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Created on : Thursday, February 14, 2008, 03:51:34 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/20/08) Dr. Phil takes on a couple whose story will shock you. Karen says she’s tired of being degraded and controlled by Rick, her husband of six years. She says he calls her “fat pig” and “fat whore,” criticizes her makeup, makes fat jokes and puts photos of nearly naked women on their computer and exercise machine to motivate her. Karen says if she tries to get close to him, he pushes her away and says, “Don’t even touch me until you’re under 200 pounds.” Rick says when he married Karen, she was within his standards, but now she definitely isn’t. He says he’s just trying to motivate his wife, but says it’s a good thing when they fight physically because it’s good exercise “when the beast wails her arms.” Karen says she puts up with the mental abuse because they have two children, and as crazy as it sounds, she still loves him. Is there a chance to salvage this relationship? Tell us what you think!

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February 20, 2008, 2:03 pm PST

He can't perform

Besides all his other faults, it is my belief that this bully is unable to perform sexually, thus the excuses that he won't have sex with her until she is under 200 pounds. She did lose to under 200 pounds, and he's still not having sex with her. Bet you my next paycheck that he can't perform sexually! What a coverup. What a loser!.

 
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February 20, 2008, 2:04 pm PST

02/20 Bully Husband

Is this guy for real???? What a complete idiot! Karen... If you think you are staying for the kids then look at your husband and see what your son is going to do to any potential mate in his future. Your daughter is going to grow up and marry a man like him or worse. Never stay together just for the kids because you are only infecting them with his toxic behavior. As Dr. Phil has said before, children are sponges and they soak up their surroundings. Get the strength and leave this jerk!
 
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February 20, 2008, 2:04 pm PST

Man What a Bully

Great show Dr. Phil.  What a shocking turn of the tables for the husband.  I had to laugh when he stated he came on the show to "help" his wife then realizing they were there because of him.    His reasons for staying are all so wrong.   If he had any respect at all for anyone besides himself, he should divorce her and give her a chance of finding someone that loves her for who she is.

 
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February 20, 2008, 2:06 pm PST

LEAVE HIM!!!!!!!!!!!

I just watched the show and saw this couple and I was shocked at how crazy this man is. This just proves to me that there are crazy people in the world. I can not understand how he could watch the tapes of himself and see nothing wrong with the way he was acting towards his wife. As for her she does need to grow a backbone. She says she is staying for her children, but as a mother myself the first time my husband called our child a bitch I would be packing our bags. She is doing more harm to those children by staying than she ever could by leaving him. Their daughter will grow up to think that it is ok for a man to talk to her the way her father talks to her mother and their son will grow up to act just like his father who is an abuser. I don't feel sorry for the man and woman my heart goes out to their poor children. Child protective services needs to get involved and get those kids out if their mother can't grow a backbone and get them out herself. As a parent you are supposed to protect your child and this couple is not protecting their children they are both abusing them. I am just so outraged by this story!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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February 20, 2008, 2:06 pm PST

Hello,

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Not impossible.  What Karen needs is a husband who loves her no matter what.  I know Karen personally and I won't reveal too much, but she is a wonderful wife to this IDIOT!  She does not deserve his treatment.  She's putting up with it just for the kid's sake, which I feel to be for the wrong reason.  If they grow up to witness this treatment throughout their lives, they too will inherit the disease, which is not fair to them.

 

 If there are any single, decent, honest, not necessarilty good looking men out there who needs a nurturing wife, she is the one!  Her kids are so well mannered and adorable, it would be hard not to love them.  Even if not your own.  Believe me, there is some lonely man out there that would appreciate the kind of life that she can give.  She needs a rescue!

If you are Karen's friend I hope you can tell her that there are some of us who've been there and hope she gets the message that for her kids, its already becoming 'too late' They can't help but be affected by this life and  I hope she finds the strength to get the help she needs. If she IS doing it for her kids, its not doing them one second of good. I agree with the other poster who said that Karen should work on herself FIRST, before finding another Rick. Thats what  will happen if she doesn't find the strength  to help herself.
 
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February 20, 2008, 2:10 pm PST

Narcissistic Personality Disorder

I was so angry at this man it took all my strength not to hurl my mug of tea at the TV. But I was impressed with Dr. Phil's analysis of this man as being narcissistic. My father in law has Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD). This is a mental illness whereby someone needs to delude themselves 24/7, to puff themselves up, or else they may commit suicide. There's no reasoning with someone with this disorder, for their brain's genuinely screw up reality in their favor. This is why the man could so boldly declare all the awful things he'd done to his wife without a hint of contrition or remorse. His brain justified the things he had said & done, to match up with his version of reality. It was only as the show progressed & he realized that he wasn't in favor with the audience or Dr Phil that he showed any kind of remorse. But it wasn't true remorse. The important thing in his mind is to be liked & respected & he will automatically say what he has to. If he can't get away with saying certain things, he'll say something else. People with NPD are arrogant & will only associate with people they believe "worthy" of them, yet like Dr Phil pointed out, at the root of this condition is total, complete insecurity. My father in law abuses me when I'm around him. He's endangered my life, yelled at me in restaurants, belittled me, put me down repeatedly. When my husband confronted him my FIL refused to apologize & even went so far as to say that the events didn't even happen! He's a very sick man. My husband & I haven't visited with him now in almost a year & I dont care if I ever see him again. Here's the punch line: my father in law is....a psychologist! So be careful who your mental health providers are. Check their background if possible.

 

 

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February 20, 2008, 2:12 pm PST

Kick him to the curb

Ok, there is absolutely no reason for this woman to put up with this loser.  I understand Dr. Phil wants to give relationships a chance to work but there is no hope for this particular relationship.  I was disappointed that Dr. Phil did not recommend what the rest of America was thinking - that woman needs to get out and get out NOW.  She needs to move on with her life and start searching for someone who can actually love her and her kids.  Not only do I think she should dump him forthwith, she should fight tooth and nail for sole custody  to save her kids from being poisoned and emotionally abused.  I would suggest that she take her kids and move to a shelter if necessary to get away from this guy. 
 
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February 20, 2008, 2:13 pm PST

Karen, please read this

Karen,

 

I was watching the show today and thought I could be looking in the mirror 10 years ago.  Please understand that I am not a proponent of divorce.  You look so beaten down, and I can imagine how you feel because that is how I felt when I was married.

 

YOU can get out and be okay!!  There was a time when I believed (because I had been told so often) that I couldn't manage my children without him.  He was WRONG!!!  My children and I are better off today because I got myself un-isolated (like Dr. Phil suggested) and realized that I was a good, competent, capable person.  If he isn't willing to change, you owe it to yourself and your children to survive and thrive without him.

 

It isn't easy.  5 years later I am still working part time and going back to school to get a degree so that I can  provide for them, but all of us are doing great.  At the end of the day, I can take a deep breath and be out from under the wrath that I lived with for so long.  If he can't or won't change, there is still hope!

 
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February 20, 2008, 2:14 pm PST

you are so right!!!!!

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I just don't understand!  It is just amazing to me how many men out there think the things they do are completely and totally acceptable, but then those very same behaviors are absolutely unacceptable for their significant others, i.e. body weight, infidelity, family responsibilities, drinking alcohol, going out with friends, etc.  Can somebody please explain to me what is going on in their heads???  I am just astonished that guy from today's show dares to even utter out loud one word about his wife's weight.  What is it he does not see in his very own mirror???  And you know what?  He also really believes his infidelity was justified for him to be involved with, but I'm here to tell you, if the situation were reversed and she commited adultry......you and I both know he would act like a childish spoiled brat in retaliation.  I've run into many men who truly have this blind misguided double-standard belief.   And they really do believe in their heads they are warrented and justified.  If you were to ask these types of men within a logical intelligent discussion, 'why's it okay for you but not for your wife,' they would very seriously respond with their own stupid dilusional justification reply.  I just don't understand!  Can somebody explain this to me please? 
There is such a double standard out there!  The husband can grow a huge beerbelly but he expects his wife to look like she did on her wedding day.  The wife and the husband can both work full-time, but it is HER job to do the housework. The list goes on and on. What are guys like this thinking?  That a woman should be so grateful to be married to them that they will comply with every one of their unrealistic orders? And if they were to be questioned about the double standard you would get a blank look and a HUH???
 
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February 20, 2008, 2:14 pm PST

are you kidding me?

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The man was not asking for help for himself, he thinks good, he was asking help  in how to get his wife to do what he says,  and then in his world everything will be right.
oh come on!  You and I both know it was the LEAST the guy deserved w/ Dr. Phil trying to bring him into some sort of sense of reality he clearly hadn't lived in for God knows how long.  He had been abusing his wife for years, so I have absolutely no sympathy for the 1 hour berrading Dr. Phil gave him vs the year-after-year constant vicious BS he dealt out to his wife.  I can't believe you shed any sympathy for a guy who continued to try to justify his actions until the VERY END of the show  when he finally admitted his ways may not be the right way to go.  YA THINK?
 
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