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Topic : 03/03 Teens and Sex with Bishop T.D. Jakes

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Should schools be allowed to pass out birth control to students? Should teens be forced to take vows of purity? Dr. Phil and Bishop T.D. Jakes, author of Reposition Yourself, tackle these and other controversial issues. First up, Ed is an abstinence educator who believes the only safe sex for teens is no sex. But 21-year-old Shelby calls Ed’s tactics “dangerous” and says kids need sex education in schools to stop teen pregnancy. Are abstinence-only programs effective? See what Dr. Phil and the Bishop think. Then, Lisette says if she had had access to birth control when she was 12 years old, she wouldn't have had a baby at 13. Is her school to blame for not handing out birth control? What’s right for your child? Plus, is it realistic for teens to live by purity pledges until they get married? A sexually active 14-year-old and an 18-year-old virgin face off on this touchy topic. And, another issue making the headlines is: Should pregnant teens be given maternity leave? Dr. Lisa Masterson, an OB-GYN and member of The Doctors, shares her views, join the discussion and share your views too!

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March 3, 2008, 1:22 pm PST

Parents,parents,parents

My parents thought once I reached 14 they could go back to work fulltime because I was old enough to be alone...they went to work 3-11pm...My only supervision was my own...Well I did alot of stuff I should have never been allowed to do..All I'm saying is don't think you can go back to work just because your children are old enough to be on their own,get different schedules,have a grandparent stay w/ them,get them involved in extra after school activities....I wish my parents had...
 
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March 3, 2008, 1:22 pm PST

These people are driving me crazy!

This is idealism at it's best, there is NO WAY kids are not going to have sex, espeically if society starts saying it's wrong. Sex & safe sex education is absoultely nescessary in this world. Just because a kid has sex doesn't mean they're going to be called a slut, this is so ridiculous and outdated. I'm ready to change the channel...
 
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March 3, 2008, 1:23 pm PST

03/03 Teens and Sex with Bishop T.D. Jakes

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I am a 17 year old mother of an 8 month old baby girl. My boyfriend and I are engaged. My boyfriend and I decided to have sex before we were married; although I was on birth control my daughter was still conceived. I am very mad about the discussion over teenage maternity leave. I was lucky enough to give birth in the summer months so this didn't apply to me. I believe that a mother is a mother no matter what age. I am continuing my high school education through Cyber School, I will graduate on time. I was told about sex and what could happen around age 13. I got on birth control at age 14 and still got pregnant. My boyfriend and I are very happy with our life and daughter. I don't feel that people should look down on teen parents. I feel that some teen mothers are more responsible than a 30 year old married mother. Teaching abstinence is not going to stop teens from having sex. Give them the advise and knowledge to make a responsible decision even if it is not what you would choose for them.

I agree with you completely. I have birth to my son in January of 2005. I was very lucky that my school allowed my to go on maternity leave. They allowed me 2 weeks before I had my son and 5 weeks after I had him. I believe that a mother needs the time to bond with her baby. Just because society looks down on teen mothers doesn't mean they need to make the baby suffer by not having enough time to bond with its mother.
 
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March 3, 2008, 1:23 pm PST

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It's wrong to keep people ignorant of their own bodies.  Sex ed is a must, but also keep that ongoing talk and expand on it as they grow.  Teens are going to have sex, it's pretty much a rule.  I'd like to think that knowledge is protection.  Doesn't the pastor want kids to be protected?  HIV/AIDS, Hepatitis, and Syphilis are 10x more horrible than premarital sex.   It's preventable if they have the info- and there is a myriad of it now- and info is control, control is empowerment. 

 

I don't think the stigmatization of virginity is fair, either.  You can focus sexual energy into immense productivity, which can help achieve your goals.   But it should be a personal, private, informed choice, not something you swear to in public.  It can be a beautiful, spiritual thing if it's kept a personal matter, IMO.  Don't share your sex status with a fundamentalist, NEVER a good idea....

Teen sex wouldnt be the rule if you didn't just hand them birth control. Its one thing to educate them and anouther to pass out birthcontrol to children so the can have sex. Before birth control was passed out in schools there were a few girls that had sex and had babies before they married. Now that the schools have been pass it out  about half the girls here are unwed mothers and a lot of there children have different fathers.

 

  There are two different things with this topic. one rather or not schools should pass out birthcontrol. The other is to swear in public that you will remain a virgin.  I do not believe school should pass it out but I also dont believer they should have students stand up in public and swear either.  

 
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March 3, 2008, 1:24 pm PST

Human Chemistry did not change simply because our society did

Human chemistry and sexuality didn't change age simply because the religious fanatics of our society did.  I am a 30 year veteran of the medical industry and we would not have the disease and teen pregnancies we see today if communication was open and honest.  As a parent of two responsible, and sexually active older teens, ,my way works.....communication, communication, communication starting at a very young age.  Where you found the idiot on stage, I have no idea but teens are NOT contracting disease because of non-intercoursal sex!!!!  HE needs an education.  Teens are also not nessisarily permiscuous if they are active.  Both of my kids waited until they found someone to have a dedicated, loving realationship.  Europeans sit back and shake their heads at us Americans.  We have a totally open society and are the most sexually uptight people in the world!  I don't want school systems teaching sex because they won't teach it the way I feel it should be taught.  However, there are so many parents not discussing it, they need to learn the facts somewhere.  But Lord help us all if the 'teacher' on stage is the only option.  And to the Reverend....'children do not have sex'  HELLO????????????  Our parents, grandparents and greatgrandparents and  great great, etc got married at 13!!!!!!  There is a reason for that.  It's called chemistry.....HUMAN CHEMISTRY!  YOU CAN NOT CHANGE IT!  This IS God's way.  Now, do I think people should still be getting married as teens.....no, most definitely not.  But that does not mean they can't learn about their sexuality in a real and safe manner.  Wake up.  Teaching abstinance has not solved the growing problems of STD's and teen pregnancies.  It's long past time for open and honest communication.
 
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March 3, 2008, 1:24 pm PST

Pregnant Teens need support

I totally agree with promoting abstinence but also believe in educating kids about places such as Planned Parenthood where they can go anonymously.  I don’t believe kids make the decision to have sex because they have protection.  From my own experience, I believe very little thought goes into that decision. 

My concern about today’s show was some of the attitudes towards these young girls after they became pregnant.  As my Dad used to say, “You can’t lock the barn after the horse is stolen.”  That is not the time to correct or punish by keeping them out of school or making them return too soon.  I gave birth to my first child when I was 16.  I was scared, embarrassed and humiliated.   I didn’t know which way to turn.  I needed advice, not judgment.  I quit school and stayed with my baby’s father because I didn’t know what else to do. 

At the age of 20 I was divorced with 3 children.  I took a GED and spent 9 years earning a bachelor’s degree.  I am proud to say that those 3 girls now have bachelor’s degrees and are happy, well-rounded young ladies.  Even though we came through this pretty well, many do not.  I whole-heartedly believe that the best thing to do is educate and support these girls and help them into adulthood.  Judging them only tears down their self esteem.  Keep in mind they are now mothers and we need them to be mentally, spiritually and financially healthy to raise the next generation.

 

 
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March 3, 2008, 1:25 pm PST

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I just watched the debate show about teens and sex. I agree with all sides of everyone to a point. I had sex for the first time when I was 14 and then ended up pregnant when I was 16 (that I had given up for adoption). My parent's never talked to me about sex and I didn't feel comfy enough to talk to them about it. Now I am a single mom of 2 girls ages 9 and 7. My 9 yr old just asked me 2 weeks ago how a baby gets there? They know where a baby comes from and how a baby is born, but not how a baby gets there. I had to explain it to her as best as I could based on the age she is. I really don't want my girls to have sex before marriage, but if they are going to I would rather them know about birth control and I would put them on it. We can't lock our kids in a room until their married, but what we can do is make them know about sex. I know that for parent's it's a touchy subject, but we have to put our pride aside for our kids to be able to talk to us about it. I will tell my kids that it's best to wait, but I also can't stop them if they decided to have sex. Being a parent isn't easy, but neither is being a teen. If I could do it over and still have the kids that I have I would have waited, but I can't change the past so I will talk and be open with my kids even how uncomfy it may be. Ok that's my venting.
What part of sex is something that a 9 year old can't understand? I think it's all pretty much understandable...By the time my child is 9 she will know pretty much everything about sex. Why? Because she'll be going through puberty only 2 years from then!

My daughter already has learned about sperm and eggs and how the different body parts fit together like a puzzle...and she's 3!
 
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March 3, 2008, 1:26 pm PST

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I believe that purity is the way to go, if I had the chance to do it all over again I would wait in a heart beat. I believe that sex is great after marriage but until you are married you should wait. Find other things that can keep your attention such as sports or whatever. No man can ever be respectful of a woman and vice versa when they are having sex before marriage. I believe that when you get married it's greater later.
 
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March 3, 2008, 1:28 pm PST

It starts at home!!!

I believe that morals should be put into a child's life while they are young, by their parent or guardian. If a child is taught not to have sex they are less likely to. The information learned in a classroom will not make them want to go and engage in sexual activities. It would just be education. Also, giving condoms will not be an Okay for sex. Giving a teenager a condom is not telling them its Okay it's telling them to be safe. When I was in high school and received a condom I gave it to someone I knew was sexually active, because I knew I did not need it. Giving a condom is not going to make them say, "Let's go try it!!!" And I think that that is ridiculous to say. If children are being taught the right things at home no class will change their morals.

Overall, I think we should give young people more credit than we do. They all are not as easily influenced as we may believe.

 
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March 3, 2008, 1:29 pm PST

Dr. Phil's sex debate

Well when I was in school, I had a sex education class...my teacher taught every form of birth control including abstinence.  Theres no reason a school cannot teach both...whether some people like it or not, teens are boud to have sex...so why not inform teenagers about all sides to having sex including consequences, birth control, and abstinence.  I am a teen mother and I think it is even rediculous to not offer maternity leave to student mothers.  Maybe people out there arent happy about children having children but dont penalize someone for having a baby "too young" by societies opinion.  Just like a grown woman needs time to heal so doesnt teenage girls, even more so when it comes to hormones.  I dont think that schools should hand out birth control to students, but i do think maybe they should hand out resources to local planned parenthoods that do hand out birth control.  If you really think teens are going to talk to their parents about sex, your sadly mistaken...some teens may but most dont...its just all around an uncomfortable situation.  Like i said I am a teen mother, I do not regret having a baby and i do not live off of my mother or father.  Just because a teen has a baby doesnt mean their life has ended... i do not recommend getting pregnant before finishing high school because my life could have been alot farther than it is now but at the same time i would t change my life for anything.   Anyhow my point is this...if teenagers are going to have sex, why not educate all sides, so at least they will be a bit safer.  Like the obgyn said, everyone is their own person, it is hard to just teach abtinence because not everyone will listen...actually the majority will not listen.  telling teenagers to not have sex is going to push them to sex...thts just the way it is.  addressing every issue is the best solution for everyone...because there is no way to make teens stop having sex all together. 
 
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