lawson OR Surviving a Borderline Parent:  How to Heal Your Childhood Wounds & Build Trust, Boundaries and Self-Esteem by Kimberlee Roth and Freda Friedman OR The Angry Heart by Joseph Santoro and Ronald Cohen

 

A Child Called It:  One Child's Courage to Survive by David Pelzer OR Whatever Mother Says by Wensley Clarkson OR Switching Time by Richard Baer

 

How to Journal for Therapy:

http://arar.essortment.com/therapyjournali_repu.htm

 

Healing Anxiety and Depression (7 types of anxiety and depression) by Daniel Amen and Lisa Routh OR Getting Help:  The Complete and Authoritative Guide to Self-Assessment and Treatment of Mental Health Problems by Jeffrey Wood

 

 

If you tell your problem to someone that you can trust and still feel unhappy, unsafe, or uncomfortable, or if you don't trust anyone that you know, then you should CALL these numbers until you speak with someone you can trust:

 

National Runaway Switchboard  1-800-RUNAWAY or 1-800-621-4000

Covenant House Nine Line 1-800-999-9999

Child HELP USA 1-800-4ACHILD

Stand Up for Kids 1-800-365-4KID

Volunteers of America  www.voa.org

 

 

If you are unhappy or uncomfortable with something in your life it is up to you to change your situation and tell someone that you can trust. 

 

 

Hope it helps!

 

 
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February 20, 2008, 7:35 am PST

02/20 Bully Husband

dont worry karen, when your daughter grows up and marrys someone who treats her the same way your husband treats you, and your son grows up and treats his wife and your grandkids that way too,  you'll know why
 
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