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Created on : Thursday, February 14, 2008, 03:51:34 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/20/08) Dr. Phil takes on a couple whose story will shock you. Karen says she’s tired of being degraded and controlled by Rick, her husband of six years. She says he calls her “fat pig” and “fat whore,” criticizes her makeup, makes fat jokes and puts photos of nearly naked women on their computer and exercise machine to motivate her. Karen says if she tries to get close to him, he pushes her away and says, “Don’t even touch me until you’re under 200 pounds.” Rick says when he married Karen, she was within his standards, but now she definitely isn’t. He says he’s just trying to motivate his wife, but says it’s a good thing when they fight physically because it’s good exercise “when the beast wails her arms.” Karen says she puts up with the mental abuse because they have two children, and as crazy as it sounds, she still loves him. Is there a chance to salvage this relationship? Tell us what you think!

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February 20, 2008, 2:38 pm PST

You kidding me!

Life is short, until you lose someone you never understand what life is about and changing your ways. No one deserves being treated any other way but wonderful. Don't waste your time with anyone who doesn't treat you the way you treat others. There are plenty of wonderful men and women out there, instead of wasting your time with this jerk Dr. Phil, you should be teaching this woman how to take control of herself and get away from him and when she least expects it, she will meet a man who loves her for herself and will do everything to make her happy. Why are you wasting a program on this marriage, he is a disgusting individual and deserves a woman that treats him the way he treats others. I can't even watch this anymore, it is ridiculous. This marriage should end before something serious happens, he will never change because he doesn't want to, he just says what he wants people to hear.

 
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February 20, 2008, 2:39 pm PST

If it isn't working, try something else

He just doesn't get it, instead of putting his hand in the blender you should try putting his head in the blender.  It couldn't get more scrambled could it?
 
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February 20, 2008, 2:39 pm PST

ugleeeeeeee

 OK....Let me get this straight...
This guy(?) with the lisp and high voice who can barely fit into his chair is putting down his wife??  He should be thanking the Lord that someone like her can stand to be seen with him.  She could do so much better.  She's not doing her daughter any favors staying in this marriage.  Her daughter needs a much better father figure so she can grow up and choose her own husband wisely.
 

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February 20, 2008, 2:40 pm PST

Everyone will tell you this.....

He is NOT an attractive, appealling man,he has the personality of road kill. YOU CAN DO BETTER> GET OUT OF THERE. It will hurt for a bit, but you will heal  and blossom with out him If you stay, you deserve him00but your poor children dont.
 
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February 20, 2008, 2:41 pm PST

No hope for this couple

It doesn't take a licensed Psychologist (or unlicensed for that matter!)  to see this is a classic case of a Narcissist Personality Disorder married to a Dependant Personality Disorder.  Intensive marital therapy is the only way for them to even have a prayer of learning how to live with each other...notice I didn't say have a healthy relationship.  The husband was so right when he said it's how you're raised...I think both their parents, for lack of a better phrase, screwed up! 
 
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February 20, 2008, 2:42 pm PST

02/20 Bully Husband

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I think he LIKES her fat, that way, she wouldn't be attractive enough to leave him for someone else.  That's why he's so emotionally abusive, I think that he knows at some level that being abusive is going to drive her to eat more, and keep her fat and at home.  If she DID leave him, how many supermodels would he REALLY attract?  This is just a mirror of his own self dissatisfaction and he's not man enough to deal with his self esteem problems.  So he makes Karen deal with it, what a loser.

 He is a DUD!!  She is a beautiful woman, there are probably a lot of men that would love to have her and her commitment.  He doesn't deserve her, he is abusive and thinks too much of himself.  A descent women wouldn't have him., I feel sorry for her.
 
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February 20, 2008, 2:43 pm PST

Narcissist

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Karen, I hope you read this message. Get out now. There is no way that man is going to change, and he needs to. I was in a similar situation in my first marriage and I got out luckily before there were kids involved. I had gained weight and my husband told me that I was disgusting and he wanted nothing to do with me. I know how it feels, but not to the extent that you suffer. Your husband, or the man that you married because he certainly does not act like a husband, is a pig. I had so much anger surging through my body as I watched him and heard the way he treated you and your children. You need to get out as soon as possible. If you don't, you will regret it and your children will suffer. Your son will learn this example and do the same thing to his wife, and your daughter will grow up thinking that body image is the only thing that matters and he self esteem will suffer. Get away from that man and do everything that you can to keep him away. I'm sure it will not be easy because he is so controlling that he will probably make it very hard to you legally, but you need to get out. The sooner the better.

Its not about weight. This type of personality picks whatever gives him the upper hand to complain about. I was married to one. I was a size 10. But he picked on me about stupid things. He wanted to make me over with haircuts and hair color, how I dressed, etc.
He is the only important one in a relationship. You are just there for him to pick on. After 6 years, the divorce proceedings were a nightmare. He accused me of all kinds of absurd things. Even his lawyer threatened to quit if he didn't have proof of what he was saying. He was continuing the verbal abuse. Finally it was over but the emotional scars will be there for sometime to come. Karen needs to divorce him and get on with a new life. He will never change. He will find someone else to abuse. My husband was married multlple times and each time it was the wifes fault. He thinks he is Mr. wonderful who just picked the wrong women. Ha!!
 
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February 20, 2008, 2:44 pm PST

02/20 Bully Husband

The woman being abused on today's show claimed she did not want to get divorced because she didn't want to emotionally harm the her children.  From my personal experience this may do more harm to them than divorcing, which is a topic I don't think Dr. Phil (whether he agrees with me or not) touched on enough during the show. 

 

My parents divorced when I was sixteen, after years of major relationship problems.  My mother reacted with anger (often exhibiting it towards me) while my father reacted with indifference.  The tension in my home was so thick you could slice it with a knife, and when I got the opportunity to get out of the middle of it, it was like a vacation. 

 

I think the situation had a couple major effects on me.  The verbal abuse from my mother affected me in ways that Dr. Phil covered in the show.  Another major effect was that I never learned from my father how to interact with women to form an intimate relationship.  That still causes me strife to this day.  After my mom was divorced she eventually got a boyfriend, and they were affectionate towards each other;  this shouldn't be awkward to anyone, yet it was because it wasn't how I was taught to act in a relationship. 

 

Anyways, my point is divorce isn't always the worse thing for the kids; it some cases, like mine, it is the best.  Everything a parent does in front of their child sends a message, and I think the majority of a child's learning comes from non-verbal lessons.  Sometimes parents' relationship help define a child's environment, and I believe environment is very important when it comes to mental health. 

 

If you have a comment on what I have written, please leave a reply, I would love to hear what you have to say.  Give a young gun some wisdom :).

 
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February 20, 2008, 2:45 pm PST

Bully husband

I have been married for 31 yrs. and it has taken me that long to get up thea courage to leave him.  He fits this bully husband to a "T".  He is just much more subtle than this arrogant SOB.  He just didn't get IT. He promised and promised,he cheated and cheated, he ran down my self-esteem,he made fun of my weight.  In my depressed state I allowed him to abuse me verbally and mentally, but not any more.  I look into the "bully's eyes" and he won't change because he doesn't think there is anything wrong with him,it's all her.  SHe needs to get help and build up her esteem and strength, just as my therapist has helped meGood luck, realize you don't need him to be whole and your children don't need to be subjected to it either.  it WILL change them and not for the better. 

 
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February 20, 2008, 2:47 pm PST

02/20 Bully Husband

This woman needs this man about as much as a case of hemorrhoids.  He will beat her down to no self esteem and it's a hard way back up.  Take the kids and run. She doesn't need him.
 
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