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Topic : 03/03 Teens and Sex with Bishop T.D. Jakes

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Should schools be allowed to pass out birth control to students? Should teens be forced to take vows of purity? Dr. Phil and Bishop T.D. Jakes, author of Reposition Yourself, tackle these and other controversial issues. First up, Ed is an abstinence educator who believes the only safe sex for teens is no sex. But 21-year-old Shelby calls Ed’s tactics “dangerous” and says kids need sex education in schools to stop teen pregnancy. Are abstinence-only programs effective? See what Dr. Phil and the Bishop think. Then, Lisette says if she had had access to birth control when she was 12 years old, she wouldn't have had a baby at 13. Is her school to blame for not handing out birth control? What’s right for your child? Plus, is it realistic for teens to live by purity pledges until they get married? A sexually active 14-year-old and an 18-year-old virgin face off on this touchy topic. And, another issue making the headlines is: Should pregnant teens be given maternity leave? Dr. Lisa Masterson, an OB-GYN and member of The Doctors, shares her views, join the discussion and share your views too!

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March 3, 2008, 12:35 pm PST

i think you need to be a parent first

MY TAKE ON ALL OF THIS IS THAT I DONT THINK IT'S UP TO THE SCHOLL'S TO HAND OUT BIRTH CONTROL AT ALL.IT'S UP TO THE PARENTS.I ALSO AGREE WITH DR.PHIL AND T.D. JAKES ABOUT YOU NEED TO TEACH YOUR OWN KIDS ABOUT SEX AND ABOUT WHAT TO DO.IT'S NOT UP TO THE SCHOOL'S.WHAT HAPPENED TO DADS AND MUMS TALKING TO THEIR OWN KIDS ABOUT SEX.AND WHAT TO DO AND NOT TO DO.AND THIS GUY ED.GET A LIFE.OR LEARN HOW TO TEACH KIDS RIGHT.I THINK HIS SCARING KIDS ISN'T GOING TO TEACH THEM ANYTHING.AND THIS LADY THAT SAID IF THE SCHOOL HANDED OUT BIRTH CONTROL SHE WOULD NOT HAVE HAD A BABY IS A CROCK OF.**** IM SORRY.CLOSE YOUR LEGS AND DONT LAY FOR ANYONE AT THE AGE OF 12 OR 13 YEARS OLD.WHATS UP WITH YOU TALKING TO YOUR PARENTS.NO I DONT THINK SCHOOLS ARE RESPONSABLE FOR HANDING OUT BIRTH CONTROL OR THE RIGHT TO HAND IT OUT,THATS UP TO THE PARENTS.

 

     PEOPLE TALK TO YOUR KID'S

     KIDS SHOULD'NT BE HAVING SEX AT THE AGE OF 12-13 YEARS OLD.

     I TOTALLY AGREE WITH DR.PHIL ON THIS AND T.D.JAKES

IT'S UP TO THE PARENTS.SO GET WITH IT PARENTS.I HAVE HAD KIDS AND NONE OF THEM HAD SEX AT 12-13 YEARS OLD.WHATS WRONG WITH THE PARENTS.WELL I'LL TELL YOU THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT SEX OR GIVE THIER KIDS BIRTH CONTROL.DO YOU.WAKE UP PARENTS.TAKE TO YOUR KIDS THEY NEED YOU TOO.AND ONE MORE THING YES I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SEX ED IN SCHOOLS.I THINK KIDS NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT.SO THEY KNOW HOW TO HANDLE IT IF THEY EVER COME ACROSS IT.BECAUSE IF PARENTS AREN'T GOING TO TALK TO THEM SOMEONE NEEDS TO.AND I THINK THE SCHOOLS WILL TEACH THEM RIGHT IF THE PARENTS ARE TOO DAM LAZY TO TALK TO THERE KIDS.

 

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March 3, 2008, 12:37 pm PST

teenagers and sex

I would like to say that I was upset about the lady whos daughter was having sex, I felt like that woman was jumped on because she was open with her daughter.  I would like to thank her for doing what she can what soap box are people standing on  that they think that you can stop it. You can educate all you want ,  you can preach not to do it. But that woman knew that her child was going to do it so she took steps to keep the child from getting pregnant.  I DO NOT want my children having sex,  but im not stupid I know that it is going happen if you go to any school take a poll, over half the kids in high school have had sex or getting ready to do it.  My parents did not talk to me about sex, however I have a 14 year old boy and I have bought him condoms with a long talk about responsbility and consequences.  I hope he makes the right decisions but hopefully if he does make the wrong one he has protection to make sure it doesnt become life changing. As far as giving out birth control NO parents need to take control.  But there are some parents that kids cant talk to, so where do they turn
 
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March 3, 2008, 12:40 pm PST

Are there no morals left in our society?

I am in my 20s and I feel it is sad that people are having sex as early as they are.  I remember back in college I sat at a table with 10 of my friends and I was the ONLY virgin.  What is wrong with that picture?  There seems to be no morals left in our society.  I am a responsible intelligent person and even as such there is no way I would have been able to raise a kid at 13 or deal with the fact that I was going to have to live with AIDS at that age.  With this in mind and b/c I knew it was wrong I never had sex at that age.  It is up to the parents to put morals into their kids!  These kids on the show are soooo clueless.  Schools should never give out birth control to kids under 18 because they are telling them it is ok to do something it is not.  Schools don't let kids cheat on tests b/c it is wrong and therefore they should not say it is ok to have sex either.  Divorce rates are so high already!  KIDS having sex is not helping.  Come on people, lets take back our society.  You wouldn't let your kids cheat in school b/c they are jeopardizing their future therefore don't let them have sex b/c obviously that is going to jeopardize their future even more.  If your kid comes to you and says they are having sex, don't give them birth control...give them a punishment for doing wrong.
 
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March 3, 2008, 12:41 pm PST

03/03 Teens and Sex with Bishop T.D. Jakes

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    Life is tough enough without adding adult decisions before you are one.  If virginity is a choice, it should be a private choice.  Swearing in public to remain a virgin until marriage . . . is tactless and distasteful. 

     You are right.  Fundamentalists do not take this kind of information, well.   They tend to forget that Christ himself said, "Go, and sin no more."  And worse, some of them forget the passage "judge not, least ye be judged."

      My mother dragged my sister into the guidance office with the girls in my class.  She knew that I had ceased to be a virgin when I was 17.  My mother proclaimed this before my classmates.  She also proclaimed that my younger sister was not the "same kind of girl" that I was.  My sister was a sweet, pure little virgin.  She would never do anything wrong.

      And, my mother went on and on and on and on and on.  It was her Christian duty.

 

     

Sex is NOT an adult thing....like it or not kids become sexual beings as KIDS. Kids experience sexual curiosity and arousal AS KIDS.

Sex is NOT an adult issue...if it was kids wouldn't become sexual beings AS KIDS.


 
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March 3, 2008, 12:41 pm PST

Kids need sex ED

they are going to do it weither the know about or not, but the reason the 18yr old  on the show hasn't had sex is because shes not the good looking and no boys are interested in her! and i'm not saying that teens should have sex, because they should wait, but if they are goin to do it give them the tools to have it half -way safe
 
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March 3, 2008, 12:42 pm PST

03/03 Teens and Sex with Bishop T.D. Jakes

I can't belienve some of the values that were preached on this show today. I am 16 and I have been sexually active for one year. My boyfriend (who is 11 months older than me) and I were both virgins when we had sex, but we still made a concerted effort to get tested for STDs. We ended up not getting tested becuase it was extremely expensive at planned parenthood without insurance. I can't belive that Dr. Phil would say that a 14-year-old wouldn't have the ability to understand the consequences of STDs and pregnancy. I can tell you that at 15 I was FULLY aware (thanks to the sex ed at my school) of all the ways one could get pregnant and get STDs. My boyfriend and I waited a full year of dating before having sex. We had met each others parents and we are still in a committed relationship. I am completely happy about my decision. I respect people who want to wait until marriage, but that's just not for me. I think that if I want to be with someone, why not? What bad things could come of it? I'm on birth control, but we still use a condom, and I know that neither of us have any STDs. Honestly, the only regret I have is that I still have not told my mother. I feel like I would be punished for doing something that is perfectly fine. I would love to be able to tell my mother, but she just wouldn't understand and get angry and upset.. What's the use of making her upset when my OB/GYN knows fully about my sex life? I feel like I'm at a point in my life were I can make a decision about what I want to do with MY body. I honestly get offended when people say that all teenagers are ignorant and don't know about pregnancy and STDs. I am FULLY aware of all of these things and I feel that if I am educated and in a committed relationship with someone, what is the problem with having sex? My parents make me feel that I'm doing something dirty when they constantly remind me that I shouldn't be having sex. It's not dirty to be with someone you love. And shouldn't my parents be more understanding and talk to me about my relationship with my boyfriend rather than just telling me, "You better not be having sex!"
 
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March 3, 2008, 12:42 pm PST

03/03 Teens and Sex with Bishop T.D. Jakes

DR.PHIL

please your getting me very upset now. as a baby boomer like you i am sure that you did not abstain from sex.Since when did you become a saint. I agree with you with the other subjects that you have had on your show  but  todays show is really getting me mad with you and your co-host. wake upppppppppp  people it's the 21 st century  SEX ED is good in school but they will have it  whether or not it's taught there or at home ..I'm sure everyone that is saying "WAIT or DO NOT HAVE SEX " have skeletons in their closets .So open your eyes  everyone it's no different from when we were young.

 
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March 3, 2008, 12:45 pm PST

Ugh!

 Although I think sex ed is important (with parental permission), I don't believe that condoms should be given out in schools.  I believe schools are there to educate, not to hand out condoms to my child.  Our children have enough pressure from the media with all the pornographic images they see, they don't need schools promoting sex. This is where parents need to step up to the plate and open up communication between themselves and their children.  Although we, as parents, may tell our chiuldren that abstinence is a better choice, I believe children will go uot there and sometimes cave in to peer pressure.  I think this is where parents need to discuss safe sex. Where are these parents whose children are 13 and pregnant? We have a responsibility to know where our children are and what they are doing.  As they get older and earn a little more freedom, it does get harder, but we still need to keep tabs on our kids and know where they are and what they're doing. Keep sex out of schools and let's teach our kids to be morally upstanding people.
 
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March 3, 2008, 12:46 pm PST

This is crazy...

Sex education should be aloud in schools. When teenagers are getting this education they should also be able to have access to condoms and birth control at schools. All you parents say that giving condoms out is telling your children that it's okay to have sex. It's not. All your saying is, if your going to, then be safe about it. There is nothing wrong with that. All you adults keep saying is "we need to take control over our children". You all have been saying that for years now, and those of you who think that not giving your children birth control or condoms is stopping them from having sex, your wrong. You guys are the ones with the pregnant daugters, and the sons who get those daughters pregnant. Any of you teens that are looking at this, all you have to do is go to any planned parenthood facility or any place like it to get condoms and birth control. The condoms are free, and the birth control is not that expensive. It goes by a scale, so you tell them how much you make and they'll make you pay accordingly. However, usually if you say you don't have a job they will give it for free. You do NOT need your parents permission to get access to either condoms or birth control. Take control of your bodys if your going to have sex. Do not let your parents and the other adults in your community keep you from protecting your bodys. If your going to have sex be safe. Never be embarassed to get either of them either. Personally, I think it would be more embarassing to have to go get a pregnancy test then condoms or birth control. Prevent yourself from getting pregnant or getting diseases and help your friends do the same. Tell them about the planned parenthood places, and everywhere else. YOU know what's best for you body, protect it.
 
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March 3, 2008, 12:47 pm PST

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You can also teach your child enough about sex and love your child enough so that she respects herself enough NOT to want sex. Our children know ALL about sex, but also of the consequences.

 

My teen wants college. She wants a career. She knows what boys wants. She likes boys. But she's been told what they're about. She also knows her mother got HPV from being stupid by having sex before marriage. She knows about sex and the difference between love & committment (marriage) and a young, immature relationship that ends after high school. She knows that everyone wants immediate gradification, but mature people can wait. She knows that anyone who TRULY loves her will respect her enough to wait for her.

 

Will she wait until marriage? Who knows. Only she does. She's gorgeous. She's an Honors student. She's an athelete. She's an independent and kind young woman. She's also blessed to believe in God and have a family who follows His teachings. And most importantly, she's blessed with a strong family and a great dad who's told her to accept no crap from guys. But we surely don't push the idea of HERE'S PROTECTION on her. We don't make it acceptable. She knows it's out there. She also knows the STUPID kids are having sex young!

 

Children are NOT little adults. They need to know about sex and that includes ALL the bad stuff, which is 99% of teenage sex. They are not emotionally nor physically ready for sex as teens. Look at the stats on being used. On lonliness. On disease. On pregnancy. On abortion. On suicide. On how it feel physcially for the female (often not good).

 

Too many people leave GOD out of the picture. It's sad that people call themselves CHRISTIAN but forget all about God's teachings on sex. How convenient for us. Apparently HE knew what he was talking about because if we followed His teachings we wouldn't have disease, abortion, suicide, lonliness, unwanted pregnancy,etc!

No, children are not little adults, unfortunately they have VERY ADULT sexual urges...what poor design huh? To give humans sexual urges when their brains are still so immature.
 
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