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Topic : 03/03 Teens and Sex with Bishop T.D. Jakes

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Should schools be allowed to pass out birth control to students? Should teens be forced to take vows of purity? Dr. Phil and Bishop T.D. Jakes, author of Reposition Yourself, tackle these and other controversial issues. First up, Ed is an abstinence educator who believes the only safe sex for teens is no sex. But 21-year-old Shelby calls Ed’s tactics “dangerous” and says kids need sex education in schools to stop teen pregnancy. Are abstinence-only programs effective? See what Dr. Phil and the Bishop think. Then, Lisette says if she had had access to birth control when she was 12 years old, she wouldn't have had a baby at 13. Is her school to blame for not handing out birth control? What’s right for your child? Plus, is it realistic for teens to live by purity pledges until they get married? A sexually active 14-year-old and an 18-year-old virgin face off on this touchy topic. And, another issue making the headlines is: Should pregnant teens be given maternity leave? Dr. Lisa Masterson, an OB-GYN and member of The Doctors, shares her views, join the discussion and share your views too!

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March 3, 2008, 12:48 pm PST

sex and teens

I am a 21 soon to turn 22 year old student who is about to finish my fourth year od college and my 3rd year of nursing school. I have a little insight on this sitution seeing how I am looking at it as a future health care provider and a young women living and being bombared by the media about sex. In the 5th grade we got the "talk" at school and I remember everyone being like Oh my gosh! In jr high we were presented willl all of our options when it comes to having sex and protection. We even took home electronic babies that would cry and ect. In high school at my church we were tought abstenistance. I was able to make a informed decision. My mom is also a nurse and I was able to go to my mom with any questions that i had. I can't believe that there are people out there who think that you should not be teaching young peopl about all of there option. Why would we wnat to present  these kids with only one side of the story. I was able to make a decision on my own of what i wanted to do. I made it through several years of college and never  had sex. I am sexually active now but I am getting married in a year and I have only ever been wiht the man that i am marrying and the same goes for him. I live in area where teenage pregancy is the highest in my state. We need to be educating these children on their options to help lower therse rates. Who know what will happen is we actually allow or teenagers to grow up and make sure major decision like this own their own. All parents what their child to have a good head on their shoulders and how can they make the decision with out all the information on the table. Most of us look at all sides of the information before we make major life decisions like this.

 
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March 3, 2008, 12:48 pm PST

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Which is safer? Playing Russian roulette with a gun loaded with one bullet or two? Would you recommend either to your child?

 

Now please answer me honestly, if you can...when you chose to have sex at age twelve had you never, ever heard about condoms? Would you have used a condom if you had? If the condom failed and you got pregnant would still be under the illusion that condoms make sex safe. It only takes one condom failure to get pregnant or to get AIDS or other STD's. It could just as easily happen the first time you have sex as any other time because condoms do fail. You cannot predict when that time will be. Neither can your child or any other condom pushers...including Dr. Phil. Youre making false statements about condoms making sex safe to your children who, most likely, will believe you. When the condom fails and they get, or, get someone else pregnant, what is going to be your reaction? Oops, I was wrong. What about if they contract a disease? Oops, I was wrong. That'll really make them feel better.

 

How many murders does one have to commit to be called a murderer? How many godless acts does one need to commit to be called godless? Answer: One!

 

No matter how many times you say it to convince yourself its true, condoms fail and they do not protect 100% of the time. You night get away with playing sexual Russian roulette with condoms for a while, but they will fail you in the end. Buying condoms for a child is contributing to the delinquency of a minor... a criminal act. Moreover, leading a child believe condoms protect them, when in fact they do not, is child abuse. Condoms are not the equivalent of abstinence. Abstinence is guaranteed to be 100% foolproof.

 

How many times can your child have sex with a condom before if fails? Once? Twice? Ten times? Fifty times? You are doing your children a disservice by leading them to believe they are safe sexually if they use a condom.

Yes i agree condoms are not 100 percent safe and i do agree that they fail sometimes. Both of my sisters got pregnant before 16 because of a broken condom  BUT  it is safer than being unprotected. Im not dis agreeing that abstinence  is the best choice because it is but most teens are not going to listen when you tell them not to have sex! Most teens are going to have sex no matter what you say.......like it or not they are and to answer your question when i was 12 i had heard about condoms but did not have the nerve to buy them ..if someone had given them to me i would have been smart ebough to use them. And by your definition everyone is godless because everyone has lied and it is a "godless act" to lie.
 
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March 3, 2008, 12:48 pm PST

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When I was a teen I took birth control and 6 months later had a heart attack,If a school gave my daughter birth control ,without my permission and she had a heart attack from the meds I would sue the pants off of ever one involved and they had better hope she survived that heart attack, or I  would be going to jail for there deaths.
 
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March 3, 2008, 12:50 pm PST

03/03 Teens and Sex with Bishop T.D. Jakes

Sex education needs to start at home with the parents.  It's time for the parents to take responsibilty for their children.  Parents need to be proactive in their kids lifes.  I think schools should require kids to take a sex ed class.  I do not see a problem with handing out birth control either.  Sex ed in schools....that is for the kids with deadbeat parents by the way.    I do not agree with kids getting maturnity leave. Its like telling your child its ok that you got pregnant, a slap on the wrist.  If you don't have time to talk to your kids.......make time.           
 
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March 3, 2008, 12:50 pm PST

A teen's view.

As a sixteen year old, I obviously know all about the conflicts that the US is having with teen pregnancy and sex at too early of an age. It IS a big problem, whether people want to acknowledge it or not. Hell, just this week there was chaos at my school when a girl in my grade (sixteen years old) made a sex tape with her boyfriend BEHIND THE SCHOOL STAIRCASE. Then the tape was sent throughout the school via cellphones and youtube.

 

Honestly? I don't think that teens are smart enough to have sex while fully understanding what the are doing. I'm a virgin and plan to remain that way until I found someone truly love when I'm out of highschool. I'm not religious or something, and I didn't have abstinence drilled into me since I was young. I was simply taught not to have sex, and that was the extent of it. However, I have enough self-worth and self-respect that I know I shouldn't give into peer pressure.

 

I think that's the problem. The girls don't have any self-worth. They think that it's normal to have to do these things, and that they should since others are doing it. It's ridiculous, in my opinion. They should have more respect for themselves than to do something that they can't even fully comprehend at their age.

 

I apologize for typos, this website makes my keyboard skip for some reason.

 
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March 3, 2008, 12:53 pm PST

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In response to Bishop T. D. Jakes comment about having a show about 6, and 7 year olds. I have a 6 and 8 year old who is constantly bringing up sex because of other children in school. I have not decided to have the sex talk with then yet but I plan sometime in the near future because there is no where around it. We as parents and as Christians try to teach our children the best that we know however once our children are away from our care they belong to someone else. I do not agree on birth controll in school because there needs to be a seperation. But I do agree with the doctor that was there that they need to develope a relationship with a doctor because after all children do have their own minds and will make their own decisions. The ultimate is to teach our children and put trust in them they will make the correct choice, but it is also up to us to give them the tools (education they need) about sex and should not be left up to the schools to do it.

 
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March 3, 2008, 12:55 pm PST

The difference is the girls

 In my high school days (1966 to 1970) the boys were just as interested in sex as boys today.  The difference, though, is that the girls were the ones that held the line.  Girls were saying "NO" and holding the line.  Guys who really wanted sex would find one of the few who had a reputation as being "easy" and use them. 

These days girls have lost that value of holding their sexuality as precious and valuable.   That is the difference, and that is the fault of our society, and the women's movement.  The way to improve this problem is to educate the girls that they need to consider their virginity as a valuable thing not  to  be given up to some horny teenage boy, or even a nice teenage boy who will take it by any means that it takes.

Last point:  Giving condoms and infomation may seem to be "the answer" but it ignores one huge fact:  sex feels a whole lot better with the condom in the wrapper.
 
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March 3, 2008, 12:56 pm PST

Education is key

I believe education is key. In this day and age kids know a lot more then we like to give them credit for. They will do it when they feel it is right, and parents may not be aware that it is happening. As in many other things in life, keeping them informed will allow them to make an appropriate decsion. But not only should we teach them about safe sex, but all options when it comes to sexual activity.

I personally believe that sex before marriage is very important. A healthy marriage must include happiness in all areas of the relationship. If one waits until he/she is married, and finds out that sexually he/she is not compatible in that department, I believe that over time resentment grows, and thoughts of straying develop, making for a very unhealthy relationship.

 
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March 3, 2008, 12:57 pm PST

outrageous!

  Children should not be encouraged to have sex,period!  Having condoms and contraceptives available to teens because it gives them the allowance to have sex and think it's ok to have sex just because they have condoms! Just wait! You will not die because you are not having sex. America today has lowered its standards and everyday it lowers exponentialy. Soon there would be no standards to go by and that is not good at all.

     It's sad to watch a 14 year old saying that she became sexually active at 13. Just because she's using condoms doesnt make it alright at all!  Even though she is mature,she shouldnt be having sex. I'm dissapointed with her mother. She is only 13 and disgusting. Yes,13 year olds in my country r married and it's their custom. But they are married,not single.

    I dint have sex until I was 21. And that was a year ago... I wasnt taught sex ed. in secondary school and that didnt make me ignorant about sex. I know what sex is  and what sex is for... Not one day did I decide to have sex because I knew the consequences...Abstinence people!!

   

 

   

 
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March 3, 2008, 12:57 pm PST

U.S. never gets it right

I am watching Dr Phil and I want to tell all of these people to wake up. The only one speaking any sense is the female OB/GYN. She is right that the US has the highest rates of unwed/teenage pregnancy and STDs than any other developed country. And it isn't b/c US teens are having more sex. They are having sex at the same rates but they arn't using birth control like their teen counterparts in Europe. Why you ask? Because the countries in Europe responded to the problem of teenage pregnancy like they would any other PUBLIC HEALTH problem...they adapted huge media campaigns about using birth control and they have an "open" dialogue about sex. And their rates dropped. Here, sex is framed as a moral issue and therefore everyone just fights about it and the teens are the ones who are losing out. Of course teens should be urged to prolong sexual behavior, but we still need to educate them about their bodies and what they can do to protect themselves.
 
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