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Topic : 07/16 Bully Husband

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Created on : Thursday, February 14, 2008, 03:51:34 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/20/08) Dr. Phil takes on a couple whose story will shock you. Karen says she’s tired of being degraded and controlled by Rick, her husband of six years. She says he calls her “fat pig” and “fat whore,” criticizes her makeup, makes fat jokes and puts photos of nearly naked women on their computer and exercise machine to motivate her. Karen says if she tries to get close to him, he pushes her away and says, “Don’t even touch me until you’re under 200 pounds.” Rick says when he married Karen, she was within his standards, but now she definitely isn’t. He says he’s just trying to motivate his wife, but says it’s a good thing when they fight physically because it’s good exercise “when the beast wails her arms.” Karen says she puts up with the mental abuse because they have two children, and as crazy as it sounds, she still loves him. Is there a chance to salvage this relationship? Tell us what you think!

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February 20, 2008, 6:22 pm PST

I SO Agree With You.

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Karen take your kids and go as far away from this guy as you can.I recognized myself in you 15 years ago. You are to tired and sooo beaten down you hardly respond anymore.I was like that too. But for my kids sake i took the little bit of energy i had left in me and got out!!!!!. We are doing great now.I hope you will find the courage to get out and make sure he pays child support.If you think your children will be better of if you stay together please think again. The abuse cycle will start again with them and their partners and children because that is what they know and what is familiar to them.I truly hope you get some strenght from all the people that are writing you on this message board. They mean it!

Yes, Karen needs to get the hell out and away from this pig abuser.  She needs a Hero:  to help her NOW to get employed - she feels trapped because she has no money of her own, to escape this terrible man (little boy really). 

 

Karen, if you're reading the boards here, listen to us!.  We know you want OUT of the marriage.  It was written all over your face.  You deserve better - and so do your children.

 

Don't let that poor excuse of a husband threaten or intimidate you to NOT follow-up on Dr. Phil's resources to help you.

 

Just an idea here:  get back in contact with either family or friends, who you can live with until you get on your feet financially.  Get out of the isolation your abuser has placed you in.

 

I'm concerned your abuser will hurt you worse - after being on the Dr. Phil Show.  So take charge and protect you and your children.  If your abuser lays one hand on you - you call 911.  That's what the Police are there for.  Get a restraining order if necessary.  This abuser does NOT love you - he only wants to control and abuse you.  Had enough?.  Yes, I think you have.

 
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February 20, 2008, 6:24 pm PST

02/20 Bully Husband

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You're right. Many a husband will  "gripe" about his wife's excess weight. But, when she tries to lose weight, he will do everything within his power to sabotage her efforts. He's in his "comfort zone" with a fat wife. But, not with a wife who loses weight and becomes attractive to others. Then, he'll have to change. Maybe even lose his own excess weight. Or, risk losing her to someone else.
It sin't even that she's overweight. He just likes to have someone to crap on to make himself feel big. My exhusband always called me "Fat-Ass" at 120 pounds!
 
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February 20, 2008, 6:26 pm PST

IS THERE A 'HERO' OUT THERE FOR KAREN ??

Somebody out there, whoever you are, wherever you are:  help Karen get on her feet financially, so she and her children can live in peace, away from her abuser.

 

Any takers?.  I'm serious here. 

 

Just help her pack up and get the hell out of that house -- and out of harms way.

 
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February 20, 2008, 6:33 pm PST

This Says It All....

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So, SPOT ON!

Hope Karen begins recognizing SOON that she married outside of her Species! 

She just went TOO far down the food chain!!!

 

Remember, there is no shame in accidentially picking up parasitic vermin. The shame is in KEEPING them!!!

 
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February 20, 2008, 6:34 pm PST

Spirit crushed...

I saw the show to-day and my heart goes out to Karen, who showed no tears....no emotion....nothing....

to such abuse in her and her childrens lives. It is easy to see how deeply this man has crushed her soul and spirit.    May her eyes be opened to the reality of her situation, and she may find the courage to move on.  She and her children will surely be in my prayers. 

 
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February 20, 2008, 6:39 pm PST

This guy is so much like the guy next door to us!

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This lady needs to get away from this loser fast. The nerve of the guy knocking his wife's wieght. Hello she had your baby butthead!!!!! Does he honestly think the naked pics of women is helping if anything making the situation worse. The real bad part is he does this in front of their child. That's teaching the child to be self-conisous about her body and she may end up being like him or marrying someone like him.

We had a Yankee family move in next door to us about 9 yrs ago and from the start he began trying to rule the neighborhood and me!  I am about 15 yrs his senior and am a Southern Christian gentleman who enjoys being a good neighbor and having good neighbor s.  He is an engineer who is also an only child.  He has too many toys.  He enjoys making smart,cutting remarks and giving unsolicited advise and critisizes everytone around him.  Ihave heard him screaming at his son like a dog and his wife is a little mouse who is afraid of him because of his violent temper.  He has broken  community covenants by doing auto mechanics continually in his yard and refuses to quit.  I have had all I can take of him and want to move but due to the slow home sales and the drop in home pries, I cannot afford to move. 

 

Does anyone have any suggestions to help us?

 

Thanks

 

Stan

 

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February 20, 2008, 6:40 pm PST

How sad

If Karen needs a place for her and her children, I am offering my home to them. I live in Southern California. My heart goes out to her. I was also in a verbally abusive home years ago and know how she feels. I got out of it and it saved me alot of mental anguish. Karen, don't let this happen anymore. He won't change because he really doesn't think he needs to change.
 
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February 20, 2008, 6:42 pm PST

Oh snap! My father is just like that.

 Yea that women needs to get out, bring the kids and do it all really quick. Trust me I may be young but I know what its like. My father was just like that and if my mother did not get a divorce she honestly would have commited sucide. As for me, no joke, I would have gone postal or at best be in a asylum.  Thank God for getting us out of that situation. On the better side of things, spending alot less time with my father allows us to have a "normal more loving" relationship.
 
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February 20, 2008, 6:52 pm PST

02/20 Bully Husband

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I don't want to sound insensitive to Karen, but she does not need to be rescued,she needs to rescue herself and know her self worth. Her children will grow up thinking that a "knight in shinning armor" will save the day. She has to save herself and her children. They will have a role model to look up to and immulate. Never having to take abuse from any man for any reason.

I do hope Dr. Phil won't offer any help to this horrible man, he is so mean and evil and no, I don't care what his childhood was like. When you grow up, (despite your childhood,) there comes a time to say "I will never live that life again and it changes with me !" How does one not know if they were happy or not in childhood? That is just an excuse to treat others with intense cruelty and get by with it !

Kick his fat ass to the curb,Karen and you and your girls go live a happy life!  You do not need a man to validate your existence. One day, you will meet someone that YOU want to share a life with but only after you know yourself well enough and feel strong in who you are. I'm sure you are a beautiful, loving and caring woman. 

Apparently the other quote to this message was from a friend/aquaintance of Karen's.  In my opinion what Karen needs most right now is not another man to rescue her, she needs to Kick JACKASS to the curb, try to find herself and learn that she is valuable as her own woman, without validation from any man.  When she really learns this thru counseling etc... she won't ever let this happen again.  We can all look back on mistakes that we have made in our lives and yes, they are painful and sometimes humiliating, but wow, can we learn from them.  Unfortunetly this is not just effecting Karen, it is having a profound effect on her children.  Can you believe what this nasty evil man has subjected his children too and unfortunetly Karen has not defended them.  She needs to protect them even if she can't  "wrap her brain" around her own abuse.  Rick is the one that needs extreme counseling and intervention.  He has been the worst kind of Father to his children and I hope that  somehow it is worked out for the children to end up having as little contact with him as possible unless he undergoes a complete brain reconstruction.  Back to my point, Karen needs to find herself (by herself ) before she should look for the next man.  She just needs to know that she is an incredible woman with or without a man to validate her (or in this case belittle her) - then she will have a chance at a healthy relationship.
 
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February 20, 2008, 7:07 pm PST

Been There-Left That

 It's hard to understand Karen's state of mind unless you've truely been there.  I have.  When this show came on I kept thinking it's my life, they're talking about me!!  Dr. Phil showed a screen that listed the side effects of living with a mental/emotional abuser like that creep.  I'm still dealing with what I experienced.  When you're emotionally beat down, over and over and over, getting up gets harder and harder and harder. I stayed for 22 years.  I kept thinking this would all change, he would go back to the guy who chased me with flowers--it didn't change-it escalated.  When I finally fought back he bacame more beligerant and started seeing other women.  I would be curious to know what Karen was like before she met the bully.  For myself, I married my "mother".  She too had been an emotional abuser so I just moved into a situation that I thought was normal.  Yes, it was sick, but until you truely understand where someone started and why they're where they are now--well--Karen, sadly, probably has a bit more to go before she leaves.  But she will, especially now that the real truth has been made public.  Even with all the good information that's available to women on how to stand tall, it takes time.
 
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