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Created on : Thursday, February 14, 2008, 03:51:34 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/20/08) Dr. Phil takes on a couple whose story will shock you. Karen says she’s tired of being degraded and controlled by Rick, her husband of six years. She says he calls her “fat pig” and “fat whore,” criticizes her makeup, makes fat jokes and puts photos of nearly naked women on their computer and exercise machine to motivate her. Karen says if she tries to get close to him, he pushes her away and says, “Don’t even touch me until you’re under 200 pounds.” Rick says when he married Karen, she was within his standards, but now she definitely isn’t. He says he’s just trying to motivate his wife, but says it’s a good thing when they fight physically because it’s good exercise “when the beast wails her arms.” Karen says she puts up with the mental abuse because they have two children, and as crazy as it sounds, she still loves him. Is there a chance to salvage this relationship? Tell us what you think!

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February 20, 2008, 4:30 pm PST

Me Too!

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I was so mad after watching this guy, I decided to go through the trouble of regestering and venting.

 I can not believe he sits there with that smug look on his face and critisizes his wife.

Fat!! He really needs to take a good look at himself. He is certainly no prize.

If he doesn't like the way his wife does housework, he can get off his self-rightous, smug, lazy behind and help out. After all she goes to work too.

If he was my husband, I would rather live under a bridge than with him.

And as for intemency, who would want to be with him anyway. 

Kiss him good-bye girl, you and your kids would be so much better off. You don't want those beautiful children growing up and believing this is normal. Your daughter believing this how a guy treats a woman he loves, and if you have a son, you don't  want him treating his wife this way.

Take care of yourself girl, I don't think he will

I had never registered for this message board either.. and like you, I had to vent.

 

I really hope Karen reads these.

 
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February 20, 2008, 4:30 pm PST

"Staying for the kids"

I don't get it, why would someone even consider "staying for the kids"?  The kids are going to grow up miserable and totally screwed up if this continues.

Karen: Run run run - don't walk - get AWAY from this man.

There was a posting earlier from another woman who said she was staying for the kids (the posts seem to be coming quickly so I didn't go back and look)  She said she didn't have the support of family/friends or resources for help.  I hope she tries to find help - church, a shelter that can guide her even if she isn't ready to leave him, and maybe even approaching her family/friends - she said they weren't supportive, but as Dr. Phil pointed out, abusers tend to isolate their victims - so she might find that they have actually just been waiting for her to say she's had enough - do it for the kids!!!
 
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February 20, 2008, 4:31 pm PST

02/20 Bully Husband

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I was so mad after watching this guy, I decided to go through the trouble of regestering and venting.

 I can not believe he sits there with that smug look on his face and critisizes his wife.

Fat!! He really needs to take a good look at himself. He is certainly no prize.

If he doesn't like the way his wife does housework, he can get off his self-rightous, smug, lazy behind and help out. After all she goes to work too.

If he was my husband, I would rather live under a bridge than with him.

And as for intemency, who would want to be with him anyway. 

Kiss him good-bye girl, you and your kids would be so much better off. You don't want those beautiful children growing up and believing this is normal. Your daughter believing this how a guy treats a woman he loves, and if you have a son, you don't  want him treating his wife this way.

Take care of yourself girl, I don't think he will

I could not have said it better myself!  That is a guy that on a scale of 1 to ten, he is a minus 20.  Hope she leaves that creep. Who is he to critize her.
 
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February 20, 2008, 4:32 pm PST

2/20 7:00 pm show

Dear Dr. Phil

 

I am seathing,  I cant beleive that this man who is a fat pig on his own is spending his wife's life tearing her about mentally to make himself feel better.  I think he honestly hates how big he is enough that he treats her like crap to make himself feel better about who he is.  As far as the affair is concern, he needed that also to make himself feel better because he needed the attention knowing he was fat and disgusting and thought if he could get attention from other women then maybe he was not as bad off as he feels.

 

Lets face it he has badgered her to the point that she feels like she is worthless.   I think if she were to walk away from this *** he would be on his own to clean and take care of the kids and she could still have a good portion of his money.   The kids will see a better life for them as their mother will be happier and healthier.    I would love to have at this idiot and set him straight.   He is sick and needs alot of help.

 

Wendy

 
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February 20, 2008, 4:33 pm PST

Shame on you Dr. Phil!

I have never written in before but I just had to do it this time!

 

I can't believe you were so calm with this guy!  This woman and her two daughters are being ABUSED!  Would you have given her the same advice (at the end of the show, you offered to provide counseling), if she was sitting there next to you with broken bones, bruises and black eyes? 

 

I can't believe that you didn't tell this guy - at the beginning of the show - that he doesn't deserve this beautiful woman or their daughters.  I can't believe that you didn't tell her that she is in danger and that she needs to take those two precious daughters, and her precious, beautiful self out of that situation, kick him to the curb and THEN get counseling for herself and her daughters.  THEY SHOULD NOT BE MARRIED!

 

I'm very concerned for Karen and her daughters.  This man could snap at any moment and become very abusive - physically.  They are in danger and he should be kept away from them.  I speak from experience as I was married to someone just like him.  My husband started with verbal and emotional abuse and eventually became physically abusive, to the point that he tried to kill me. 

 

Please make sure she and her daughters are safe,  that they get the help they need to leave this man and NEVER go back to him. 

 

I have so much more to say but I'll stop here! 

 

I love you Dr. Phil!  But this time I think you were WRONG in the way you handled this situation.

 
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February 20, 2008, 4:33 pm PST

Karen ..... please hear this

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Just from reading the preview..this woman needs to get a backbone and fast!!!!! Quite frankly, based on the descrition of what this guy has done and the put-down comments he makes, I'd have taken the kids and run for the hills a long time ago if I were Karen.  No one deserves to be called names for being overweight, and pointing to other women (attractive and skinny I'm sure!) and asking the kids if they want her for their new Mommy is unconscienable.   And whether he realizes it or not, he is not motivating his wife with his insults. He is making her miserable and she is probably turning to food to fill the huge void. And what message does this send to the kids?  Hope she has some extended family support she can count on, and that she gets herself and the kids out as soon as possible.

Karen...... I have lived with an abuser before....... and my father was an abuser so...... believe me do not stay for the kids sake......... he is already abusing them.......... 

 

You are a beautiful woman and can do much better than him......... even if it is alone............... you would be better off...............

 

Do not allow him to keep treating you this way.......... He is not Prince Charming in anyway and once he sees that you are probably the best thing he had.......... he will be sorry......... What he puts out  he will get back double...........................

 
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February 20, 2008, 4:34 pm PST

BULLY HUSBAND

YA STAY WITH THEM CUZ YOU LOVE THEM...I LIVE IN A MARRIAGE WITH A RETIRED MESS SERGENT AND HE THINKS WE ALL ARE PRIVATES AND THINKS HE IS ALWAYS RIGHT AND WE CAN DO NOTHING RIGHT,,,,
 
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February 20, 2008, 4:36 pm PST

It's not just his fault

Dr. Phil says frequently "do you really think what your fighting about is really the problem?" There is always a deeper issue. Always and I do not in any way think this guy is worth fighting for. I also think she is huge part of the problem and shouldn't have got a pass. She is allowing her daughter To be raised by this fool so she is not alone. Selfish selfish, selfish.

 

But... I am also tired that the "source" of the problem isn't shared between the two.  I have seen on the show many times a man upset because of weight gain after babies, laziness regarding the cleanliness of the home or child care. And Dr. Phil allows the women to pretty much get away with it. Getting fat and staying fat and unattractive because you had children is unacceptable. And is also a reflection on your self worth, dedication for your husband, marriage and affects your children.  

 

I have many friends who after having babies become lazy and make excuses for what it has done to their marriage and sex life.  We all need to be accountable For our actions, and when not being treated with dignity and respect pick your happy butt up and walk away. Anyone can do it, kids, no kids, you can do it.

 

DeeDee

 
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February 20, 2008, 4:37 pm PST

What a incrediable Jerk

Karen,

After watching the show today I was outraged on how long you have put up with this guy. I was in a 15 year marriage with a similar kind of jerk. He would call me fat and ugly as well, thought he was "all that" and even cheated on me (too many to count) didn't find this out till we divorced. He ended up with my daughters best friends' mother and as of today he is currently married to her (3 marriage for him). I lived with low self-esteem for so long,and low self worth but belive me when I say YOU CAN GAIN IT BACK. It will be a tough battle thou but there is a light at the end of the tunnel that you are in. NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO TREAT ANOTHER HUMAN BEING THE WAY YOU ARE TREATED. I feel for your children as well as they are victims in all of this. They (even thou they are small) will remember how there daddy treated there mommy. You might think about some type of counciling for them too. God Bless you and your children hope you find the peace you all need.

 
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February 20, 2008, 4:38 pm PST

02/20 Bully Husband

I have to say, I like how Dr. Phil handled this one. I could see he was pretty mad at one point because he really hates it when men bully women, and rightfully so.
 
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