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Topic : 03/03 Teens and Sex with Bishop T.D. Jakes

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Should schools be allowed to pass out birth control to students? Should teens be forced to take vows of purity? Dr. Phil and Bishop T.D. Jakes, author of Reposition Yourself, tackle these and other controversial issues. First up, Ed is an abstinence educator who believes the only safe sex for teens is no sex. But 21-year-old Shelby calls Ed’s tactics “dangerous” and says kids need sex education in schools to stop teen pregnancy. Are abstinence-only programs effective? See what Dr. Phil and the Bishop think. Then, Lisette says if she had had access to birth control when she was 12 years old, she wouldn't have had a baby at 13. Is her school to blame for not handing out birth control? What’s right for your child? Plus, is it realistic for teens to live by purity pledges until they get married? A sexually active 14-year-old and an 18-year-old virgin face off on this touchy topic. And, another issue making the headlines is: Should pregnant teens be given maternity leave? Dr. Lisa Masterson, an OB-GYN and member of The Doctors, shares her views, join the discussion and share your views too!

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March 3, 2008, 1:29 pm PST

03/03 Teens and Sex with Bishop T.D. Jakes

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 By all means, sex education should be taught to every young person: but at home, not in school.  Parents can provide the support and example that their young people will need to follow through on standards expected at home.

Sex education was offered at my high school, by parental consent.  I chose not to participate.  I was already being taught at home and at my place of worship; not only about the logistics of sex, but personal responsibility to myself and the person with whom I chose to be intimate with.  Sex is an adult activity.  Its consequences are long ranging and will affect how a person deals with the opposite sex and views him/her self for the rest of their lives.  I would not trust this subject to the school, any more than I would expect them to teach my child how to live by moral principles in a world that changes its values with the season.

The mother of the fourteen year old, who felt she was smart and responsible enough to engage in sex, is living in a dream.  When her daughter comes home pregnant, carrying an STD, or emotionally scarred by some immature partner, she will have to share in the blame for what is to come. 

Didn't she watch the issues with the first Dr. Phil family ?  All the angst with the older daughter getting pregnant and deciding to keep the baby, and deciding to limit the father's involvement with the baby, and wanting to get back to sexual activity again, should have given her a clue that is is not a learn-as-you-go activity.
So, what about this kids who have parents who do not care to teach their kids ANYTHING? Should we as a society suffer from THEIR ignorance simply because people like you have impossible ideals?

Public school is the perfect place to teach sex education. We are talking about body parts and their functions and human reproduction and disease....of COURSE this should be taught in school.

Why should we slam shut education just because it gets too close to the "naughty" area? We can teach our kids about how the brain or heart works, but not the uterus and testicles? How does that make ANY sense?
 
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March 3, 2008, 1:30 pm PST

03/03 Teens and Sex with Bishop T.D. Jakes

Our country needs some REAL men who are willing to be fathers. My dad was comfortable enough with his own sexuality to sit down and explain things in detail. As a woman, I had no idea how a man thought but my father took the time to share how he was as a young man and that's where I got my sex ed. When I was in school, they didn't teach sex ed. As a parent, it is mine and my husbands job to teach our children about the important things in life. My husband's parents did not talk to him about sex and the consequences and all five of the children in his family were sexually active. On the other hand, my parents were very open and honest with myself and my siblings and none of us where sexually active before marriage. I am 26 now, married and I have 2 daughters. I have an amazing relationship with my husband and the first time we had sex was on our honeymoon. On our wedding day I was able to give him ALL of my.  I would not change one thing and I will raise my daughters the same way. They will respect their selves and their bodies. They will also know how guys think because their father is going to very involved in also teaching them. It's not a one time talk, it's a lifetime teaching. Passing out birth control does not prevent STDs. Getting pregnant is not the end of the world but it will turn your world upside down. The sad thing is, these kids might have STDs and not know it because a lot of them don't show up until years down the road. And then when they find out, they are married and want to have kids but can't because they slept around when they were too young to make wise decisions. Condems and birth control are not the issue, relationships are the issue. Parents aren't taking the time with their children to instill morals and values.

 
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March 3, 2008, 1:31 pm PST

teen sex

Hello, i was watching ths show and I am a teenageer, I'm turning 18 in 2 months.

I'm not sexually active and i do have a boyfriend.

 

Parents. There is only so much you can do to help prevent your child from having sex. Yes educate them and have them understand what really is out there. But even doing this does not guarentee your child from not having sex. If your child does happen to be sexually active you have to put your trust in them, and trust that they know what is going on etc.

 

And also on the show, parents say they have the right to know if their teen is sexually active and want birth control. I disagree completely with that. It is absolutely none of the parents business if their teen is having sex. It's their decsion and all you have to do is have faith in them. You cannot control them all the time. I don't tell my parents alot of things because it really is none of their business. Its my privacy and my right to keep it private trumps your right of wanting to know, no matter how many of you disagree with that. Yes my parents have expectations for me, but am i going to follow them? More than likely not. If i feel that I am ready for somthing i will do it, but not before unerstanding the consequnces.

 

And another thing. Getting around to talking about sex. Personally i hate it when my parents start tallking about sex to me because they get all nervous and it makes it tense for me aswell. I talk to friends about sex. We talk about EVERYTHING and we dont get embarassed because we no we're not going to get judged or pushed or anything. I think parents might need a class "how to talk to your teen about sex" lol (it was a joke)

 

All you can do is parents is get them educated and if you know they are sexually active talk about things. All i can say is this is the world we live in and all we have to do is try our best to keep grounded.

 

and to all the parents that are reading this, i am not your typical teenager :)

I think this is a great topic to discuss about but for teenagers. Dr.Phil if you ever had a teen sex forum again i'd gladly join.  I like talking to other teens about sex because as hard as it is to believe we do have brains :)

 
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March 3, 2008, 1:32 pm PST

pre martial sex

being a baby boomer, i am well aware of what having sex outside marriage can do to the emotional wellbeing of a young girl.  with that in mind, i raised my children to the pros and cons of having a sexual relationship.  i didn't hand out condoms or put my daughter on birth control.  instead my husband and i gave them so much love and validation that there wasn't a need to feel love outside the home.  with that said, i can say that two of my three adult chidren have maintained their vow of chasity without regrets.  my oldest son gave into temptation and will tell you that it is the one thing that he wishes he had never done.  sex isn't just about the body but effects the heart and soul of a person.  maybe we should raise our children to be better then their parents.  rise above the rest of society because we were not created in the image of an unbridled animal but in the image of God.
 
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March 3, 2008, 1:32 pm PST

Situation in Denmark

I live in Denmark. Here the average age of the mother, when she is giving birth to the first child is 29. It is too old to maintain our present population.

 

Teenage pregnancies are rare - very rare. We have a TV-show called "young mothers" where the daily life of mothers age 16-22 are shown.

 

How did we manage to produce a strategy, which can eliminate our nation in some 70 years if we don't change path?

 

We started to give education to children before there was any chance for them to start with sex. That means age 10!

 

They need to know at that age because when they are 12 they are turned loose from after-school care and then it is just a matter of time before they face all the dangers of a modern society head on.

 

It is a packet deal. Alcohol is a factor. Luckily the old tradition of introduce alcohol to the youth at their confirmation (age 13-14) means that parents are aware and responsible parents control the "bag-parties" and many join the night owls which is a voluntary movement of parents wearing yellow jackets, who walks the streets  nights every weekend. (A parent do one walk every 3 or 4 month).

 

Information and accept that teenagers are humans with both love and sorrows in their life are our strategy and it works!!

 

 
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March 3, 2008, 1:32 pm PST

03/03 Teens and Sex with Bishop T.D. Jakes

Quote From: kinser17

Just so you know you can still get pregnant with a condom.  I was 24, and my husband and I were almost ready to start a family--almost.  We both have college degrees and know how to use condom correctly.  Used condoms %100 of the time.  However, we ended up having a baby.  So, don't bank on the condom!!!  Love my baby girl, glad that we both had good jobs and were able to support this little surprise.   Abstinence is the only way to not contract STDs and to not get pregnant.  You have to live with the consequences for the rest of your life!!
And seat-belts don't work 100% of the time either.

Abstaining from getting in a car is the ONLY way to insure you won't get injured or die in a car wreck.
 
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March 3, 2008, 1:33 pm PST

Prevention

This is how they address this in Europe

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3FzgvXdQ9vE

 
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March 3, 2008, 1:34 pm PST

I agree with YOU!!

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 You scare me. I support Planned Parenthood, I support knowledge about consequences and stds and the whole thing. But you discuss specific sexual acts with other people's children?? I hope I'm reading this wrong. You buy condoms for other parents' children? How dare you. And then, after all this "truth," you lie to your daughter about how a mom can tell if she's had sex or not?? What a hypocrite. I hope you learn soon to butt out. I hope my children never meet you and actually, it's good that I read this I can start teaching them about parents who overstep their bounds. If anyone dared talk to them about specific sexual acts, I would file charges. I'm disgusted that you seem to be proud of this awful behavior.
Thank you for writing what I was thinking!   I think this mom is really crossing the lines of decency here. Scary indeed!  This is why we need to not only know the kids our kids are hanging out with, but the parents as well.
 
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March 3, 2008, 1:34 pm PST

03/03 Teens and Sex with Bishop T.D. Jakes

Quote From: t_notto8

The daughter of a former Planned Parenthood employee is now the mother of a son ..pregnant on  high school graduation day .  A beautiful 20 year old has herpes cause her boyfriend didn't wear a condom.  The sores were visible....she had sex  with him anyway.  These ladies had the information  and full access to protection but were emotionally unable to say "no."  Their need for emotional 'connection' overode their reasoning. and logic.

 

 

Bishop Jakes is absolutely right...parents have the most important role to guide their teens and their failure resulted in the  sad, negative and permanent consequences of premature sex.

 

than that girl was not very smart then? She saw the sores, she did it anyway, she was STUPID.

THose are the teens that need to be in shackles *joke*

 
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March 3, 2008, 1:35 pm PST

03/03 Teens and Sex with Bishop T.D. Jakes

Quote From: applppie

My Mother did not teach me about sex and I dint run off to have sex  just because I wasnt taught! thats not an excuse to have sex!  Yes,many teens are having sex. They do because they want to,they know what the consequenses are (unless they are blind,deaf,dumb and/or illiterate).  So kids shouldnt blame their mothers. Although parents should talk to their children about this.

 Note that I'm not trying to preach here but you will not die if you have sex. But you will go to to hell if you do fornicate and/or adulterate.

with that said,I think it goes back to peer presure. If you have are strng willed and you will not fall into peer pressure but if you decide to have sex at 13 because your bf of 16 wants to  then you are stupid(sorry for being harsh here) because if he really does love you,he wouldnt be asking you to do it. On the other hand,if you decide on your own to do it,then you should accept all the concequences that goes with it. And do not blame anyone else if you get preggers or something.

Well...why not just let kids drive at 12 or smoke or drink at any age?

Are you serious? Parents ARE responsible for their kids....and that includes their ignorance.

Being a parent means you are responsible for your child. People are not BORN with knowledge on sex! They need to learn it from responsible adults.
 
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