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Created on : Thursday, February 14, 2008, 03:51:34 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/20/08) Dr. Phil takes on a couple whose story will shock you. Karen says she’s tired of being degraded and controlled by Rick, her husband of six years. She says he calls her “fat pig” and “fat whore,” criticizes her makeup, makes fat jokes and puts photos of nearly naked women on their computer and exercise machine to motivate her. Karen says if she tries to get close to him, he pushes her away and says, “Don’t even touch me until you’re under 200 pounds.” Rick says when he married Karen, she was within his standards, but now she definitely isn’t. He says he’s just trying to motivate his wife, but says it’s a good thing when they fight physically because it’s good exercise “when the beast wails her arms.” Karen says she puts up with the mental abuse because they have two children, and as crazy as it sounds, she still loves him. Is there a chance to salvage this relationship? Tell us what you think!

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February 20, 2008, 4:53 pm PST

Narcissis don't change

Karen - your husband's unhappiness isn't caused by you.  He's not a happy person.  He won't change.  He's comfortable in that role.  Please go to counseling as Dr. Phil suggested & find yourself again.  You & your children will be much better off.  There's a world of happiness out there.  Allow yourself to find it again in yourself - not anyone else.  You're giving your self esteem away & your power.  You just can't see it right now.  God bless you & help you to find the right path.  It takes a while but it's worth your efforts!
 
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February 20, 2008, 4:53 pm PST

everybody is trashing him

with good reason.  I hope they work this out, as a single person, I don't wanna meet him....

 

he made such a fool of himself, and his wife looked like she was too exhausted to even care anymore.  and why would she?  Really sad show to watch. 

Love, Luanne    

 
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February 20, 2008, 4:54 pm PST

today's show 2/20/08

 This is my first time speaking my mind re: a show.  After viewing it, I felt so compelled to tell Karen how sorry I am that she's in such an abusive relationship.  A few words of advice I want you to remember (these are words of advice I'd rec'd when I was in your situation) 1.  He's not your oxygen!!   2. I'd rather be happy and alone than to be treated like that everyday!  3.  People that treat you with disrespect, harsh abusive words, not even wanting to touch you or be near you, DON'T LOVE YOU. 
He even stated "I loved her" 
I totally agree with vicki's message that I just read.  Iwish you the best of luck  - Please take care of yourself.
 
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February 20, 2008, 4:56 pm PST

how I feel

he just pissed me off so bad. I've been a relationship like that and thank god I got out in time. Now i am single and indepentant and have a whole lot of self worth. My prayers are with her and the children
 
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February 20, 2008, 5:06 pm PST

Too bad the idiot doesn't see who we see!

Dr. Phil NAILED it at the end of the show.

 

He summed up the fool in a few words but the guy is simply too stupid to get it. Sadly, his wife is, too. After years of emotional abuse she may never get it either.

 

The real victims in these situtations are the children. They have no choice in these matters. They are being ABUSED and they will take all the baggage into their adult lives and relationships. Been there done that. I am a SURVIVOR and have had a healthy, happy 18-yr-marriage, but my sister has suffered. Most aren't as fortunate as I am.

 

SHAME on the parents for what they are doing to their children and SHAME on famiy, friends and the courts for not stepping in to stop it!

 
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February 20, 2008, 5:07 pm PST

ditto

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Not gay.  My brother is gay.  He would never treat a woman, or any person like that.

 

 

   no sex well we already know hes a liar,,if he did have sex he wouldn;t know what to call it ...cause he didn;t cheat yet we all know he did...there are so many people we have different sexual beliefs kinda like religion,,,,so please people ,,i know everyone think this guy is the bottom of the barrel but make sure you aware of innuendo's what you say make have a double meaning and insult someone else.

 

   

 
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February 20, 2008, 5:10 pm PST

Help Karen

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Not impossible.  What Karen needs is a husband who loves her no matter what.  I know Karen personally and I won't reveal too much, but she is a wonderful wife to this IDIOT!  She does not deserve his treatment.  She's putting up with it just for the kid's sake, which I feel to be for the wrong reason.  If they grow up to witness this treatment throughout their lives, they too will inherit the disease, which is not fair to them.

 

 If there are any single, decent, honest, not necessarilty good looking men out there who needs a nurturing wife, she is the one!  Her kids are so well mannered and adorable, it would be hard not to love them.  Even if not your own.  Believe me, there is some lonely man out there that would appreciate the kind of life that she can give.  She needs a rescue!

Tell Karen to read the messages posted on this website- everyone is supporting her, praying for her, and wanting better for her.  Please tell your friend that the millions of people that saw that show are wishing her the best and that is only possible if she leaves that monster.
 
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February 20, 2008, 5:16 pm PST

Loser

That guy is no prize. He's fat and in my opinion quite ugly. The children are NO reason to stay. Happy successful adults have been raised in a single parent house. You are very pretty and there is no reason for you to stay with someone who clearly doesn't love you.
 
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February 20, 2008, 5:18 pm PST

It's your duty to act, Karen....

KAREN,

 

From a formerly emotionally-abused child who watched my mother verbally abused for years, you MUST find the strength and courage to leave. You owe it to your children. Do not do it for yourself. Do it for your children.

 

My mother was unable to do it for my sister and me. She was worried she would not be able to feed and clothe us. The truth was that she was simply scared to stand on her own. The unknown was more scary thant what she was so used to...verbal abuse and threats of violence. What she never realized was the toll my father's abuse took on us girls. We carried all the baggage with us into our adult lives...unable to trust, unable to bond, unable to sustain relationships for a very long time.

 

I have made it (married 18 years to a great guy), but I am the exception. My sister married a man just like my father. Her marriage is a mess and she's miserable and verbally abused. Thankfully, she was not selfish enough to have her own children (thank God).

 

Karen, you do not have the RIGHT to subject your children to the abuse of your husband, even if it is aimed at you. They are learning how to be parents/women from you. They are learning how to pick husbands from you. They are learning how to handle a marriage from you. They are learning how to be unhappy and stressed and miserable from you. You have no right to teach them those lessons.

 

Pack your bags and go to a nearby shelter. It is better than staying where you are. If you have family, go there. If you have friends, go there. Teach your children that being mentally safe is better than being financially safe. Teach them that respecting yourself is better than putting up with abuse for the sake of having a roof over your head. Teach them that love does not hurt, even verbally.

 

Good luck to you. Pray. Reach out for help. Tell yourself you WILL survive because you WILL. You have to for your children. You can do this. All mothers can for their children and all mothers should for their children. It's the best gift you can give them. You owe them. You are their role model and they depend upon you.

 

God bless you, Karen. You are in my prayers tonight.

 
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February 20, 2008, 5:24 pm PST

Bully husband

What gives this fat overweight know it all the right   to expect anything  from a woman except  the sound of a door  being slamed in his face!!!!! I"ve been married before to a very controlling man but even he wasent stupid enought to push things to the degree you do!!!!!! And mr. know it all i took it fo almost 20 years but guess what? i wised up and found a man who was different and the mr. know it all i left 10 years ago  is alone What does he have to say now------------Your the love of my life i want you to come home   there will never be another woman for me you are the only one!!!! Well buddy he wised up to late he should have wised up long before i got feed up and that  was quite a few years before the door slamed in his face oh it slamed in my heart toward him long before it slammed i n his face !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now im married to a man who respects me , so for the last 10 years hes watched another man take his place with me and raise his childern!!! Like you he never thought that would happen he always told me nobody else would have me, then comes alone a younger  tall good looking man and guess who he wanted and got!!! he got mr. smart know it alls wife that would be me-------- AND HE TREATS ME THE WAY A WOMAN  IS SUPPOSED TO BE TREATED!!SO MR> KNOW IT ALL IS ALONE WHILE I LIVE  THE LIFE WITH SOMEONE ELSE HE COULD HAVE HAD THIS LIFE WITH ME AND IS CHILDERN BUT HE CHOOSE TO BE YOU INSTEAD!!!right and alone!!!!! YOU ARE VERY DESERVING OF THE  SAME FAITE!!!!! I  dont and want or wish it on you it wasent what i wanted for him but you can only push a person so far----------- then it happens dont ever think  theres not someone out there who wouldnt be proud to have your wife and treat her like the lady she is!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU MIGHT BE THE ONE ALONE NOBODY WANTS!! GUESS THAT ONE NEVER CROSSED YOUR MR SMART AND RiGHT MIND !!!I I CAN GIVE YOU A PHONE NUMBER THEN YOU CAN HAVE A BUDDY  AND YOU CAN CRY ON EACH OTHERS SHOULDER!!!!MY husband now had no childern when we met i had 3 and a ex husband like you and nothing else and had been told for years no one else would have me then a tall blue eyed good looking man that all the women were chaseing  wanted me and told my exhusband he was gonna marry me my ex was not pleased and still isent he said the man would leave me when he got to know me but here we are today my ex still begging me to come home  but  my husband is a wonderful man m ex was like you and he will never be in my life as a husband are anything of the sort .I HOPE YOUR WIFE REALIZES THAT ALL MEN ARE NOT LIKE YOU AND SLAMS THAT DOOR AND FINDS THE HAPPINESS THAT IS OUT THERE!!!!!!!!TEN YEARS WITH  MR HANDSOME AND STILL GOING!! A FACT MY EX HUSBAND  STILL CANT EXCEPT AND NEVER WILL!!
 
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